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I've never agreed with you more ;)
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Lol was gone post something but it was the wrong page
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Wouldn't be surprised if Trippier turned out to be better than Walker this season, sometimes it's not just the player, but also management and coaching, and Poch seems better than Pep in that area.
Wouldn't be surprised if Danilo plays more than Walker lol.
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Alexander Arnold is better than Walker lol
Wouldn't be surprised if both Danilo and Walker flop and we have to play Fernandinho instead lol.
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Kyle Walker would start for any team in the prem.
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I think we prefer Clyne, and I think Man Utd prefer Valencia, and I think Arsenal prefer Bellerin, I think... yeah you get the point
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fast paced merchant who cant cross?

no thanks, we got the younger version of that already
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^with better hair.
I will take Walker at Chelsea in a heart beat
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^ Yeah pay 50m for runner-up and replace Moses who won PL playing full season.
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It depends what your looking for. Walker is a attacking FB and can operate as a wing-back, sure he might not be the best crosser but he does chip in a fair number of assists. Has the pace to track back and the strength of a bull. Don't get why people are saying his sh*t.

@Silva, Interesting enough. I remember Trippier playing for City in pre-season waaaay back I think it was 09 was something but was just a youngster then. The definition of hard work. I can't believe how far his come.
Morata to Chelsea for 67 mil?? wow he was sold to Juventus for 20 mil then Madrid bought him back for 30 mil and just after 1 season which is spent on the bench cos there is no way he was going to bench Benzema he's now 67 mil? shouldnt his price tag decrease from the 30 mil cos he was on the bench most of the time for Madrid and not the other way around?? talk about inflating the market and before any fan starts arguing look again City's 50 mil cap for a player is still in place and no Kyle Walker was 45mil plus bonuses if he plays certain amount of games. Mendy? again around our 50 mil cap.
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Your 50 million cap means nothing if you are paying close to 50 million for any half decent player. What kind of idiot pays 50 million for Kyle Walker?
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lol hes 45 mil not 50 mil and what kind of idiot pays 50 mil for an injury prone Lacazette?
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You can't just say his market value should decrease because he wasn't a starter last season. Does 15 goals in a season with mostly coming on as a sub mean nothing? Also except for Ronaldo, he won Real more points than any other players.
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@TheBokiya the problem is not his skills or goals but the money you paid for him...we were about to get Mendy for 40 mil but when you decided to pay 67 mil for Morata, Monaco said if a bench warmer is worth 67 mil then Mendy is worth at least 50 mil you get the point of inflating the market?
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@DanTheGooner you think Kyle Walker is not worth 45 mil?? you want his stats from last season?
33 appearances
14 clean sheets
39 chances created, I repeat 39 chances created
5 assists
I say he's worth every penny
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Tell me if this most expensive (200m) defense is better than defense of any Top team from top-4 leagues across Europe?.

No offense, but i wont be surprised if Everton , West Brom or Stoke city put up better defensive display compare to this defense.

---------------Ederson---------------
Walker---Stones--Otamendi ----Mendy

Morata (Center forward) cost us 60m(as reported by BBC) which is Just 8m more than 52m you guys paid for Mendy full back and 10m more than Sterling , Stones and Walker who have won nothing.

"we were about to get Mendy for 40 mil but when you decided to pay 67 mil for Morata, Monaco said if a bench warmer is worth 67 mil"

Just wow to this epic statement. That 50m cap means nothing if everyone Tom , Dick and Harry is costing you guys 50m and net spending is about 400m over two season when you already have Aguero , Silva , Sterling , Yaya, Fernandino , KDB in your squad.

Top clear you doubts here is one special stat about Kyle Walker - 302 club appearances including PL, Cup and CL.

Trophies won - 0

Same applies to Stone , Sterling and Mendy who all had one good season.But, yet cost you approx. 200m combined for 4 players. So, I would not be too surprised if Morata cost 60m after having played 150 games for clubs like Real and Juve scoring 70 goals
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a City fan accusing other clubs of inflating the market, doth mine eyes deceive me?

5 x £50m transfers have more impact on influencing a market than 1 transfer for £67m. By paying over the top for pretty much all your transfers you establish those prices as the norm.

35m - Ederson
17m - Bravo
47m - Stones
44m - Sterling
32m - Managala
30m - Otamendi
52m - Mendy
45m - Walker
43m - B. Silva
54m - KdB
37m - Sane

that is what drives a market to accept new higher transfer fees.
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we are talking about fees paid for just 1 player, not how much we spent over 20 years SMH
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@Bazinga replace either Stones or Ottamendi with Kompany and we have a better defence than you do
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Deff- Since he is including Add-ons for Morata deal. I dont think we should no spare add-ons from Sterling , Stones , Walker deals which will take them to 50m each.

Basically, like you said 5*50m deals for player who have won nothing(1 league for Mendey*) and achieved nothing inflates the market more than anything and they are the actual reason why even Swansea is asking 50m for Sigurdsson

@Aguerocity - Like i said City defense is probably worse than Everton at this point even with Kompany. Lets stop the comedy by comparing to Chelsea defense for god sake.

We are talking about fee paid for 1 player and not 20 years lol!. 5*50m for 5 average players is why market is inflated and not because we paid 60m for Morata. lol
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hoho my friend those are just SOME of the transfers from the last 5 years (max 5, most are more recent than that!) that I could recall off the top of my head.

If I listed 20 years worth of transfers to includes the likes of such budget signings as:

22m - Jovetic
28m - Bony
20m - Navas
34m - Fernandinho
24m - Nasri

et al - your position on the moral highground is even more untenable.
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Know thyself, AgueroCity.

You and I both follow clubs that are in the top-5 worst offenders when it comes to causing inflation in the football transfer market.

Let's talk about a few random things:
#1 - KDB is the 10th most expensive player ever, at €74m

#2 - Sterling is the 17th, at €62.5m

#3 - This means City has spent more on "just 1 player" than Chelsea has; Morata is our most expensive at €65.5

#4 - Only 33 players have cost €50m or more, and City bought 6 of them

#5 - Real also bought 6; Barca bought 3; Juventus 2; United 3; Chelsea 2; PSG 3

#6 - Can we all PLEASE agree to post the currency we are referencing? It looks like some people in this thread are talking € and some £.

EDIT: About 20 posts down I realized that Morata cost more Pounds than KDB but that KDB cost more Euros.
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To summarize:

"and before any fan starts arguing look again City's 50 mil cap for a player is still in place"
- Wrong; KDB and Sterling both cost more than €50m

"we are talking about fees paid for just 1 player, not how much we spent over 20 years SMH"
- Hilarious; no one has even cited a City transfer from more than 5 years ago, let alone 20

"we were about to get Mendy for 40 mil but when you decided to pay 67 mil for Morata, Monaco said if a bench warmer is worth 67 mil then Mendy is worth at least 50 mil?"
- Hypocritical; you really think Monaco decided to charge you more for a defender because two different teams from different leagues than them sold a completley different type of player for more? You don't think it had anything to do with City just buying another defender for the same fee Monaco then asked for?
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Dan the man lol, good one bro, Aguerocity, just give up the debate already and watch football this season, in the end we will look like muppets if we fail lol, so leave the price tags alone.
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Mendy transfer is done. £52m. Third most expensive PL signing this window so far
*grab popcorn
@Ttk86 i wonder which clubs signed the most and 2nd most expensive PL signings this window? care to tell?
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@Deffyduck go to your Arsenal forum and your own fan stated that Arsenal has spent more on defence than City since 2013
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Kgb112 "Wrong KDB and Sterling both cost more than 50 mil"

"#3 - This means City has spent more on "just 1 player" than Chelsea has; Morata is our most expensive at €65.5"

Wrong KDB cost us 54 mil pounds with add ons, Morata cost you 67 mil pounds with add ons. You have signed players much more expensive than City has. You signed Torres for 50 mil pounds and at that market we were signing player for no more than 20-30 mil pounds. Yaya David Silva Dzeko Balotelli all these guys cost us less than 30 mil. Also remember you got your sugar daddy way before we did.
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Didn't Monaco demand £52m because Man City paid £50m for a player that can't cross? Man City can't talk, and I'm not saying Liverpool wouldn't spend a lot, we will probably pay a lot of money for VVD or Keita if we get them but thats the market these days. Morata and Lukaku who aren't even world class cost a ton of money, strikers ain't cheap these days.
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10m - Cech
4m - Ospina
400k (ish?) - Bellerin
35m - Mustafi (the big one!)
16m - Chambers
10m - Koscielny
11m - Gabriel
8m - Mertesacker
8m - Monreal
2m - Holding
Free (Academy) - Gibbs
Free (Bosman) - Kolasinac

thats basically the entire Arsenal defence for about £100m (and I'm generously including deals prior to 2013)

City spent £100m and got Walker and Mendy - Just those two, so please do elaborate on how we spent more on defence than you guys.

I don't know why you're even arguing. You have all your facts and fees wrong from the very beginning and when people point this out you follow it up with yet more inaccurate nonsense.


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@Deffyduck i can also say

Zabaletta 7mil
Kompany 8 mil
Clichy 11 mil
Hart 0.3 mil
Kolarov 17 mil
Nastasic 17 mil

But unfortunately when clubs pay so much for a single player we have to pay 50 mil for a defender nowadays
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but again go back to the Arsenal forum find the conversation and read it your own fans stated you have spent more on defence since 2013 dude ... looks like you don't follow your own Arsenal page
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@Kgb112 looks like your Morata cost you 70 mil pounds with add ons i don't know where you area getting the 65 mil euros

http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/soccer/news/batshuayi-issues-a-warning-to-morata-but-chelseas-70m-man-looks-set-to-take-off/in994viybube13hywmoiygwlu

If you don't want to see the truth then thats your choice. I'm done with this topic. The day we spend 70 mil pounds plus on a single player then you can point fingers at City but not until then ;)
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Aguero,

Dude, you keep switching between €'s and £'s whenever it is helpful for you to try and make a point.

"Wrong KDB cost us 54 mil pounds with add ons, Morata cost you 67 mil pounds with add ons. "
-KDB cost £55 or €74
-http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/33686731
-Morata cost £58 or €65.5
-http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/19/alvaro-morata-verge-completing-chelsea-move/

Get out of here with your bullshit of listing City's purchases in £'s and other teams' purchases in €'s.

EDIT: EDIT: About 10 posts down I realized that Morata cost more Pounds than KDB but that KDB cost more Euros.
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"You have signed players much more expensive than City has"

-Wrong again; KDB is more expensive than any player we've bought
-EDIT: I just realized the source I've been using doesn't have Hazard's fee listed. Anyone know what his fee was?

"You signed Torres for 50 mil pounds and at that market we were signing player for no more than 20-30 mil pounds."

-Partially true; City bought Aguero for £38 the same year we bought Torres for £50. £38 is not "no more than 20-30".

-We definitely paid a lot for Torres, but I've already freely owned up to that fact.

You have a problem with being honest. You need to step up your game.
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This wikipedia page has a list of all of the transfers and offers citations from such publications as BBC, Sky, ESPN, Guardian, and Telegraph.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers#cite_note-46

Every claim I have made in this thread has citations to back it up.
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But let's circle back around to your main argument, shall we:

"But unfortunately when clubs pay so much for a single player we have to pay 50 mil for a defender nowadays"

"we were about to get Mendy for 40 mil but when you decided to pay 67 mil for Morata, Monaco said if a bench warmer is worth 67 mil then Mendy is worth at least 50 mil you get the point of inflating the market?"

First: Monaco asked for the same price as City just spent on Walker. I'm sorry, but there is no way that price had anything to do with Chelsea.

Second: City spent £55 or €74 for KDB, making him the tenth most expensive player in history. That is more Euros than Chelsea spent on Morata, but less Poudns.

Third: Since 1992, City has the highest gross and net spending in the premier league.

Fourth: In the last 3 years, City spent an average of 30m€ on 22 players and Chelsea spent an average of 25m€ on 12 players

Fifth: In the last 3 years, City spent 666m€ on 22 players and Chelsea spent 308m€ on 12 players

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@AgueroCity
KGB is just embarrassing you, just stop lol.
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AgueroCity, only 1 of those players is still at the club lol.

Let's stick to recent transfers, shall we? Since that is where you started your ridiculous argument, let's not go keep diverting the conversation away from its main focus.

City have repeatedly paid way over the odds for transfers, and I'm not slating the club for doing it because that is how football has progressed in the last decade.

But to sit there and accuse other clubs of inflating the market when your club has played a prominent role in exactly the same exercise is opening yourself to ridicule.
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"But to sit there and accuse other clubs of inflating the market when your club has played a prominent role in exactly the same exercise is opening yourself to ridicule."

100% this.

I started my first comment by identifying that I understand Chelsea is one of the top contributors to market inflation, and I've made a few other acknowledgments of similar points. However, you still seem to be arguing that Chelsea buying Morata made Monaco charge you more for Mendy -- completely ignoring the fact that Monaco simply charged you the same amount you just paid for Walker.
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"70 mil pounds with add ons i don't know where you area getting the 65 mil euros "
-58m£ with 12m£ in addons
-58m£ is converted to 65m€

If all of Morata's add-ons trigger you will be right and he will cost 15m£ or 4m€ more than KDB.

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Question:

Every source I am seeing says:

Morata £58 or €65.5
KDB £55 or €74

So, how does 58 convert to 65.5 in one case but then 55 converts to 74? Were the conversation rates different when the transfers were made?
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@Kgb112 you are trying really hard to justify Morata's price tag but for a bench warmer that is way too much. back to the topic going by your number you said Morata 58 mil pounds and KDB 54 mil pounds hows KDB more expensive than Morata? forget about the euros we are talking pounds here! Britain is no long in the EU for you to be talking euros. BBC reported 60 mil pounds and thats the "initial" fee without add ons, so i don't know where you are getting your 58 mil from

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40667600

if you wanna go by euros? Dr Marzio reported he cost you 85 mil euros

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/chelsea-morata-is-on-his-way-to-london-the-details-of-the-agreement

i have to say you are funny when you say KDB was more expensive than Morata but then again 60mil pounds (even without add ons) > 54mil pounds
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BBC says 60m and nothing about add-ons. So your basically take pieces of information different sites based on what works for you lol!...Stop it bro dont embarrass yourself so much.

if it makes you happy....Yes City are the only club making sensible signings with amazing 50-55m cap. everyone else is inflating market and making it hard for poor city.

cheers
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"you are trying really hard to justify Morata's price tag"
-Show me. When have I tried to justify his price? I don't think I've said a thing about whether his price was fair or not. Not once have I said "he deserves it" or "but look at this stat of his" or "in this market it's actually fair". Not once. So again, show me.

"you said Morata 58 mil pounds and KDB 54 mil pounds hows KDB more expensive than Morata?"
- I agree with you here, and my comment before you posted this quote was asking about the odd conversions I'm seeing. I found numerous lists that listed KDB as #10 most expensive BPL player ever but they were all sorted by Euro. When I found lists sorted by Pounds he suddenly appeared as #13.
-My hunch is that KDB's price was actually €74m at the time of his transfer and Morata's was actually €65.5m but that the conversion rates mess everything up. Basically, the Pound was weaker at the time of Morata's transfer than at KDB's

"i don't know where you are getting your 58 mil from"
-I posted links in several of my comments. Here they are again:
1. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/19/alvaro-morata-verge-completing-chelsea-move/
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers#cite_note-46



@Kgb112 Morata was 67 mil pounds here is more proof

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-alvaro-morata-bayern-debut-10868131

67 mil pounds > 54 mil pounds

I have also noticed you like to add and subtract 2 pounds here and there to make your argument look better Aguero was 36 mil pounds and not 38 just like you did with Morata's price but anyways that link above shows with add ons Morata is 67 mil pounds

@Bazinga "stop embarrassing yourself?" read Kgb112's last comment even he admits he made several mistakes in his posts

@Bluffmaster act professional man, you are acting like a 13 year old behind a computer
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This has been a mess, so to summarize:

#1. I'm happy to acknowledge that Morata (58-60m depending on source) cost more £'s than KDB (55m)

#2. At the same time, KDB (74m) cost more €'s than Morata (65.5m)

#3. Regardless, Monaco asking for £50m for Mendy had more to do with City having signed Walker for the exact same price just 10 days earlier than how much Chelsea paid for Morata

#4. I'm happy to acknowledge that Chelsea has been a major, "top-5 worst" contributor to inflation, are you willing to admit that about City?

#5. No team in the Premier League has a higher net OR gross spend than City since 1992
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Ultimately:

With changing currency values and conversion rates I find myself unwilling to engage in this type of argument again.

Anyone more skilled in this area able to adjust these rates and give us a definitive top-10 most expensive BPL transfers?
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I think we need to choose one source and agree on it. BBC?

Different sources are giving before or after add-ons as they like. I'm pretty sure your Mirror post quoting 67m Pounds is saying after add-ons which is actually less than other sources I'm seeing that say 58m pounds + 12m addons = 70m pounds total.

Same thing with Aguero. Here is the source I used that does quote 38m pounds:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/jul/28/sergio-aguero-manchester-city
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"read Kgb112's last comment even he admits he made several mistakes in his posts "

- I think we both have. I blame it on different sources citing costs either before or after addons.

- I apologize for any place I misunderstood you. When you were saying 67m I thought you mean Euros not Pounds. So I thought you were saying Mendy cost you 50m pounds and using 67 Euros for Morata as evidence. Again, I apologize for getting that wrong.
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No worries mate. I was quoting everything in pounds since Britain is no longer in the EU. But KDB again was 54 mil not 55 mil. You also have to keep in mind that when City signs a player papers like to boast the price higher than it is. For example every paper said Mendy cost us 52 mil pounds but now after the deal is completed reports are coming out that he actually cost 49.3 mil. Perhaps the club released the actual fee? i don't know.

Market is inflated when a major sum is paid for a single player. To prove this, when Bale was sold to Madrid every coach every agent every paper said it won't be long before we see a 300 mil transfer. That one transfer inflated the market. Every time there is a huge sum paid for a single player the market shakes. Inflation doesn't depend on paying 50 mil on 10 different players. Wether Morata cost 70 mil pounds with add ons or 67 mil pounds its a huge sum paid for a single player that was a bench warmer. He was offered to United for 75mil pounds but they though why pay that for a bench warmer when we can get Lukaku a starter with proven record in the EPL for the same price. So they dropped the price by 5 or 7 pounds for Chelsea. That said I'm personally not happy having that 50 mil cap. Our owners don't seem to be interested on splashing the cash the way Chelsea or United (even though in so much debt) are splashing at the moment. I like to see Sanchez at City even if he costs 70 mil pounds as the papers are reporting i would like to see Mbappe at City even if he costs us 143 mil pounds as the papers are reporting, but i hardly doubt that will happen. At the end of the day its who wins trophies. Most ppl will talk about that than who spent how much. Plus we are going through a major reconstruction of our team. We haven't spent like this in a while since we had guys like Kola Zabaletta Clichy etc on the team that served the team for almost a decade there was no need for signing players.
Aguerocity, facepalm... it was me who stated that and the fact was about your defence only vs the whole of arsenal in spending. Cut your losses and resign in this thread alrighty lol
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damn... I'm out of popcorn
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@Ttk86 sorry dude, didn't mean to bash your party
Any Chelsea fan thats bashing City's defence think again from the football point of view...you tried playing the same style of football as Pep under AVB and we all know what happened to your defence right?? defending 50 yards away from your goal isn't easy, defending deep is easy. Before you bash our defence think from the football point of view. Its not that we have shitty defenders its the style of football.
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but yeah love islands finished finally
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you keep your style of football horse s**t and leak goals, we'll keep our CL trophy we got from 'easy defending' lmfao. We recognized AVB is not going to work, fired him and our defense improved. Where's AVB now? idk either :)
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$100 says City get smashed on the counter again ... most probably in the first game of the season

Pep has no track record to prove his spending will result in success.
At this point it can be said without a shadow of doubt that Messi, Xavi and Iniesta were the reason for his success at Barca. At bayern he was a huge flop - took a world class team and turned it into one of cowards playing lame possesion, leaking goals everywhere. Made legends like Lahm play as a defensive mid..

Then after that debacle he has been given 500m to spend and prove his "method" works.. oh joy


"defending 50 yards away from your goal isn't easy"
LOL yeah thats cuz it is not natural, nobody needs to do that and it will only result in shambolic defensive performances.
None of the best defenders who played football defended 50 yards away from goal, defending is done by cutting the space in front of the goal and marking opponents, not losing possesion near the half way line and running back to fetch the ball out of the net.
Tactically Pep is as astute as a cucumber.

Cit under Pellegrini and Mancini were much more a force to be reckoned with than what they are currently even after spending 50m on each position.
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"Inflation doesn't depend on paying 50 mil on 10 different players"

-It seems like, at the end of the day, we just disagree on the merit of that argument. I think both huge purchases and lots of big purchases are contributors. I absolutely do not have the data to back up any sort of argument getting into how much each contributes.


"Our owners don't seem to be interested on splashing the cash the way Chelsea or United (even though in so much debt) are splashing at the moment."

-Your line of reasoning makes no sense to me here. In the last 5 years, City has the highest net and gross spending in the league. Your gross spend is £617m, while United's is £609m, and Chelsea's is £538m. Your net is near identical to United's, but 3x more than Chelsea's.

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/premier-league-clubs-transfers-net-spend-last-5-years/

I used the data on this site to figure out how much City and United have spent on average per player: https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1

First: I calculated the sum of the # of new players per season

Second: I calculated the sum of each player's transfer fee together

Third: I calculated the quotient of the sum of all the transfers by the sum of the total players to find the average cost per player.

Results: In the last 3 years, City spent an average of £27m on 22 players and Chelsea spent an average of £22m on 12 players

You bought more players and paid more for them on average.
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@Vaaz lets hope Pep doesn't make you eat your words. Enjoy your boring football. I know so many Man Utd fans that cancelled their season long tickets due to boring football thats played by Mourinho. As far as Pep's record at Bayern? do your research first, he broke every single record there was with Bayern, they won the league with 10+ games remaining in one of the season thats record. He also took the team to semis of champions league every time. The time they got hammered by Madrid? Players chose how to play that game, they told him they beat Madrid with their old style so they wanted to play the same way, which Pep revealed at the post match conference that players decided to play a different style. Again do your research first cos Pep might make you eat your words come this season.
I agree
Joeymac I still have some pop-corn.
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Initiation gone right:

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Tammy got skills on and off the pitch
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Still the greatest quote in football.

" That's great, tell him he's Pele and get him back on " _John Lambie, Patrick Thistle manager, when told that his striker did not know who he was after suffering a concussion.
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Lol, you know what would be even more crazy than that manager? If the guy actually played as good as Pele if he were told that.
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Sanchez: "I want to play in the Champions League. The decision doesn't depend on me, I have to wait for Arsenal."

While I would like to see him at City, he would be a luxury signing for us whereas Chelsea & United would really benefit from his signing.
No luxury for me, get Sanchez bench Sterling, Sanchez could teach him a few lessons, especially on finishing.

Sanchez and Aguero? What a mouth watering combo, I'd take that two piece any day.
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Eh, as per usual you're missing the bigger picture - Sterling was one of our outstanding performers last year and besides Sterling will be competing with Jesus, B. Silva, and even KdB for that position. Again, it would be nice to have Sanchez who can play in any position in the front but we have good cover there already, hence he is not a necessary signing.
^We can be the next Real Madrid, they have stars and still keeps signing stars, no matter the position, are you a world beater? We want you on our team, simple, maybe that's why they are so successful. What is it Three Champions League in a row now? I've lost count.

When a star player gets injured they have someone at thee same level to bring on, they don't feel it, don't ask me how they keep everyone happy though, that would be the only problem, unless you have success rotating like crazy.
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Sanchez would make any team better, that's no luxury imo
watch how he rejects all of us and goes PSG :)
Why did Spurs sale K. Walker? Ya they got a lot of money but they sold a player from their starting team to a rival. What does that say about there ambition and desire to win?
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Probably the same as Liverpool's ambition/desire when they sold us Sterling, except Spurs seems stronger.
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For me it's only one player, a very good player true, but it's not like they went on a selling spree removing the core of the team, most of the core players are still there and no doubt they will add more talent with the money they earned.
lol Sterling the magnificent. Thanks for the money, got Mane now :P
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Mane? oh that guy that always injured?
+3
Sterling came to City to be a bench warmer while Walker is going to be a starter. On top of that we finished 6th or 7th when we sold Sterling.
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^^ "Sterling came to City to be a bench warmer" - do you really believe this, ah LOL...

Sterling since joining us played in:
2015/2016 - 47 games (31 PL games + others)
2016/2017 - 47 games (33 PL games + others)

Not too bad for a "bench warmer":D

ScouserDan:
lol Mane the magnificent. You're welcome for the money, I'm sure Southampton will make better use of it :P
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Sterling also wanted CL which we couldn't offer at the time, while Tottenhsm finished 2nd they are potential title challengers.
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Always injured? Nope, never mentioned Sturridge or Jack Wilshere.
You know what this thread needs? -More sarcasm.
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Can someone explain to me the interest in Oxlade Chambelain? Hes never realized his potential and is basically just another wilshere. Why are Arsenal even that determined to keep him.
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He is English.
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I think he actually fits really well into their squad when they play the 3-4-2-1. Don't know if he has enough quality as a stand-alone winger or fullback, but he seems to have found his place as a decent wingback, at least when I've watched him there. That's a formation that Arsenal found success in the later part of their season, and it's a tough position to replace in the market.
Cos he goes out with that little mix bird, and they buff
Ok so I'm reading sky and I'm seeing pundits having us as favourites for the title, why every single season!?

Chelsea has a very strong squad, they won the title last season, Spurs have a talented young squad, they came close to winning two seasons now, Liverpool are strengthening and getting better each year, Arsenal has bought Lacazette, and if they keep Sanchez and Ozil they could be a threat, Manchester United have Pogba and a lot of top players and also just bought Lukaku the world class striker, so why us? We have failed so many times, I mean come on Leicester won the league before we could.

I'm starting to think these pundits are either clueless, trolls, or maybe just MCFC closet fans.
We are buying pundits. That's all. Good value, I say. Time to start buying referees. That would tip the scales lol
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We are the only EPL team in the top 10 of UEFA rankings, which is why we gonna be in the 2nd pot for the Champions league draw, no other team in the EPL has been as consistent in the Champions League for the past few years as Man City, perhaps thats why?

Plus keep in mind we had tons of bad luck last season as well....KDB hitting record posts and bars? i think he hit the post 15 times last season which is record breaking...the injuries to key players like Gabriel Jesus? the scandal with Yaya Toure's situation plus the game against Monaco we ended with 6 - 6 but the away goal rule went against us. First 10 games we won pretty comfortably
First off, because pundits are no better than me and you and everybody else on this forum. They are either bias or play safe on predictions.
City are simply favourites on paper, none of the pundits support City so they have the easy neutral ground option
They think because we spend a lot, were the favorites to win. Although this season we should be in the title race without a doubt, would be big let down if we fall out. If we can sort out the FBs and get another CB. Why not?

Although getting title now is much harder than a few seasons back. Money alone won't win anything, their are 5 other teams going for the title just as strong as City.
@Aguerocity I don't accept that bad luck excuse, if that's the case that means every season we don't win the games it's because of injuries or bad luck? No, just wasn't good enough.

Chelsea won the title the year before Liecester and after, logically pundits should be backing Chelsea, I don't get it.

@Moe, just as strong as City hence why I don't get why we are favorites after letting down the predictions season after season lol.
@Aguerocity - Dont go by UEFA ranking of only this year dude. Because Chelsea , United have missed last seasons. Apart from that over last 10 years Chelsea, United and maybe Liverpool are the only PL teams consistently in CL. City have only made 1 Semi and 1 QF in 8 CL appearance in last decade.

City are fav. because of signings and Pep ofcourse not because of some UEFA ranking.

@Silva - Chelsea are not fav. because of striker uncertainty and lack of signings so far. I hope it will change by end of transfer window
@bazinga if thats the case UEFA will change its rules when it comes to ranking and facts speak louder and fact is we are the most consistent team in the Champions league hence why we are the only EPL team in the top 10. Chelsea and United missing last seasons? well maybe you don't play good football thats why you missed last seasons? maybe we play better football thats why we didn't miss last seasons? When UEFA comes out with a ranking order they don't come up with it overnight, there is a lot of considerations and thinking and work involved before they come out with certain rules for the UEFA rankings
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@SilvaMaestro16 if you listen to Ranieri's comments after he was sacked he talked about how the season they won the league every shot they made would hit the post and go in but the following season every shot would hit the post and go out and he blamed it on bad luck and this is a professional manager we are talking. Had KDB gotten a little bit of luck and converted those 15+ posts into goals we are talking a completely different season here.
To a squad loaded with talent u guys just added Kyle Walker, Silva, Ederson, and soon possibly Mendy. In other words u improved the starting team in 4 positions. Now do u see why they are saying you will win the league?
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going by Bazinga's logic Aston Villa has won the champions league so they are more successful than man city and should be ranked higher than man city in the UEFA ranking list
True Lucas, however don't forget most of those signings will be new to the PL, no guarantee they will be a hit right off the bat.
I think the expectation is that Pep's system is going to work in the second season and that your defense will minimize its individual mistakes that were committed due to the uncertainty of the system in the first season. The attack is already good, young, and energetic. The midfield is solid, and you're adding fullbacks (Walker and Mendy) that are more athletic and better in attack than previous ones (Clichy and Zabaleta).

Of course it's all a shot in the dark when you consider the fact that Leicester won the league two years ago. Six teams can realistically envision themselves as title contenders, the hat just has to hang on someone.
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Aguerocity - ok bro city are the most successful PL team in CL. No point discussion future when you compare Villa.

Point still remains that city are not fav. because of UEFA ranking.
True Joeymac, hopefully the pundits are right this season lol.
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its going to snow in the middle of July, after all bazinga agreed with me :D
After watching Leicester win the EPL pundits are still in shock and absolutely clueless!
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