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Arsenal losing 0-2 at home in EL (half-time). Crazy, and they'll prolly beat City in the final on the weekend ha

Peak Arsenal.
Teams who beat City usually lose right before or right after. Some curse
Arsenal are just a banter club. You never know which Arsenal will turn up.

Could be a great game or we could play like clowns and get battered. There is literally no way to predict it, regardless of form or history we sometimes nail it or otherwise decide to collectively play poorly.
Unfortunately for Wenger, I don't think they'll come near beating City. Pep and the players will want this trophy and get their momentum going for the season finale.
i disagree this is the easiest chance that Arsenal will get to win a trophy, Arsenal when they turn up are tricky for any opposition to handle but they are way too inconsistent, again like Bluff said it will be classic Arsenal
Conte vs Mou in an El BUSico showdown this Sunday!!
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Wow good one
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Should be a good match, first super sunday in a while.
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Only time footy comes out is to have a dig at Utd or Liverpool. Didn’t see you around after the City/LFC match lol
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Where we lost by 1 goal away to a team we always play poorly against away? Wasnt particularly dissapointing.
I barely saw any City fans here last season ha
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People sing when they win it's normal lol
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it will be an open game, it will be like the game at the Bridge, both teams has to win
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Neither team will be happy with a draw so I think it will be an open game rather than focusing all on defense. Expecting United to win due to De Gea.
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Most likely scenarios:
0-0
1-0
0-1
1-1
Just learned this shocking story about Sukur...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/18/hakan-sukur-turkey-fallen-hero-exile
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great share, Northstream. What a crazy turn of events, how dramatically your life can change....
a United fan:

"only great teams win the treble"

Would you not classify a league title, league cup and UCL a treble no?

I think it takes special skill to win a final after the highs of a title win (FA cup) vs during the season (league cup). So in my books I classify a proper double, or treble as one that includes the FA cup.

Thoughts? A trophy is a trophy at the end of the day tho. Hard to argue with that.
pretty sure liverpool have won the league cup, league title, and CL in the same season but it didn't count as a treble. to win the treble in england you need to win the FA cup.
SIF is right...Treble is League + FA cup + CL.
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League cup, League and CL is a treble what are you guys smoking here? then why is winning all 4 of them a quadruple? in that case there shouldn't be such a thing as quadruple and nobody should ever mention the word "quadruple" SMH
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The treble in England is League, Champions league and FA cup. Smoking some facts, that's all.

Treble dosent just mean 3 trophies. It has to include the correct trophies.

League, Europa league and FA cup is not a treble.
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It's a bit of both, winning three trophies is "a treble," but it's not "The Treble." The latter is universally referred to as the league, CL, and highest available domestic cup.

Same thing with a double. United completed a double last season (EL and League Cup) but it wasn't The Double (league and FA Cup).
No, the double would be League and the FA cup or Champions league. We won two trophies last season. It wont be called a double.
Difference between proper and common nouns imo, I don't think it's wrong to say we won a double last season, but it's not The Double
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Naa, you wrong sir. There is only one double and that is The Double :)
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Booooo Joey never wrong
Now Joey ANGRY!
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Agree with Yalho on this one. Unless it is progressively the biggest trophies, the double and treble are not true ones.

Well City can still do the double :P the media says so, not me
Good to see all the English clubs doing well in Europe. Hopefully that continues. It's been a while since we've seen the English teams meet in the later stages of the competition consistently.
Utd, Spurs and Chelsea have the more difficult tests as City and Liverpool seem to have finished the Porto&Basel off in the first leg (knock on wood).

Interested to see how things go next week for Chelsea and Utd.
Chelsea definitely have the hardest draw, will be interesting to see if they are up for the task. United should be able to go through but their form hasn't been the greatest lately.
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So is the media officially done with pipping Dyche for manager of the year? that was a bizarro period of time.
Well he is top of the pack after the top 6(after not winning in the past 5 games too LOL).
I dont see why that is bizarre. He has done an incredible job with Burnley and i wont be surprised if he wins it at the end of the year.
I'd be surprised. I'd be even more surprised if Pep didn't win it, especially if he manages to get a couple trophies.
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Pep and KDB will win it probably.
I mean there is a 0% chance they finish 7th and i dont believe in commending a team thats gonna have more ties than wins.
They've done better than most teams for the money they've spend, although it says more about rest of the teams below them. Burnley hasn't won a game since December 12th, 2017. They've either drawn or lost the rest since February and are still sitting in 7th.
That's bc their whole philosophy is defend first. You focus so much on defending you forget how to score and limit you're chances you the odd counter, set piece, or opposition gifting you a goal. I don't like it personally, but if it's Burnley's identity then you that's just fine for them.
Staggering statistic.

Arsenal (45 points) are closer to the bottom (20 points) than they are to the top (72 points).

Not a dig at the Gunners :D just a crazy stat.
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Feel bad for Arsenal because they always try to play good attacking possession football. Hopefully Auba and Mikhi can come good for them and they finish in the top 4.
If Arsenal get relegated and Wenger leaves. Does that count as a victory for the Arsenal fans?
What an effort from Newcastle Jesus. Shelvey put in a display of the season.
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Newcastle should have been given a penalty and Valencia should have been sent off for that boot in Atsu's face, yet Mourinho brands Newcastle "lucky"
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To be fair, Shelvey has always been good in that role of a deep lying playmaker. He is a perfect fit for Newcastle. Nothing more, nothing less. His strength is spraying the ball to the attacking and wide players.

United were pretty bad today. Worst I've seen the red devils play in terms of heart. If SAF were leading this team he would have roasted them alive.

On a related note, Mourinho did not hold back naming the players at fault - Martial and Sanchez for not finding the net. Refreshingly - he did not make any excuses - just said it as it was, applauded Newcastle's effort and how United were at fault for the goal.
We were soulless, club should refund the away fans who travelled
Hi
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Shelvey's nickname is Newcastle Jesus? I didn't know that. I thought it was Lord V with a nose.
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So I'd be interested to see everyone's revised top 4 and bottom 3 predictions:

I'm gonna go for:

1) Man City
2) Liverpool
3) Tottenham
4) Arsenal

Bottom 3:

18) Brighton
19) Huddersfield
20) West Brom
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Yep, that could be it.
Or Man Utd instead of Arsenal.
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bot 3 :

18)Newcastle
19)Stoke
20)West Brom
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No way Man U will miss top 4, I think they will be guaranteed to finish 2nd, at this moment I say Spurs above Chelsea with the current team
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Nothing is guaranteed mate, Liverpool are out of all cups, we now finally have a full squad fit and Arsenal have solved two massive problems; getting rid of a poisonous player and getting a world class striker.

I would put money on United and Chelsea missing out. In fact, I just have
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Arsenal have solved two massive problems? what
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I'm gonna go for:

1) Man City
2) United
3) Liverpool
4) Chelsea

Bottom 3:

18) Swansea city
19) Huddersfield
20) West Brom
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Paddy, interested in why you think we'll end up dropping out. I think we've shown enough solidity and consistency as a team to be pretty effective. Barring City, we're 5 points ahead with our only real weakness being against top 6 sides. I hope you lose money mate :) As for Arsenal, wasn't Lacazette supposed to solve their striker problems? I don't see both Spurs and Arsenal making top 4
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@BearWithFish

The 1st was getting rid of Sanchez. It's well known that he had a bad effect on the changing room and was constantly berating his team-mates for not passing to him. It's a very close-knit bunch at Arsenal and that wouldn't have been appreciated.

The 2nd was getting Mkhitaryan and Aubameyang. Two fantastic players, the former just wasn't the right fit for United, the latter is in the top 5 strikers in the world (pure strikers).

@JoeyMac hey bud. You have been solid, of that there's no doubt, but Arsenal have been terrible and I reckon they're gonna make the same huge end of season push, but this time with two quality players.

Liverpool have got a quality CB in van Dyke and Salah is the game-changing player that I don't think United have at the moment (depending on how Sanchez fits in).

We at Spurs have been plagued by injuries to very key players, but we now have a fully fit squad for the first time in a long time. I expect us to make top 4 although it may be me being hopeful.

Lacazette was supposed to change that, but it is a massive difference in physicality in the Bundesliga and Ligue 1. Lacazette needs time to settle, but I can just see Aubameyang fitting in seamlessly, especially with his old buddy Mkhitaryan behind him.

Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather United get top 4 than Arsenal (seeing as they're my old enemy) but I have a hunch it won't happen. Still, I always lose more money than I gain so what do I know ;)
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In general I agree with the capabilities of the teams you've mentioned, I just think you're underestimating United's staying power at this point in time. A couple of individuals here and there aren't enough to fully overcome the body of work that teams have put in across the entire season. We already see that with VVD, he's quality but he's been exposed a bit so far by the way Liverpool defend. Not to mention the fact that we've improved too by adding Sanchez, as much of a game changer as anyone else in the league.

A collapse is always possible, especially if we decide to focus on the CL. But also keep in mind that Arsenal/Spurs/both will be losing points this weekend, tough for me to see how both get in when the gap to 2nd could be 10 by the end of the weekend. Cheers for the response, I guess we shall see
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The reason arsenal are not in top 4 right now is because defensively they are a mess. Especially when they are playing away from home.

We have been consistently second almost all season except when we were joint first at the start.
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City
United
Pool
Spuds
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Hard to see Utd not making top 4, especially with Arsenal taking its place. 11 points between the teams, a tall mountain to climb at this point. If utd keeps dropping points at the rate they've been going this season, we'd have to have a flawless end to the season - not happening.
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1) Man City
2) Man Utd
3) Tottenham
4) Liverpool

Bottom 3:

18) Stoke
19) Huddersfield
20) West Brom
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Ok maybe I was wrong about Arsenal
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cant change after a game Paddy...stick to your predictions :P.

How could you even pick them for top-4 ahead of united who are 11 points better with 10 games to go?.
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City
Spurs
United
Liverpool

Newcastle
Huddersfield
WBA
Same as Bazinga for me as well.

1.City
2.United
3.Liverpool
4.Chelsea


Bottom 3

18.Stoke
19.West brom
20.Huddersfield
Dammit...
Still 11 points ahead of Arsenal Joey Chill
1.City
2.Liverpool
3.Chelsea
4.Tottenham

Bottom 3

18.Southampton
19.Stoke
20.West Brom
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Premier League: Winter break under discussion before new TV deal

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42954835
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They shouldn't change it, it's one of the features that make PL unique
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I don't want to see a full stop, but something needs to be done. Maybe that's just 2 games per club during the holiday week, more spread out. That way we'd get football pretty consistently, but we wouldn't be burning players out with 6 games in 19 days.
+1
Well it says the break will happen in January so it wont affect the Christmas/New year fixtures. Maybe just have the cup games played and have league games on break in January.
Lack of a break isn't doing the players or league any favors. I support the idea of a 2 week break


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Top Goalscorers

 
H. Kane
23
Mohamed Salah
22
S. Agüero
21
R. Sterling
15
J. Vardy
13
R. Lukaku
12
Roberto Firmino
12
E. Hazard
11
W. Rooney
10
Álvaro Morata
10

Seeing Red

J. Shelvey
3 2
S. Francis
7 1
A. Carroll
6 1
J. Hogg
5 1
W. Ndidi
5 1
C. Schindler
5 1
I. Gueye
5 1
M. Zeegelaar
4 1
David Luiz
4 1
Fàbregas
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Premier League Table

Form
PTS
GD
GA
GF
L
D
W
Pl
Pos
72
59
20
79
1
3
23
27
1
56
32
19
51
5
5
17
27
2
54
30
31
61
3
9
15
27
3
53
26
23
49
6
5
16
27
4
52
28
24
52
5
7
15
27
5
45
15
36
51
8
6
13
27
6
36
-3
24
21
9
9
9
27
7
35
-1
40
39
10
8
9
27
8
34
-14
46
32
11
7
9
27
9
31
-10
41
31
12
7
8
27
10
30
-10
47
37
13
6
8
27
11
30
-12
46
34
11
9
7
27
12
28
-11
36
25
13
7
7
27
13
28
-14
36
22
11
10
6
27
14
27
-17
42
25
12
9
6
27
15
27
-17
37
20
14
6
7
27
16
27
-24
47
23
14
6
7
27
17
26
-12
40
28
11
11
5
27
18
25
-26
53
27
14
7
6
27
19
20
-19
40
21
13
11
3
27
20
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