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Lets all agree that poldi's left foot is beyond the realms of men.....best powerhouse foot on any football player i have seen even, crossing the great roberto carlos
I think he's the best finisher in the league. Seriously. It's just that some of his other attributes aren't comparable with the very best players. Mostly he's just lazy at times. I've always been a fan of his though.
I think he's kinda spacey. I imagine wenger yells at him for ball-watching and I doubt poldi even realized he does it.
http://news.arseblog.com/2014/04/boss-tempted-to-go-old-school-with-two-up-top/
Imagine partnering O.G with some one like Remy or Josip Drmc in a 442....
Podolski and Walcott as strikers in a 4-1-3-2?

Tex
Back 4
Arteta
Cazorla-Ramsey-Özil
Walcott-Podolski

I am such a FIFA 14 tactician :D

we would be raped on the wings
I'd like to see Giroud-Sanogo or Giroud-Walcott. That'd be interesting. Honestly think that if Rosicky wasn't fit, we might've seen Giroud-Sanogo yesterday. We did it at Wigan for a bit.
Well if you're scoring 10 goals a game with that formation, then you can afford to give up 5 or 6.
Good news - Ozil, Gnabry, Moonreal are back Apr 20, Wilshere Apr 28.
We are getting some depth for the remaining games and we need to score, score, score... to close minus 4 GD gap with Everton. Who knows... It may come to that
Great news :)
Hopefully they could all get some minutes and discover some form before we head to wembley.
Hey guys.
Does anyone have a gif or something of Girouds goal? Thanks :D
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http://giant.gfycat.com/BoilingDangerousBittern.gif
much power, such confidence, wow doge
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Thanks !
It almost looked like he was about to chest it but then was like "nope, I'm going to do something even better."
Our last 4 games against west ham, have started with west ham scoring first and then ending 3-1,5-1,3-1,3-1, all in our favour lol
I wrote basically the same piece on here days ago - this guy is even using my metaphor of the cogs in the Arsenal machine!

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9267854/saluting-giroud

Recognition for our much-maligned front man!
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Walcott never gets the credit he deserves, it's like if Hazard was injured all season.
"Arsenal's early season form demonstrated the effectiveness of such an approach. Walcott and Giroud both started Arsenal's first six matches, and the Frenchman scored five goals in such a timeframe. 25% of Giroud's goals scored in just six games due to the presence of a pacey threat in support."

Gee.. who would've thought that... So many morons on this forum can't understand this!
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Well, Zilch, some may like him, some not, but imo the striker who can not score individual goals and always needs a very specific support, can not be rated too high. Don't you agree that Arsenal deserve better to succeed from the guys like Wright, Bergkamp, Henry, even RVP ...
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No I don't, cos we've changed the way we attack. Do you not understand that a Striker WILL NOT FIT OUR CURRENT SYSTEM?

Any striker we buy is a Plan B. The majority of the time Arsenal will play with a Center Forward, not a Striker, that is how the team is now geared. You need to start thinking of it this way: When we attack the LW and RW become striker options, Giroud drops deeper and becomes the link up man between midfield and the opponents final third. Ozil and Ramsey become runners from deep to pull defenders with runs and Walcott, Cazorla and also Ozil, become the runner options in behind the defense. Giroud in the meantime, having won the ball in the opponents territory, has layed it off to a oncoming midfielder or out wider to a winger and then makes his run to the 6 yard box for the dangerous low cross hopefully coming in. This is the likely attacking scenario and the goal is scored usually in 1 of 3 ways:
1. from a deep run from Ramsey or Ozil
2. from a lay off on the 18 yard box from Giroud for Cazorla, Ramsey or Ozil to blast one.
3. from a ball out wide to Walcott or Cazorla running behind the defense and crossing low for a tap in for either Giroud, Ozil or Ramsey.

In the event of a counter attack, the method would be generally a flick on for Walcott to run beyond the defense and score. You need to realise that our CF's entire contribution to this attacking gameplan is to win the ball up the pitch, use his high workrate to help defend and pressure the opposing defense and to act as a wall to bounce passes off of while running in behind the defensive line ie Wilshere's stunning goal.

Also the CF's ability to win the high ball contributes greatly to our defense because the CBs can clear it with the knowledge it will be won further up the pitch, rather than worrying about keeping possession and making dangerous passes in our own goal box area.

By the way, from this you should be able to see that Giroud is currently being made to play in a way he's not compatible with. He isn't a striker, he relies on this gameplan and support from the surrounding players. Personally I like that we're not over-reliant on 1 player to score all our goals like with RVP. When our team is fit, Giroud is devastating. With Ozil, Ramsey, Walcott all out, he is massively nullified when asked to play as a single operative up front, hence a Striker being a Plan B for when we have injury problems that prevent our natural playing style. Add to that the fatigue levels from playing almost EVERY MATCH and it's no wonder he's had problems.
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facepalm....he's not a striker, hes a centre forward.

You should direct that question to Arsene Wenger who chose to utilise a CENTRE FORWARD as opposed to a striker in this team.

Please don't read this as me unleashing on you personally, but the failure to comprehend the difference between the two roles is really the cause of this long-standing debate.

If we had a flat 4-4-2 with midfielders out wide then this criticism of Giroud might hold some water but the whole point that Zilch et al are trying to make is that the team is setup differently to the teams of the past (note that when we had Wright/Bergkamp/Henry we played with 2 strikers, not one CF).

We have a centre forward in Giroud who has a specific role in this team. The wide forwards (Walcott/Podolski) and the midfielders play off of Giroud and they provide just as many (if not more) goals than the centre forward.

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I may be wrong but was under impression that we were forced to change our attacking style because we had failed to sign a proper striker after RVP left and the season thereafter (when Suarez bid failed), not vice versa.
Well we signed Podolski and Giroud in the same window when we still had RVP.

Maybe Wenger knew RVP was leaving by that point, but in any case we had the players in place before the attempt to sign Suarez last summer. It seems like that is how Wenger wanted to setup back in 2012.
for 9.6 million pounds, and he has 17 goals in the first season, and 20 goals now, to me is worth it. any top 4 team with a striker that cost less than 10 million pounds scores that much? remember the current top 4 team now. with exception of lukaku(who is on loan to everton and cost chelsea 17 million pounds)
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I would not rate players in £/goal. Its misleading. The fact that a player was inexpensive does not give him a slack to underperform. Probably team (manager and teammates)and fans expectations is a better benchmark.
I wouldn't use Arsenal fans expectations as a benchmark though - if we don't win the Quadruple undefeated then the team is a failure and the manager needs to be sacked immediately ;)
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its like people forget that its a team game. As if the recipe for success in football is put 11 players good at their positions on the park and that's that. Its a team game, no player can be looked at outside the context of the system. Giroud is a good CF who has worked his arse off for 20 goals and 8 assists this season. He has been isolated and overworked, and his personal life has gone to s**t, which is certainly gonna effect his form and so called fans have nothing but negativity for him? It makes me sick, expecially if these are the same fans angry at the supposed disloyalty of players like RVP and Nasri. If we had another CF as good as Giroud we would be in a very strong position this season.
Thats the short list of enforecments and replacements Arsenal gonna need to fix this summer:

1 - GK (If Fabianski leaves)
2 - RB (If Sagna does not sign)
3 - CB (to have 2 in each position)
4 - DM (to replace Arteta who is past his prime)
5, 6 - 2 strikers (the chatter is that Giroud will be sold partly for his off pitch actions)

Bonus : 7,8 - winger and attacking midfielder

So, minimum 6 upto 8 new faces. Holy cow!
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GK and CDM are a must and I always think we need a *looks right and left looking for zilch* a ST
.....Holy cow we always say this at the beginning of summer...but never seems to be the case that describes reality....
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The Draxler saga will continue again I think? So will you guys get him? :P
For me, the attacking third is where we need to be looking most. I know we've taken a couple of severe beatings but, for the most part, our defence hasn't been that weak.

Our biggest problem continues to be unlocking defences and scoring goals. We often seem to lack ideas and end up playing stale possession football with no end product.

A striker who can beat a man with a trick would be appreciated. Something different to Giroud. As much as I love the handsome frenchman, he only knows one way and he's not going to nutmeg John Terry and curl one past Petr Cech with the outside of his boot.
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If you read just the brackets, it sounds like the Pokemon theme song:

If Fab leaves,
if Sagna doesn't sign,
to have 2 in each position,
to replace Arteta who's past his prime!
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Lol Tanmay :)
Thirteen goals: mate I see a ST as necessary but what people need to realise is that any striker we get will most likely be a Plan B off of the bench while Giroud starts. The team is geared to play our wingers as strikers not the CF.

My own short list that I feel is possible is this:

First off bloody well keep Fabianski! He's better than Tex.
RB: Pisczek
CB: not sure but there's a lot of decent CBs who could play second string to Kos and Merts available on the market.
CDM: Camacho, the kid's amazing
LW: Reus
ST: Morata, great young talent. Reus can also play as ST.

Out: Podolski, hopefully not Sagna, Arteta and Fabianski. Possibly Vermaelen. Diaby should leave also, he's taking up a midfield position that he will never reliably fill with his injuries.
We wont get Reus IMO. I think we should go for Griezman :) instead cus he makes loads of runs behind the defence. And i want to keep Arteta here.

Edit: For the CDM position, maybe we get Ki Sung Yung from Swansea (on loan to Sunderland).
ciro immobile
danilo luiz da silva
giannelli imbula
Trust me GoonerZain, we want Camacho. He made the most tackles in La Liga last season with Malaga, most intercepts and has made 2 - that's right TWO defensive errors in 3 seasons!

tackle success is usually at least 50%, 70-80% for aerial duels, intercepts usually about 70% the kid is fantastic and I'm amazed nobody's bought him yet from a team in financial trouble.

Edit: This season he's made 74 clearances, 68 interceptions, 53 tackles, 88 aerial duels and ZERO defensive errors in 28 appearances. He doesn't like to dribble, is well disciplined and has a good passing accuracy as well. Add to that he's scored 5 goals, doesn't get injured and he's a brilliant young prospect at only 23 years of age.

And just for fun here's his stats from last season:
93 clearances, 105 intercepts, 79 tackles, 80 aerial duels won, 2 goals and 80% pass accuracy in 33 appearances.
But Zilch, what about the double pivot? Will we have to change the system to accommodate a true CDM?
Not at all mate, we currently operate the double pivot with a b2b mid(Ramsey/Wilshere/Oxlade and a CDM(Flamini/Arteta). The only reason recently that we haven't done this is due to injuries.
So in the event that we do get Camacho, surely one (or maybe even both) of Wilshere/Ox will not be a starter in the centre?

It seems like Ramsey will be the integral cog in the Arsenal midfield for years to come, so he would play alongside Camacho?

I guess Wilshere/Ox will be made into a CAM permanently?
you guys missed Drmic (who we're likely getting)

tbh you're assuming we're going to buy many players but the truth is we are also going to be promoting a lot of players from the reserve as well. If Olsson gets reupped for another few years i think we'll see him play more next season. Coq is gonna be sold as well so I assume our main priority for next season is gonna be CB, ST, LW, backup GK. I don't think we're going to be seeing 6 different players don't be surprised if we promote some players as well.
i thought we going for casemiro?
Deffyduck: I think it'll be more likely that Wenger uses Ramsey and Wilshere for different situations. Wilshere is explosive, great runs from deep dribbling at the opposition. But if you place him in the CAM position with his back to goal he can't build up the steam he needs for those runs. Against teams that park the bus, his defensive failings aren't such a big deal, he provides a direct route to goal that many other players are too patient to attempt. Ramsey on the other hand, excels at counter-attack, he's defensively disciplined, has a great long ball on him and in general would be 1st choice to start due to his composure when we're trying to set the tempo early in the match, not to mention his excellent partnership chemistry with Ozil. The two should be able to rotate with each other quite well depending on the opposition and provide Wenger with an easy tactical change while keeping each other healthy and free of injuries due to sharing playing time.
I know I might be overdoing it with the Giroud stats but I'm not the only one noticing it. This is from ARSEBLOG yesterday -

"Giroud scored today and it was a stunning goal of eye-watering beauty. But he took 4 shots and 3 were in prime positions. There is a sense that perhaps Giroud could and should be finishing better.
In fact Giroud has missed more of those big chances than any other forward this season, 16 of them by my count. He missed 19 of them last season as well and was rather quietly critiqued by several stats bloggers and in the papers for his poor finishing from good positions."

At least he managed to improve from 10% chance conversion last season to 18% this season in all competitions.
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It seems to me that we are divided into the fans who are over-hyping giroud and the ones who just dont consider him a good striker. lol
Nah there's about 3-4 who don't like him they just keep bleating on about it so it seems like there's a lot of them.

Arseblog is the biggest lol, the guy posts wonderful waxing lyrical about the team all season and then as soon as things start to unravel he goes back to whining and bitching about them, biggest damn hypocrit. One minute he's telling us to get behind the team and the manager and the players etc and the next he's throwing the toys out of the pram and blaming everyone he can.

The end of the day, some people aren't smart enough to understand how our team plays, they are the ones who think he's a bad player and they still say he's not a good striker which makes me laugh everytime cos they're too dumb to know the differences between a CF and a ST.
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Right, mate. His conversion rate is pretty poor for a forward, so is his balance, trickery, composure, starting speed, header.
The only thing he does well is a hold up, but due to its predictability there is a little added value to it. We all know that Arsenal have no alternative to Giroud and thats why he is played, to the best of his ability but not the world class...
zilch you name me one arsenal fan who is isn't a hypocrite :P or hell one football fan
O,o I don't know if Giroud is as bad as some try to illustrate him, but for a fact he can't dribble even to save his life. Which is the only thing that has annoyed me in him, and will always annoy me.

The article posted by Deffyduck 2 threads up is excellent.
Zilch Arseblog is usually fairly level headed I think, I don't see him throwing blame around with any ferociousness like much of our fan base does. And DBR, the quote you posted isn't from Arseblog, only the first part is. Why didn't you include this part?

"It would be nice if there was a certain amount of moderation, rather than extremism about him. He’s got 20 goals, only one assist fewer than Mesut Ozil, and while I certainly accept his limitations and believe we can and should upgrade in the summer, there are people who refuse to acknowledge any of his qualities, which is a bit of a shame."

You've made up the second part...You're like a journo who leaves out the most important part of a quote.
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Hahaahahhaaha! SNAP!! nice one Dougie27.

Maybe I was too critical but I have noticed that his writing becomes much less positive as we start losing. Rather than being a rallying point, he starts to lay blame etc when his site is predominantly about having a laugh and getting behind the team, hence hypocritical.
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Classy Club , Classy Players , Classy Manager. Arsenal!!
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YNWA
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Heard this joke today.

What's the difference between Manchester United and the Army.

Manchester United sends more scouts
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Add on, Army send more soldiers.. LOL..
Thanks for the joke, peace..
I am not come for troll..
Sorry if any of my words are offensive..
cheers
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