Players descend to Twitter spat over Vincent Kompany red card
• Rio Ferdinand branded a baby by Manchester City player
• Wayne Rooney rebuts Roberto Mancini's allegations
by Daniel Taylor 1 year ago
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The controversy over Vincent Kompany's red card escalated after players from the two Manchester teams used Twitter to argue about the merits of the sending-off and Rio Ferdinand was branded a "big baby" for questioning why there was sympathy for the City captain.

Ferdinand had joined Wayne Rooney in arguing that the referee, Chris Foy, was right to show Kompany a red card that will almost certainly result in the Belgian defender serving a four-match ban. "How can there be any debate about the red card yesterday?? You leave the ground with a 2footTackle = red card,"

said Ferdinand.Rooney also hit back at Roberto Mancini's allegations that he heavily influenced Foy's decision. Rooney's message said: "Funny how people think I got kompany sent off. I'm not ref. I didn't give red card. But it was a clear red card. 2 footed tackle."

The exchange then drew a withering response from an unlikely figure, with City's reserve striker Alex Nimely posting a message on his own account, saying: "Rio Ferdinand needs to stop been a big baby."

City have lodged an appeal with the Football Association, to be heard on Tuesday, in a last attempt to prevent Kompany missing both legs of the Carling Cup semi-final against Liverpool as well as the league games against Wigan Athletic next Monday and Tottenham Hotspur the following Sunday.

The chances of the decision being overturned are slim, however, with City needing to demonstrate that Foy made a clear mistake. Only 14 out of 50 red-card appeals were successful last year and Mancini's anger was clear after the match when he accused Rooney of deliberately influencing the referee by running to him and demanding a red card. Rooney, he said, had "told him [Foy] his decision".

Sir Alex Ferguson, however, brushed aside the accusation. "I have no complaints about Wayne, I don't think it was unacceptable what he did. I think it was a natural reaction to a bad challenge from an opponent."

City's appeal is based on the fact that Kompany did not connect, or hurt, Nani when he slid into the 12th-minute tackle that had such a major say in United's 3-2 win. Yet Kompany left the floor with both feet raised and City will not be encouraged when they reflect on the case of the Wolverhampton Wanderers midfielder Nenad Milijas, whose sending-off at Arsenal last month prompted widespread criticism of the referee Stuart Atwell but ended with the player losing his appeal.

Ferguson described Kompany's tackle after the match as dangerous, arguing that Nani could easily have been injured. Kompany said on Twitter that he was "surprised" by those comments and the City defender Micah Richards, who may now have to revert from right-back to centre-half, reiterated the sense of injustice at the Etihad Stadium.

"The decision killed the whole game," he said. "We've watched it again 10 or 20 times and it was never a red card. I think for the 10 minutes before that we were battering them. Vinnie is obviously disappointed and, if it had been 11 v 11, it would have been a different game."

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My one question is: why is no one on ManC blaming Kompany in this? The two-footed tackle is CLEARLY illegal--everyone knows this, even kids and idiots. Just like everyone knows a last-man-back foul or an intentional handball in the box are red-card offenses. To my mind Kompany was simply being incredibly stupid or is ignorant of the rules. Either way as a teammate I would be very angry and annoyed at Kompany and no one else, especially not Foy or Rooney (Mancini, get a grip).

It would be like blaming the ref for the red card given Suarez in the WC.
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before judging Kompany...better have a look at rooney tackles....just awful and how many times was he punished???
Footballer using twitter........................

I'm suddenly reconsidering my views on Freedom of Speech.
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I understand completely what the FA is trying to do by giving cards for these types of challenges because they target the legs which can easily break.
My only problem is that because they are doing this the sport has become basically a non contact sport. Challenges on legs are very scary nd dangerous but i think they should be more lenient on shoulder to shoulder. They call fouls all the time when a player shoulders another guy and he falls or something. Strength is part of the game or at least it should be and they are affectively taking it out of football. If someone gets shouldered off the ball then he needs to hit the wait room not get the ball back when he was to weak to get it in the first place.
There's a difference between shoulder to shoulder contact when you are jostling for the ball and just shoulder barging someone to the ground. That's a rugby tackle. Not a football tackle. And studs up, two footed is a moronic way to go for the ball. I don't see what all the fuss is about. Any other player would have got a red card for the same offense whether they got all ball, all player, or both. If Nani didn't jump over his tackle, his career would likely be over right now.
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if if if.... when does it end?
Its now ok to sanction tackles because of ifs?
And i said shoulder to shoulder didn't I?
Not shoulder barging so i dont know where your going with that.
As i said leg challenges are the dangerous kind, i accept.
hey hasselhoff, you said you understand why these tackles are being carded, so why are you arguing with Gotlbra about it, who has the same view? He never implied or state "its ok to sanction tackles because of ifs." Pay attention and think, instead of just raging.

Also, how do you figure that physicality is being eliminated from the game? Shoulder-to-shoulders very much are alive and well, as are any tackles (single-footed) that get the ball first. Besides the constant diving, I'm not sure where your complaint is coming from.

My profile picture is Fabio not hasselfhoff so for misconstruing the two anything you say in now invalid.
Old Old Spice Guy > Fabio.
bla bla bla. .the only things people will remember in two weeks is that manu is still in the FA CUP. .oh yeees we won:)))))
I think is so funny how Mancini is condemning Rooney's actions when only a few weeks ago he made a public apology because he called for a player to be red carded....for the SECOND time in as many seasons, after he said he would never do it again after the first time.

I believe the ref was right, not because I'm a Man u fan (well maybe a little bit). But that same tackle another few inch to the left or right could have broken Nani's leg or at least seriously injured him...the fact that in this particular instance nobody was hurt is irrelevant. Ref's have to be proactive in protecting players.

A foul should not be judged by the amount of damage it causes to a player, but rather by the amount of damage it COULD have caused.
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heard this so much a lot of tackles if you move it a little bit could be very dangerous. For instance, say someone goes for a header with an opposing player, he wins the ball but their heads hit. A few inches down and his head would hit the guy in the nose and break it.
A goalie punches a ball out with another guys trying to head it. If his hands were a bit lower he would have punched the guy in the head.
A guy makes a a tackle on a guy while standing up. If you lift the guy up 3 ft then he would be kicking the guy in the nuts.
Saying stuff like "if" it was this or that then this or that would happen
is the stupidest thing iv'e ever heard. What do you want? no one to make 50-50 challenges because if they are a few inches in any direction they could hurt the other player a lot. Just stupid. This is not a comment trying to say your opinion of the card or mancini is wrong. This is a comment about your stupid thought about how cards should be given.
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You can't compare those other fouls to this kind of foul because none of those are straight red's every time. This kind of foul is a straight red every time (dangerous play-studs up, two footed going in with full force-a neanderthal play), just like bringing a player down when you are the last man, and intentionally handling the ball to prevent a goal. There should be no second guessing on giving a yellow. It should be red every time to tell players not to do it and if it's not then players think they can get away with it by just getting a yellow.
like the above comments you seem to comment about what you want and then say i said them which i didn't. I wasn't talking about cards im strictly talking about fouls and the if if if that everyone is saying.
If he had made contact with nani, nani would probably be in bad shape but who know because IT DIND'T HAPPEN. Just like all the times a header is contested someone could get really injured in an honest way same with 50-50 balls. When does it end? Are players just not supposed to be competitive anymore? I mean oh no what if I hurt someone trying to get the ball, heaven forbid. Its a f*****g sport and sport is supposed to be for the athletically and physically elite who get paid lots of money to entertain people. Its a contact sport and people know what can happen to them.
being competitive and being dangerous (i.e. going in with two two studs showing) are two very different things. You can be competitive without putting peoples careers in jeopardy...Like Gotlbra said, if he was the last man and brought Nani down, you would have no complaints...so why is it that when he goes in two footed with studs showing, there's complaints from every angle...just because the player didn't get hurt????

Its a clear cut rule, all players know that. Just like the last man foul, you wouldn't expect any other decision than a red in that case. Komapny knows that and chose to go in guns (or studs in this case) blazing anyway, and he got a deserved red card. Simple as that
Khessler, relax, you sound like an idiot. Gar420 said that the result of the tackle is irrelevent to whether it deserves to be called a foul, yet you are going on and on about "if if if". Gar's point is that we aren't considering "if" in these cases; no matter the "if he got hurt or not" its a foul. In Kompany's case, its irrelevent that (like ManC fans keep pointing out) he didn't hit Nani. The only point is that he attempted the illegal tackle.

Stay on topic and try to follow along mate.
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dont act like your better than i am with these condescending comments.
im just talking about how its dumb to judge tackles based on if this if that. So what exactly are u trying to say?
Instead of telling people to follow along maybe follow along yourself.
Okay I wont use any if. 2-footed challenge is not allowed. Period. What are you talking about regarding football becoming a non-contact sport? I basically watch every single BPL game with a lot of contacts here and there. Compared to other leagues, I still find this league as the hardest and fastest compared to other leagues. Oh and sure Kompany got that ball cleanly, because Nani got so scared of that challenge that he decided he did not want to have the ball anymore.
You have to be honest. That's surely not a red card. Kompany didnt mean to do any harm. If u look at it, u will c that his leg wasnt pointing towards Nani's legs, it was wide apart. The only thing is he rush there too fast, making it looks dangerous. I'm sure that Nani also didnt think that the red card would be given. I completely disagree with Rooney and dislike him in the way that he ran to the referee with both hands rising in the air. He should let the referee make his own decision, not putting pressure on him, even Nani, who is the one has been tackles, didn't say anything to the referee.
Kompany's tackle was so much worse than Spearing's. Spearing follow through got him sent off, his two footed tackle was very rash!
No matter how much City cries and rebukes the ref and Wayne, the bottom line is that they lost game and nothing is gonna changed and they are out period. It is time to forge ahead and stop moaning around. Decisions are always bad if they are made against your side and it is really understood by the reaction from City sympathizers. But get over it, many clubs have gotten such decisions, so why should City be sacred cows anyway?
It's not like Chelsea fans or Spurs fans haven't complained, why shouldn't City fans be allowed to complain? Wait until you get FOYed XD
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I guess foyed is officially a word now lol
For all that matters and for all the money city have spent they cannot do a double this year.....
are u sure bro?
@urots we'll see about that
I don't get this logic, that if you fail to connect with or otherwise damage another player in a two-footed tackle, then it is acceptable. I'm glad the FA is making an effort to rid the game of these tackles because I am tired of seeing players having their legs shattered, or even encountering a situation where leg-shatter is possible. I don't particularly like Nani but he was lucky to escape without serious harm.
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As an Arsenal fan you know what two-footed tackles result in.
Aaron Ramseys foot broken in half thats what.
If you try to murder someone but fail, you go to jail regardless. What if Kompany's 'clean' tackle was a bit off?
They are simply not needed on the pitch, two footed challenges, clean or not.
A defender like Kompany should above all know that.
Mangina is pathetic, so is that nameless City reserve striker who learned how to use Twitter before learning how to write!
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Ummmm, thanks, I think.
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Well said Mavc.
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The thing is that if you guys look at the replay, it can clearly be seen that Kompany timed his tackle perfectly. Unlike Spearing and also the guy who broke Ramsey's leg, for me, that is world class play. Kompany was only reacting because of his great instinct as a defender. But I guess Foy won't even consider that and couldn't do anything but to follow the rules and yes it was a red card. Well, life is unfair anyway
@Chrisjuw
MAVC89 "They are simply not needed on the pitch, two footed challenges, clean or not.
A defender like Kompany should above all know that." I like this. Well said.
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