Thanks for the info mate

Hey somere, when is the egyptian kid's trial?

I feel your frustration man, do you report stuff you see and then nothing happens? I don't really report anything unless it is the obvious stuff like racism. I think a bit of banter is fair, I'm afraid footytube is trying to censor the banter out of the site. I prefer to reason and poke back at the haters so I don't really report anything. What I find annoying is these mysterious sensitive types that do nothing when utd is being bashed but pop up to report any little thing they don't like that's posted by a utd fan. I feel that might be where some of the inconsistency lies because there's as much trash talking done by everyone, but it doesn't seem as though other fans are being dealt with the same way we are. It could be we arent reporting it, I know I'm not, so there's always is bit of doubt in my mind as to why that's the case. I remember posting in the liverpool forum used to be like tracking through hell, with hate-grenades flying everywhere. But now that forum is a bit more mellow because the fans there are not as hostile as a few that came before them. That's what I'm hoping spreads across the site, more self-censorship between fan groups without mods swooping in like police lol.

Yeah and last year was my worst in df, I had no time to research my team before hand nor make changes to keep up but i've got maybe too much free time this year so I'm doing s bit better

I'm not sure if you're aware of the reason why the term "clanfield" is banned, but this quote basically sums it up.

"Now this is a derogatory term that cropped up during the Suarez Evra debacle and the intention is basically to associate Liverpool with the KKK. I find it offensive because I, and the majority of Liverpool supporters, are in no way racist".

That was an issue brought up, and it was discussed between ALL mods, and was decided that it was crossing the line and people were using a term they did not understand the meaning of.

It is not the same as saying "Kunt" or "manure". A post that keeps using the term "clanfield" or "Klanfield" will keep getting deleted, and if the user refuses to comply, then further actions will have to be taken.

No mod cares about "respecting them". However, there needs to be a limit to the amount of criticism that goes on. This post, again, is quite irksome and goes exactly against what myself and SiS have been trying to discuss. You've time and again accused me of saving face, and time and again refused to respond when Tony's come on to say the same thing on your wall. Selective memory helps no one. If you've got a particular complaint against any "new mod", feel free to express it, and contact us, or tony, or Matt or any mod that you respect, so you can have a discussion about it. This kind of post helps no one, and just causes us all to go around in circles

Lol you trying to get me banned man?

Jk.... Thanks for the vote of confidence, I really appreciate it. It goes without saying that I respect your opinion more than I respect the vast majority of the mods and other posters

The reason I backed off was because I chose to believe magneto was telling the truth that someone flagged my post and none of utd fans flagged the other comments. Imo that's what should happen, we should flag trolls and the mods should handle it.... But only problem is I don't see either as trolling.... So why backdown? Because eventually it will spiral into name-calling and war again, and that isn't really worth it. Eventually I expect other decent fans to have the balls to keep the idiots in check. Wishful thinking, but that's my hope.

I of course have my own definition of trolling, and what I said wasn't flag-worthy.... Nor what was said before.... So it comes down to an issue of mods being consistent. For now, it seems they will let things go unless we complain or unless the language is deemed abusive. I can respect that. Being consistent/fair and having responsibility is tough and I don't envy the mods. They can only take care of stuff we complain about, so if we don't complain officially.... Then we will have to endure the rubbish.... Or we wait until the other neutral fans speak up and do the right thing, which is what I'm hoping for. If we keep having to defend ourselves, the cycle keeps repeating, and I'm tired of the BS. If other fans can't keep their friends in check, then it is only a matter of time before footytube goes down the drain and just turns into tribalism.... Everyone sticking to only their fav club forums, insulting other teams on the club forum and on the video pages.... That's the day I close my account.

Now the reason I apologized to magneto, not because I agree that what he was doing is the right thing, not because I think what I said was wrong.... The approach I took was wrong, almost like I was instigating more drama by challenging him like that.... I just wanted a public explanation so everyone was on the same page, not to create a scene. Also because I didn't give him the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to be consistent. I jumped to conclusions, and called him out on it publically. That was messed up. In hindsight if he had mentioned someone flagged my comment first, I would have reacted differently. I don't agree with the currently policy fully, but if he is trying to be consistent (addressing posts that were flagged, trying to prevent things from escalating without deleting posts and going mad with power), then I can respect his effort and then complain in a different way.... By criticising the rules and how things are run.... The way I said it on the premiership page seemed more of a personal attack on him than me trying to figure out why he said what he said. I wasn't trying to embarrass anyone, I just wanted an explanation and I think I went about that in the wrong way so I apologized. I don't think magneto is a bad guy or bad mod, so I felt bad about calling him out like that just because of a mixup in communication.

And one of these days I'm going to win this stupid dreamfooty.... Maybe a smaller one like euros or world cup. The season is just too long, I don't have the stamina to keep up lol