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Jack is really pushing for starting spot.
What a goal Giroud!
damn regardless of the rest of the match.. what a freaking goal!! genius!
Why does Wenger insist on using this formation. its so s**t.
Because he has no idea what the hell he is doing .
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cause this formation brought stability after shambles of last season.
There is really no difference as we clearly do not have any plan. just pass the ball around and maybe we score somehow.
Arsenal identity is truly lost
I just feel for Nelson, he belongs up high on the pitch, not wing back.
Also jack position is stupid too.
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Someone explain Xhaka please. I can't make out the way he plays.

Sometimes his passing looks great but everything else is average or terrible unless I am looking at him wrong. I watch him play off the ball a lot and he never presses or goes in for tackles. He seems to play zonally, shepherding opp players along. However once the opp player gets close to the box, he still does not do anything. It is fine not to tackle and keep opp players by the half way line but he literally keeps moving back with them all the way to our box. I don't understand what he does out there. Francis can't pass but his defending is much more defined and he shouts at the back four if there is an incoming threat.
I think u really need to ask xgooner and dani. Both of them are so obsessed with him, basically they tend to defend his critics. They might have some clues. From my opinion, he 'sometimes' has some nice long passes and long shot ability. Basically that is it. Talking about defends ability, nah i will be truly glad if he didn't give away goals to opponent. I really can't recall how many cheap goals he gave away this season already.
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Xhaka has really surprised me, i expected him to bring that aggressiveness to the midfield, but he hasn't. What we needed was a ball winner instead we got a bad tackler. His defensive awareness is just shocking. I wish Wenger would go back to coquelin atleast he offers our defenders real protection. Even Henry said he's like a police officer. Xhaka is costing us too many points atm. I hate how he is too casual on the ball when under pressure. It's like he has no sense of danger.
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Still amazes me how we paid £35M for him. Worst Wenger's transfer since I can remember. There used to be flops like Squilacci, but it was always because we went for cheap options and took a risk. But Xhaka costed similar money to Alexis and Ozil, and he offers pretty much nothing in return.
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Everyone shiit, sell the entire team.
I was disappointed with him.. not gonna lie, I defended him when he was over criticized.. I was giving him benefit of a doubt, cause I believe in his talent.. not sure what is going on with him, is it just him being shiit or tactical confusion with how Wenger wants him to play.. Also I hate partnership of him and Elneny (i did say that before).. I think Wilshere will be huge boost with Xhaka in the mid..
Dani that could work, but wilshere has to adapt and be more like cazorla. Xhaka-Cazorla combination was the original plan
Peterze I don't think so, I think Wenger knew Cazorla would not be fit for a season.

Dani Elneny peforms better though. He is average but seems it understand his role. However when I have watched him Egypt, Elneny looks much better as an attacking player.

Wish we spent the money on an actual CDM but Wenger prefers CMs/more attack minded CDMs. Money spent on Xhaka and Elneny was a waste. We could have gotten an expensive established CDM.
elneny is a backup player sorry
^ neither are good enough to start, just saying Elneny makes way less mistakes
Does the Ox ever boss a game? Or is he just constantly average or below average?
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No refunds, no exchanges.
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Just wanted an answer :x
To think he almost got a huge pay rise. He still has age on his side. He will have one good match followed by 7 horrible ones till he peaks😈
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ofcourse he has to play to reach his peak, that I'm sure he won't. specially when lallana comes back.
Yes he definitely has maybe half a dozen games. But that's like 0.5% of the games he's played.
sorry Weezer...the joke presented itself!

in seriousness, I always found him to be the most frustratingly inconsistent players. He often used to do something amazing and I'd think "oh great, if he can keep this up he'll boss it and be an Arsenal and England regular".

Next game he's absolutely clueless.

He's certainly got natural talent and technique but never consistently put in reliable performances. You might get a 9/10 out of him today and a 4/10 next week.

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His best position was wing-back, prior to that, he was an average injury prone player. He was a quick winger that played a bench role for the club up until Wenger switched to a back 3 and all the sudden Ox looked like a top quality player at wing back. That put him in the papers and in the transfer talks. Now the part where he goes to Liverpool was just confusing. Chelsea made sense because they play with wing backs and honestly he could have compete with either Moses or Alonso as he can play in both flanks but instead he believed he could be the next Gerrard to went to Klopp side. I don't blame him for being ambitious but Liverpool MF (Cms and wingers) are shoulders above him in terms of quality. Now his finding himself where he was before Wenger switched to the back 3, which is the bench.

I want him to prove everyone wrong but I don't really know how long he will last. Liverpool will only sign more quality in the MF for the future and if he can't get compete with the rest, his going to find himself further down the pecking order as Klopp will demand more quality players to go for the PL title.
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^exactly.

He's not getting into CM ahead of Henderson (c), Can, Wijnaldum or Lallana.

That means he's fighting for spots out wide against Mane, Salah and Coutinho.

He's a nice guy and, if only for England's sake, I want him to do well but the move to Liverpool just doesn't seem like the right one.
"Arsenal have offered Ozil £275,000-a-week but the player’s representatives have demanded £350,000-a-week and comments from his camp last week that talks had been going well have been met with some bemusement."

Imo he's worth no more than 100k these days.
Doubt Arsenal will repeat 275k bid.
Either sell him in January to best bidder or run the contract down but do not prolong.
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since wenger and ozil trust each other, they failed hard together. Both should just leave. Use ozil wages and pay to alexis, guy who makes a different
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Get rid of Ozil, Alexis and Wenger (yes I said it, still mad at his selection and sub from watford game).. Rebuild the team at last, with players that actually want to win and play for this great club
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Sry Ozil you do not deserve 350k
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I would add Xhaka to "get out of my team" group. The guy has no balls, no spirit, no stamina game after game. But Wenger tries to prove opposite starting him and fails again and again. We need major revamp top to bottom or else we turn into complete mid table mediocrity May take 1-2 years but we will regrow the fighters to replace these slugs. Read Martin Keown interview after Watford game. Spot on.
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At this point I'm willing to let him go. If you're putting in performances on par with Messi and Ronaldo, and single-handedly dragging your team over the line, you can command such wages but when your team play better without you it makes those wage demands comical.
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We really need to build a proper team the quality is so poor at this club
I wouldnt say quality is not there, I just dont see desire in them... The least I want to see from them, is to give it all on the pitch, when things dont go your way.. Usually result will go your way, or at least it wont feel like embarrassment.. But we do the opposite, we get scared and crumble.

I hate all those pictures by players on Instagram, showing that they training very hard and bla bla bla.. ye show that work on the field, not one Picture moment of your training.. really annoys me that shiit
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we need 11 alexis on the pitch.
^they would never pass to eachother, though...
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I'd like us to come out and all guns blazing and beat the s**t out of the Everton players. I don't care what the score is. I want to see us knocking bitches down, kicking the ball away, and getting in people's faces. I would just like to know that our squad has it. Buried deep down inside or wherever it is. It needs to come out. These soft performances are making a mockery of arsenal altogether. Look at Deeneys comments after they beat us, look at every single pundit and ex-arsenal player, even mertesacker admitting to it. Set football aside for one moment and go out and play like a man.
I feel like once that's out, the natural footballing talents will come out at the appropriate time.
I also long to see us play with passion. wenger has passion but not ability. players have the ability but not passion (apart from few like kos and jack). so the thing you want will not happen I'm afraid. maybe thursday night when some youngesters plays we are gonna see what you want. maybe
Boys vs Men since 2010.
It needs to happen with the first team. Xhaka was supposed to add strength and physicality. I can't even recall a tackle he's had, infact his tackling is so amateurish that he either misses altogether or ends up in the refs book for red. I feel like I've been doin a lot of finger pointing and calling players out lately and I hate it. It's frustrating to see our newer signings not plugging the holes we need to fill.
I know what you mean, Shay. As people may have guessed from my DP, Bergkamp is my all-time favourite Arsenal player.

The guy had amazing technique and end product but he was no snowflake, either. Arsenal legends all agree that he had a mean streak, he wouldn't take sh!t from anyone. Allegedly he was partial to dishing out a few kicks and elbows to opposing defenders.

When I look at this squad, I see amazing talent and technique but that fight is lacking. With his Bundesliga reputation as a tough tackler, I had hoped Xhaka would add some steel but hes basically more of the same. Great on the ball but not a pitbull.

Kolasinac looks like he might break the mould. He doesn't seem so technically brilliant at the moment but he's got fight.
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I absolutely love kolasinac. The quality of balls he has delivered since his arrival have already surpassed the combination of gibbs and nacho over the past 5 years. They actually find a player in the box. His defensive bullying is very refreshing!


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