Manchester Utd are running away with the title. Are they better than we think?
After dominating the Premier League and putting Real Madrid under pressure, it is time to praise Sir Alex Ferguson's side
by Sean Ingle 3 months ago

Even in a week when they pretty much sealed the deal in the Premier League and left Madrid with their Champions League prospects still smelling of roses, there was not an enormous amount of love for Manchester United. There has not been all season.

Sure, David de Gea, Phil Jones and Jonny Evans, among others, were given credit for their displays at the Bernabéu. And faint-praise adjectives – resilient, dogged – found their way into match reports. But the suspicion lingers. This United side are nothing special.

The narrative is repeated to tedium. Their midfield is unfit to polish Roy Keane's Diadora Match Winner IIs. They have a dodgy keeper. They hit frequent flat spots. They are overreliant on Robin van Persie's specials.

And then there is the defence, which has conceded 31 league goals at an average of 1.19 per game – a mean (a word alien to United's back four this season) higher than any English champions since Ipswich shipped 67 goals in 42 games in 1961-62.

But here is the rub: when you compare United's points tally after 26 games to the greatest English sides of the past 30 years, it is up there. In fact way up there.

The United class of 2012-13 have 65 points – not only 14 points better off than the 1999 treble winners at this stage but, incredibly, more than any United side managed by Sir Alex Ferguson after 26 games.

Their tally is also better than Arsenal's Invincibles (64 points after 26 games in 2003-04). And equal to José Mourinho's 2004-05 Chelsea side, who went on to smash the Premier League points record.

Since three points for a win was introduced in 1981-82, only two sides have accumulated more than United's 2012-13 vintage after 26 matches: Kenny Dalglish's wonderful 1987-88 Liverpool team and Chelsea in 2005-06, who both had 66.

So, what is it to be? Are United much better than they are given credit for – or is the Premier League as uncompetitive as most people outside Sky Sports' promotional department suspect?

Certainly you can make the case for the latter. Manchester City are on an epic post-title comedown. Chelsea seem stuck in some late-Brezhnevian limbo while the old guard cling on. And Arsenal are like a butterfly that has had its wings ripped off one by one.

But is this season's Premier League, say, really any less competitive than in 2010-11 when an average United team ground and pounded their way to the title? This time round they are romping away with it. They surely deserve a lot more credit.

Perhaps because their personnel have not changed much, people do not believe individuals' performances can either. But Michael Carrick is having his best season for at least four years while Evans has improved enormously, too.

And while De Gea gets stick, it's worth pointing out that United have allowed 116 shots on target this season, an average of 4.5 per game. That is higher than every United team – indeed every Premier League winner – since Opta started compiling such data in 2002. De Gea is letting in some but he is keeping plenty out too.

By contrast, Mourinho's Chelsea allowed 83 shots in his first season, while Arsenal's Invincibles were nearly as curmudgeonly.

But perhaps the old maxim, that defences win titles, does not hold like it once did. Changes in the offside rule and the way tackles are punished have tilted football in favour of attackers. Ferguson could be merely playing the odds.

Even one of his 2012-13 side's greatest strengths, their ability to come from behind, is acknowledged begrudgingly; as if they should not have conceded in the first place. But this was a quality venerated in the 1999-2003 sides. Perhaps the critics are taking an instinctive standpoint – they are a modest United team – and fitting the evidence to suit that, rather than judging them on their own terms.

But the narrative can be changed. We forget that the 1998-99 treble-winners, arguably Ferguson's greatest side, had their struggles. After Arsenal beat United 3-0, the Guardian's David Lacey wrote of a "listless, shapeless United side". In November, he warned of the "uncharacteristic errors" that had crept into Peter Schmeichel's game. And following United 3-2 home defeat to Middlesbrough, the Observer's Paul Wilson remarked that "Giggs's touch was poor … and Beckham … put in one of his least substantial performances".

In the midst of the 24-hour news cycle even the most insignificant of facts is stuck under a microscope. But with distance the squabbles and the grind are forgotten: we remember only the most vivid notes. The stunning comebacks against Juventus and Arsenal. Giggs's wonder goal. The feeling that Keane would blast through anything in his way.

Such a reappraisal could yet happen to this United team. Critics will point out that they rarely play well for 90 minutes and are often lucky. And that, between now and May, they will have been found out.

That may well be the case. But, given their record so far, their remarkable tenacity and their knack of winning matches – even when they have been stinking the place out – they surely deserve the benefit of the doubt over the next three months while we find out just how good they are.

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To my surprise, today, the current point difference of EPL and La Liga top 3 teams are the same.

MU 65 FCB 65
MCity 53 Atl.M 53
Che 49 RM 49

It's just EPL teams already played 26 games compared to La Liga teams who just played 24 games.

So I guess United is as good as Barca in their own respective league.
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even in bundesliga, the leading team has more than 10-pt gap at the top
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Zolamagic you are just bitter,and worse for you, you cant use excuses like "They bought the league!, They have bottomless pit full of money! etc" Whereas many have said so towards your beloved Chelsea post-Roman era and Man City post-crazy-sheik-with-nothing-better-to-do era.

Loved the real Zola tho, full of magic, always a joy to watch.
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respect where respect is due

united has done it again.
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I was very young in the Treble era, but I remember the team being no more formidable than what we've got now. I think between Cantona and CR7 there was a period where the team lacked a No. 10. Even Van Nistelrooy, who was always in the shadow of one Thierry Henry.

Van Persie is the difference, but the team as a whole is very respectable. We've had to deal with injuries and a transition phase as well (Scholes, Giggs etc. out for Kagawa, Cleverley etc.)

The other major factor is the character in our ranks. You look at City and see a bunch of uninspired mercenaries who play as if they've nothing left to conquer. Same with Real, actually. And how many leads have Chelsea let slip this season? They were on-course to beating us at the Bridge until Torres and Ivanovic got themselves sent-off. Demba Ba was brought in to plug the Torres flaw, but he's been at 3 EPL clubs in 2 years. Many would rank him over Chicha, but what good is he if he jumps ship again next season? Loyalty and commitment is an oft-overlooked value in a squad. Even Van Persie came here after turning-down a fatter contract offer from City. The players we've got want to be here, and it shows.
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Are Squad has a lot of depth this season and is very strong. I think we've replaced a lot of players well but one to me which we still havent found is another Roy Keane...We deffinetely need that because are CM hardly has any aggression and beast mode in the middle of the park.

And obviously another Ronaldo is born every million years lol.
I actually think you've got Ronny and Keane the wrong way round - I see a lot of Ronny in Gareth Bale; but I've not seen anyone approaching Keane - he was truly a one-of-a-kind. Dembelé is too reserved in his demeanour to have the influence on a game and team that Keane did. Some say Tioté, but he's very limited.

Besides, we got by without a player of Keane's mould in 07/08 by playing a defensive-minded full-back, together with Hargreaves/Park/Fletcher in front. We really miss those 3, perhaps more than Ronaldo in some ways (since we're scoring more now, than we did when he was here)
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This squad is one of the best if not the best SAF has had but the first team is no where near as good as 93/94, 98/99 or the 07-11 one. the treble winning squad had a midfield or Beckham, Scholes, Keane and Giggs which is the greatest to ever grace the EPL. 93-94 couldn't compete due to the european rules at the time and the 07-11 squad that did so well in Europe where just incredibly unlucky to exist in the same era as one of the best ( if not the best) club side to ever exist in Barcelona.

United need to sort their midfield out and get a better coach than mike phelan. SAF is a great manager but he needs someone to give him a helped hand in europe where he's always been naive. Quieroz was amazing for United and they f****d up letting him go.
"Chelsea seem stuck in some late-Brezhnevian limbo while the old guard cling on."

Nice.
dropped as many points... haha good one
AHH, it's so true! :(
Everyone else is worse then we think. They have been gifted the title.
How many Premier League winners have dropped as many points and conceded as many goals as United have this season? None.
You're right about the goals conceded, but very wrong about the dropped points. Perhaps you should read the article.
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Thats the truth Nova, dont think he looked up ha:)
OK but the vast majority of title winners do not drop as many points. That's the truth. 'None' is wrong but surely you can see what I am saying? Or just an opportunity to show your 'wisdom'?
Still wrong, read again.
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If a team has second highest points total ever after 26 games, that means they have dropped the second least amount of points after 26 games. Goals win games, points win titles.
No, it's not the truth. Just read the article properly.
The team to win the " mini league" at the top of the table generally win the league. United did the double over Liverpool and also beat Arsenal, Chelsea, City, Newcastle and only dropped points to Spurs. They deserve to be where they are but I do think the league is extremely poor. It's a bit like discrediting Madrid and Barcelona last season really, la liga wasn't great but Madrid and Barcelona where just too good for them much like United are for the rest of the EPL.

they are still behind the likes of madrid, barca, dortmund, munich and possible juventus but they are in a transitional period where as those teams i mentioned are more or less established. by the time the younger players get experience and they sort out their midfield problems the team will gel and be ready to fergusons successor to take over with stability already established.
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learn how to read
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