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So the finished Rooney has more goals than Lukaku😅
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Same number of goals but I get your point. But Lukaku does way more for the team than Roooney can at this point. He cannot spear head a team. I believe he is playing as a right forward for Everton.

I think it was time for us to move on from Wayne because he is nowhere near the player he once was but the united fans who say s**t like, he is a championship level player now are idiots. We just love to hate on our players.
I'd say good enough for Everton, but not good enough for United. The role behind the striker works better for him. He's a great finisher so he can still get in the box and do his thing, but the other strong point of his game is playing in final balls with great accuracy. Just look at his ball over the top to Calvert-Lewin (idk if sp. is right) but it was just on a dime from a very unexpected position and boom, he gets his team level in a huge derby match.
back in 2008, Rooney was a big thing, even if Ronaldo was winning Ballond'or, Rooney was not far from ronaldo' level.

Years later Ronaldo has won his 5th ballon d'or and led his country to the Euro's while Rooney was being benched by grandpa Zlatan and getting eliminated in the Euros by Iceland lol
Even though Ronaldo is unbelievably talented, most of it is due to hardwork,respecting his body etc.Ronaldo has never looked out of shape, a bit overweight etc.

Considering his initial potential, it feels like Rooney did not exploit his talent to its maximum,probably why fans were upset with him,especially with the national team, cause they always expected more from him, after all he is only 32
I don't think it's right to say he didn't full fill his potential. He is our all time great scorer and one of the best players I have ever seen. He has won every trophy in European club competition. But his fitness has been poor and has caught up with him. He has not been the same since I would say the year RVP was brought in.
Some of it's genetics, not just down to hard work. Rooney worked damn hard on regrowing his hair.
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@Yaldho I was just comparing the evolution of their careers,after winning his 2nd ballon d'or Ronaldo was talking about how he wanted to keep improving which is what he did,whereas Rooney's career went the opposite way.

Rooney's fitness problem were sign of laziness, when he was only 30,without any major injury in his career.

Its like Ronaldhinho,eventhough he won everything, you know he could have prolonged his career and done a whole lot better.

Rooney could have had an even bigger legacy,with United and especially with the national team.
I dont know what you are talking about, Rooney has won more medals than many clubs do in 50 years. He has been single handedly winning his teams games since he was a 16 year old kid way before Ronaldo even came onto the scene. And ended up being the all time top goal scorer for man utd.
England national team is a joke, thats not his fault alone.

Ronaldo is a physical specimen and not all players can keep up with that level especially in the EPL.
Biggest problem Rooney faced was his game depended on pace and after 2009-10 he was not the paciest striker around. And many managers came and went who didnt know how to play him, Moyes and LvG tried converting him into a midfielder and thats why his goals dried up too
He is still good, you can't question his commitment and work rate because he gives it all, he is an EPL legend, CR7 is one of a kind, pretty harsh to compare them both, CR7 is a goal scoring monster
Rooney by no means had a bad career but a lot of people expected Rooney be the same or better as Messi/Ronaldo at there peak. Rooney would have broken Shearers record already if he wasnt force out of position so many times.

When he plays he gives 100% but outside of football he probably having 10 big macs or something

What Rooney achieved being a English player is remarkable. I follow lot of different sports and its very easy to notice how talented English players win something become co*ky and derail career.

4th richest club in England with the 3rd highest paid manager and no CL games to worry about can only manage seventh place.
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it aint just like that bruv
Man City are the perfect version of what we've always wanted to become. Possession-based attacking football but their team is so much more technically gifted than our boys. How do you get that? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
no, better coaching and technically gifted players, ike the ones we got rid of (rosicky, fab) to the mediocre we think are gifted , Xhaka, ramsey) and a mediocre coach knickin a livin off past glory( poorest manager in the epl)

home truth
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Arsenals midfield was always a joy to watch. That game against Barcelona in like 2011 where da berg as and wilshere and Alex song played equal to xavi iniesta and busquests is one of my favorite matches. The money thing is I guess correct but it's more coaching and the how city have bought. Mostly every player has a purpose that is needed and can fit into the system. I think arsenals transfer policy has gotten in its own way. Lacazette is a very good start at getting things back on track. Wasting Sanchez and soul with players like webeck and giroud for years was poor.
Indeed our A team has been a disgrace...

Memento rosicky was finished, cesc wanted out.

Our problem is mostly the owners. If they were interested in signing the best players around consistently things would be very different.
Arsenal need a great central midfield player. Arsenal is a possession based team with out a proper central midfielder, which is really odd. Arsenal feels like a counter attacking team that plays possession football. There is no one in the middle who dictates a game or can control it. Carzola was that player. Now you guys need to find another one in that mold if you want to keep playing the same way.

Let's say, give this team to Klopp and the last thing he will want to do is boss possession. He will be trying to win the ball back as fast as possible and get it up to players like Ozil, Sanchez and Laca.
Still wont bench Alexis? what dogshiit performance by him.. Same goes for Giroud.. Those two probably the most predictable players in the league. Just sell Alexis in January, if it at all possible right now, not sure who would buy him with the form he is in right now. Dont think City will even take him for free

The only positive from the game, is Jack is back! The best player on the field by a mile. Ozil played very well as well
I don't think City want him. Why would we tbh? Someone will be left unhappy in our camp and our guys have been doing so well, Pep won't take the chance to rock the boat just to sign Sanchez.

Honestly, Mahrez should have been signed last summer along with Laca. Not point in keeping Sanchez.
You say that till he finds his form then it's a different story. We have no choice but to cross our fingers and hope Alexis comes good again. Who can we start ahead of him Welbeck?? Walcott?? There is no choice but to keep playing him
Anyone but him... Bring the power of Nelson.. Yes I would prefer Welbeck over Alexis right now..
If you want to play Giroud at CF, then our most in-form choice to play LW ahead of sanchez would be LACAZETTE. Hands down. I know he hasn't scored since United, but you can see how sharp and hungry he is evertime he's on the field. And his link-up, ball retention, discipline and work rate is top notch. Also he has been grossly under-utilized so far this season. He's only playing like 70mins a week, rarely gets minutes during international breaks, on top of the two EPL games he sat out (Pool, City). Only 14 starts in 4 months, and only 70mins per game. PLEASE FUKCING UTILIZE HIM WENGER!
Filsuf I agree, but i like Lacazette as CF.. or he can play them two up front
Maybe for the 1st team in my 6/7 year on Footy i have seen Arsenal forum with "0" comments before and after a PL game...Did you guys forget about the game today ?lol
There's a general lack of enthusiasm around here. And people don't even get frustrated anymore, just a plain acceptance of the fact that nothing is going to change until the manager decides to leave.

It's like Liverpool from a few seasons ago where fans would rather discuss the team from 10 years before than the current one.

The only hope is that somewhere in the future a new manager with some fresh ideas comes in and sth finally changes.
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wasn't televised for me and I have no desire to try through bs streams. This team just doesn't have anything to play for right now and lacks motivation throughout.
I don't really watch this team much lately. City more entertaining and stress free. When Wenger leaves and the house gets cleaned I'll be interested.
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As much as I want to stop watching them, still come back to watch them..
even the mods that are protecting AW left, probably tired of defending him. but always the blame lies on fans who wants him out.
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N'Zonzi happening?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-agree-353million-deal-sevilla-11679222
Highly doubt it.
This ramsey hamstring has been a long time coming. The guy never knows when to rest and Wenger keeps starting him every chance he gets. Hopefully wilshere will give us a better balance
Dafuq? He's only been playing once a week. He's far far from being overplayed
Arteta got a bottle thrown at him during the tunnel bust up post manchester derby. Personally, I think it was Fergie getting his revenge at Arsenal for the pizza thrown at him.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42306141
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Why would Arteta get the bottle when it was Fabregas who threw the pizza?
Expand your thinking a bit. Arteta is a former arsenal captain. Pizzagate happened with arsenal... getting back at arsenal one way or another.
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Pizzagate or the aftermath of one of the worst reffed games in the history of EPL.How man U had to cheat ,to stop our invincibles.

brings back alot of anger.

-Rooney big dive for the penalty.

-Rude boy almost breaking Ashley cole 'ankle infront of the lines man for what should have been a red card,but got nothing.

-Rio Ferdinand taking out Ljunberg in a last man position
and getting nothing etc

No wonder our guys were so pissed off!

f**k fuck ,why did you have to bring back this !!!
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Those games were full of passion. Nowadays the game is so fickle with players going down even on the slightest contact

Also reflects in what gets thrown. Nothing expresses passion than throwing a fiesty pizza. Now all they are throwing is milk on mourinho and some bottles. Smh
Here's highlights for that game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-pCRhFY9M

Man that Rooney dive is laughable. Arsenal definitely got hosed that game.
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That day was so shameful...it was as if the FA decided we are going to side with Manchester
I've been to Östersund both in summer and winter. Considering they in February have temperatures between 20-30C (BELOW that is), it's not necessarily going to be a straight-forward outing.
Or the only thing that will matter will be the emirates result. I expect our team to win this cup. No way we will lose to a pre season team
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Bookies favorites for Europa league :
1. Atletico
2. Arsenal
3. Dortmund
4. Napoli
5. AC milan

How would you rearrange it?
1. Atletico
2. Arsenal
3. Napoli
4. AC milan
5. Dortmund
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Atletico
Napoli
Arsenal
Dortmund
AC Milan
+1
Napoli
Arsenal
Atletico ( they are going to be more focused on the league and have been inconsistent in Europe )
BVB
Milan
I second Bazinga🙌
Surely there has to be better team than Dortmund to win it? They've been absolutely terrible this year.
Dortmund and Milan just changed coaches,its hard to tell the level of football they are going to produce.

Atlético are big favorites.

I third Bazinga.


second to xgoon
Basel vs Manchester City

Porto vs Liverpool

Sevilla vs Manchester United

no excuses.
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