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RIP Big Sam

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/26/exclusive-investigation-england-manager-sam-allardyce-for-sale/
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Is he really that dumb? Makes you wonder how much of this goes on in English football
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All big fat talk, nothing on the pitch. England should take a hike, no one wants to watch them play anyways.
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I was just reading that article. I just don't believe why he even bothered to meet them. I mean some "investors" who work for some company in the Far East looking to profit from the PL transfers. How that didn't raise him and his agents suspicion is beyond me but I guess when their offering him 400k, he easily drops his guard and throws out the secrets.

Even if was part of some shady business, its pretty darn embarrassing to go out like that. I means say what you will about Roy Hodgson but at least Roy isn't this stupid.
Doesn't sound like he broke any rules, just showing bad judgement but not necessarily a stackable offense unless there is evidence he was doing something illegal or hiding conflicts of interest from the FA.
^I read somewhere it was to do with circumventing third-party ownership issues.

Apparently third party deals were banned by FA and Sam is allegedly on tape saying that it isn't an issue if a player is under third-party ownership as there are ways to get round that and make the transfer happen.

The payment was, according to the Telegraph (as reported by BBC), for him to negotiate a deal and offer advice on how to get round the issue.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37479135
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The fact he attended this meeting shows guilt in itself and I am saddened how he refers Roy Hodgson by calling him Woy in reference to his speech impediment is very unprofessional. Whilst people on here and other fans joke about it but for another manager to do it is pretty low.

He should go, this is real bad publicity for England and they don't need another reason to be put under the microscope.
Yeah that's like saying there are loopholes in the system. Exploiting loopholes isn't necessarily a crime, it might be, might not. I don't know in this specific case. In either case he's followed the rules, so he hasn't done anything wrong as far as I am aware, he just said he knows agents get away with this stuff all the time.

Again I think the question is about his judgement and potential conflicts of interest. It is embarrassing but as of yet I don't know if he's said or done anything illegal.

DT I think it looks bad on the surface and is a pr nightmare but I'm not sure it is as big a scandal unless there is proof of corruption or hiding conflicts of interest. Depending on the probes I'm not sure he would ve sacked right away. I'm willing to bet there is no law about being hired as a consultant
Sam says he was lured into the meeting under false pretences of meeting some Chinese business man. I watched some of the clips, IDK if he is in the wrong.

Well seems like a bit of a grey area, he is just talking about how he knows certain agents are circumventing these rules. If you ask me, so would any other manager tell you.

I think to fire him on this alone is gross injustice. He has not said any particular method or way to circumvent these rules, just that he knows it is being done.

It is the same as a bank manager telling you he knows fraud happens sometimes in the bank. Or the Prime Minister telling you yeah murders happen in the country. Should they all be fired too?

I havent read the whole transcripts or anything, these were just the videos I watched and seems like Telegraph are trying to ruin his career, expect nothing less from that sorry media outlet.
Sounds like he will either quit his job or will be sacked; announcement soon!

Sam Allardyce has parted company with the FA

Wow he will never manage a football club again in England in order to gain a quick 400K; it's ridiculous.
Allardyce will go down in history as the greatest England manager of all time with his 100% win record.
Manager of the month?
Player of the month?
Goal of the month?
Bilic
Kone
Cech vs Arsenal

*troll face*
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Manager: Guardiola followed by Koeman
Player: De Bruyne
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Impossible to choose goal of the month, there have been so many beautiful goals.
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Kloop
Henderson
Henderson
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Guardiola / Klopp
De Bruyne
Henderson
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Gray against United, that was a pretty good one.
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i think i agree with diablo ;)
No love for Xhaka vs Hull :(
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Klopp
I would say between Milner and Costa, maybe Antonio too
Henderson
Manager: Xhaka vs Hull
Player: Xhaka vs Hull
Goal: ... Henderson

:D
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lol ^ xhakas goal in the efl cup was better :p

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It was deflected wtf xD
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no deflected goals for goal of the month
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Lol but the keeper still could not keep it out, the power fok ma life.
Poor Yaya is caught in the middle of his agent vs pep...

http://www.football.co.uk/manchester-city/yaya-toures-arrogant-agent-has-taken-dispute-with-pep-guard/7793490/

What do you all think of Pep stirring up Man City so roughly? Replacing Pellegrini after Pelle signed an extension, kicking Hart to the curb, completely making an example out of yaya in this saga...is he overstepping his boundaries a bit or is it all for the better of the club?
Just look at how the team is performing. That should give you the answer.
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his agent been talking s**t for a while (birthday cake incident) and some of the things he has said is hilarious.

Pep actually asked the agent to apologize to the club not to him.
Pep is setting a great precedence, this will help the entire league as a whole - agents cannot talk crap all the time. They need to know their place.

Also, Pelle being fired is not Pep's fault he has nothing to do with that. He was brought in to play his style of football - he is doing that. He also mentioned repeatedly that he respects all the players (hart, yaya) and that loaning Hart has been the most difficult decision of his career. He is doing what he has been brought in for - and we can all see that the team is benefitting.

Removing Yaya has released Fernandinho and midfielders like KdB and Silva around him. The city midfield looks a completely different beast this time around even before Pep's philosophy setting in. If only Pellegrini could do what was required last year.
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Pep never liked Yaya from the beginning. Pep benching Yaya isn't a surprise. It's not to bad for Yaya though. He is getting 250k a week for sitting on the bench like a boss.
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All this makes me actually like Pep even more. He's being proactive for the sake of the club, nothing wrong with that. Hopefully we're about to see Mourinho do the same with Rooney... although I bet the consensus reaction will be different in the football community: "Mou tears up United squad" etc etc lol
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This guy Seluk cannot just shut his mouth. What a complete bellend

No agent has the right to tell a manager what to do or what not to do, whom to pick etc. What Seluk is doing is shamelessly silly. And it is even more ridiculous that Yaya has not asked him to shut his damn mouth already. Even Today this buffoon agent has said some BS that City should fine Pep for not playing Yaya, is he for real?

Toure knows Pep preferred Busqs over him at Barca, when Yaya was at the peak of his career he still could not find his way into Pep's side, why would Pep pick a grandpa Yaya now instead of other young players who deserve their chance? Yaya was a problem for City last season inasmuch his mobility and lack of pressing really affected their play and for Pep it is a no go.

The more this s**t drags on the more annoying it will be. City should just fire Yaya for his agent's tirade and because Yaya did nothing about it. The moment this agent let fly, Yaya if he had any respect for the manager or the club should have publicly told the agent to zip it or fired the agent himself. Instead his silence has encouraged the agent feed more rubbish to the press who love eating this s**t up.

Some of the agent's quotes : "Pep should win the Champions League at Sunderland to prove himself". "Pep has won nothing, Yaya is City's best. Pep is a good coach but his personality is s***". Wtf are these childish statements ffs

Joe Hart took the cue to move on, Bastian who has been wronged by Mourinho still displays tremendous professionalism. Once a footballer cannot behave professionally and requires his agent to talk for him in the press, he becomes nothing more than a rabid dog for the team's cause.
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@Shay, its for the better of the club. Pep made some tough decisions but its working so far, so I think his certainly not crossing the line at all. He knew Hart didn't fit his system, so he had to make the tough decision and loan him out. Now after seeing how intense Pep playing style is in terms of effort and consistency, Yaya can't cope with the demand that is expected of him. He'll just turn into the liability he was last season. I'm glad a Pep can see that because Pellegrini was oblivious to it.

As for Yaya agent Seluk. The man is a classless pig. Really no shame whatsoever for the club that literally pays him( From City to Yaya to Seluk) and the player he represents. Yaya and Pep's relationship seems fine but its Seluk that's trying to make it look like something its not. I'm sure Yaya deep down knows why his not playing for City and fair play if his willing to see out his contract but its the mouthy moron of an agent that's destroying Yaya's reputation. I don't understand why Yaya doesn't say anything but I have heard that Yaya respects and cares for his agent so much that he even named one of his sons after him. His probably not saying anything out of respect but at this rate, the club will push Yaya out in January because all this media attention is unnecessary.
@Vaaz I know this is besides the point by why do you say Mou wronged Bastian? Mourinho told Bastian he is not in his plans. Nothing wrong in it. Just a professional decision.
After Bastian first season, I think most of us saw that Bastian was well past it. Mou coming in only confirmed it, I don't think Mourinho wronged him. Bastian seems like a fan of Utd and did say he wanted to play for them, its unfortunate that he came to play now during the end of his career because his a world class player.
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Right now Pep showed he doesn't care whether you're a club legend or not if you're not performing you out.

I expected Mourinho to be ruthless like this but it seems he doesn't want to upset the dressing by completely getting rid of Rooney. On form he should be no where near the starting line up.
Mou wronged Basti because he has shown poor judgement, didnt even give him a chance to play a few minutes and show what he has got. It is absolutely shocking and smacks of ego. Especially when couple of games United were totally over run in the midfield, there was nothing to talk about there in the middle of the park

Even though Fellaini is a world beater and so much better, Bastian atleast deserved a chance, heck even Hart got to play a couple of games.

And how is Rooney still in the squad when Bastian is deemed too old, please, Bastian is alteast close to Rooney's current level if not better at the moment. Rooney is a spent force but Mou does not have the balls to cut him out, but Bastian is a German in strange waters at Manchester, not really a fan favourite either and easy pickings for Mou to impose himself at the club at the expense of a player's career. There are no two sides to this.
Aguero scored smth like 28 goals in his last 27 games. He is easily the most prolific scorer in PL history, even before Henry. His goals/game ratio is incredible for this league. And he isn't slowing his pace as he approaches Henry's number of goals either. What a player for Pep to have.
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What a player for us to have, one of our best deals along with Silva considering how ridiculous the prices of players are going for now that are not even near his level.
Aguero is an amazing player but has some way to go before being compared with Henry, Andy Cole, Lampard, Rooney (although his form now is s**t) and a long way to from the likes of Shearer. Too early to call him "easily the most prolific scorer in PL history"
He needs to stay fit for the whole season and score 30+ league goals for few seasons in a row to stake that claim. His current form is outstanding though, looks like he could score a few more goals this year. ;-)
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He is the most lets say "efficient" scorer for anyone with a goal count over 100, best goal/game ratio than Henry or anyone else. 100 is not a low threshold to start including him in that sta. Pure on statistics the statement is 100% true.

Goal/game ratio is not everything and he is yet to be reasonably compared to others you mentioned in other ways, but his scoring rate is undeniable. The challenge remains to keep this consistency over the next 2-4 years if he stays in the league and fit.
Superb player, surprised he's stayed in City this long.
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You know nothing Jon Snow
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Awesome player, different story if Suarez was still in the league.
Maybe, if Liverpool were capable of attracting Messi and Neymar to Merseyside
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I kinda think aguero is better than Suarez, suarez is just more durable. The worst thing about aguero is he misses atleast a month of the season from injury
We never wanted them anyway
Well that's just foolish!
Seems we are going to get well aquainted with our neighbours this season, first the PL now the EFL Cup, it's almost like they want to give United a second chance at redemption or humiliation, look out for us being paired up in the FA Cup lol.
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Looks like Pep comes down to EPL to haunt the eye gauger..
I wonder what kind of excuse Mourinho will make when his higher valued squad got beaten again by a team who is "buying success".
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It will be interesting to see which B team is better. Bring it on!
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why are you using "quotation marks" ;)

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mad because can't buy anyone..lol
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City still spent more than us this summer though so i don't see your point. Besides Liverpool are one of the top spending teams in the EPL with nothing to show for it.
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Let's see if Mourinho makes the same mistake he did with his line up
Pep will win again
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lol
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I don't think United were humiliated, can't wait to see Jose get his revenge.
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^^^this is clever
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^Lol
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Lol I forgot this page existed..

Hello everyone
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It's gotten live this past week, tends to get that way when United lose :) #turnup
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@Joey United is a win win team. If they win - means we get to see some good football/goals (from the big guys). If they lose, then people move to twitter feeds with popcorn. Either way it is entertainment
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Ha, for you maybe :D
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Haha i obviously enjoy good football more but I've been clutching at straws.. er twitter when there is nothing going on. Honestly though - too much negative press coverage cringes you out. This whole Mourinho/Pep/Yaya/Bastian nonsense is annoying me to no end

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Whereas Dortmund have scored 17 in 3 games lol
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Yeah but 4 of our 7 games have been against Arsenal, Tottenham, Leicester and Chelsea. Say pretty good.
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Tbf vs Arsenal, our centre back were Holding and Chambers. Scoring past 4 vs them isnt the hardest thing to do (not taking away the great wins you got btw)
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wins a wins xgoon give'em credit :P
Tbf your "1st choice" center backs would have a hard time with Mane
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lol yeah scouser Koscielny and mert shut out Bayern at home last year but Mane would really scare them
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^Lol, Mane>Bayern.
Pretty impressive. That's one game lol
So is it safe to say City got this wrapped up? Last season in the PL they were 5 wins from their first 5 games and zero goals conceded, playing really amazing football. They were beasting it and then injuries, pep announcement etc happened and they just fell apart throughout the season.

I think this year they have a much better squad and depth. And Pep making them play really well, like last year. I can't see them makin the same mistakes as last season. Only team I can see coming close is Arsenal.
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LOL Arsenal to come close?

We will probably do what we always do - compete at the top for a few months, stutter and stumble and rally towards the end of the season, ultimately finishing about 10 points adrift of the eventual winners.

On the basis of these 5 weeks, City will walk this season and nobody will come close.

Its September lads. The teams playing the best football are City, Everton and Liverpool. But facts remain and the ebb and flow of the season is absolute.
I'm confident enough to bet on city to walk away with PL title this season.....IMO Arsenal might finish 2nd followed by Liverpool/Chelsea/united/Spurs to fight for 2 spots.
City won the first 5 games last season. Leicester won the league.


Is there any point predicting the Prem anymore other than Arsenal finishing top 4
yep, I agree with you Baz.

In fact, I'm so confident I'll bet my DP for a week.

*Cough* Xgooner - time to get some revenge, amigo? :)
Betting is bad deffy. I've learnt my lesson
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Random fan (usually from a team that isn't doing the best) says: "Guys so [insert team that is beasting] will probably steamroll this league and win it early."

Fan from team that is beasting says: "Its [insert month here] lads, long way to go."

Every season.
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Looks like Man City will steam roll the World Cup
City will win the election this year
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City will also separate from Britain this year. #CitXit
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I'm happy
If you're happy and you're glad you clap your hands~
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*clap clap*
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If youre happy and you know it and you really want to show it,

DIX OUT 4 HARAMBE
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btw booba i didn't know you're famous :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxJ6kZwaymY
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Not seeing any dicks out guys
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Reading news that Mourinho called Walter Mazzarri a 'donkey' during his Serie A days. Not sure how true this is - but stuff like this comes up when the chips are down.
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Yeah but they cleared that up after Mazzari got the job at Inter (I think that's what sky sports said lol)


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