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not football/BPL related but seems dat this page is the most active in FT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1glM0LgjCOY

*those who considered themselves as "90's kids/teenager" would appreciate this. Its a trip down memory lane :)
Rooney to Arsenal maybe? ;) Or maybe he's off to France?
It seems like PSG's been the club most interested in him.
Rooney should go to Juventus.
That's actually not a bad shout. Juve don't really have top striker so he'll get to play in his fav position. But Rooney has hard time understanding English let alone Italian..lol
It would be way more interesting if he went to Arsenal.
The league will be very interesting if he plays for arsenal next season
I don't think he'll go Arsenal or Juve...they wouldn't want to match his 200k per week salary...
And how are Arsenal gonna pay his 180k/w salary plus 20k-25k in performance related bonuses...if i am not mistaken Arsenal's highest earner is Lukas Podolski at 110k/w so unless they break their wage structure i don't see it happening.
He can take a pay cut. Btw they can they choose not too.
I want him to stay at United. Poison them from within.
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Why the hell would we be even remotely interested in him?
Monaco maybe?
Even a move to chelsea sounds feasible, mourinho might like him.
i would be glad with Rooney addition into the team, what's more he's the type of player dat suited Conte tactical approach...but not sure if Juve can meet his wage demand so i guess its not happening
If Rooney goes to Italy his fate would probably something similar to Gazza. A broken jaw and leg and maybe a sad end to his career. PSG is the best place for him.
Best Manager of the Season: Sir Alex Ferguson
Best Keeper of the Season: David De Gea
Best Defender of the Season: David Luiz
Best Midfielder of the Season: Juan Mata
Best Striker of the Season:Luis Suarez
Biggest Flop of the Season: Antonio Valencia
Most improved player of the Season: Fernando
Torres
Star of the Season: Gareth Bale
goal of the season : RVP or Lowton
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koscienly for best defender, hes too much of a boss
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and most improved player would be david luiz for me, other than that i agree with everything else
Torres did have a better overall year, but if this is just based off of Premier League performance, he hardly merits the title of being most improved. 6 goals in 32 league apps last year compared to 8 goals in 36 apps this year isn't a huge improvement for a striker.

Also, I would give the defender of the season to Vertonghen or Zabaleta over Luiz.
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It's not an improvement at all...
If the status of defending in the PL is when the best defender is considered to be Luiz...something is not right. I could name atleast 10 defenders better than him in the PL.
He is a good player and a very likable one at that but if you think he is the best defender in the PL you're having a laugh....he's not even the best defender at Chelsea let alone the PL.
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^ what joey said.

Bale improvement alone dwarfs torres'.
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Best Manager : Steve Clark
Best Defender : koscielny
Best Midfielder : Carrick
Best Striker : RVP
Goal of the season: Suarez
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Best Manager of the Season: Sir Alex Ferguson
Best Keeper of the Season: David De Gea
Best Defender of the Season: Rafael/Vertonghen/Koscielny
Best Midfielder of the Season: Juan Mata
Best Striker of the Season:Van Persie
Biggest Flop of the Season: Antonio Valencia
Most improved player of the Season: Ramsey/Rafael
Star of the Season: Gareth Bale
goal of the season : RVP vs Aston Villa
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Yaldho I agree with urs the most except for that Carrick part. Swap that with Mata and its perfect.
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If Bale is star of the season he should also be best midfielder
He's not a midfielder though
Crazy when you think he started at LB^^
Torres most improved player? No he struggled to score in the league while he was finding easier to score in other competitions.
Soundtrack has it right almost.
matthew lotwtons goal was a beauty though come on lets be honest
Torres' first goal in the league since December was against Everton.
Stoke have confirmed Tony Pulis was sacked last night after 7 years at stoke
he is started to get hang of football, and started forgetting about rugby tactics
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lol when they stopped playing rugby and started playing football they were closer to relegation.
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no worries, teams like British & Irish Lions would be lining up to sign him
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No.
For All those foolishly declaring Tottenham a one man team.

Bale has 21 goals, 4 assists this season in the league (totenham had a total of 66 goals)
RVP had 26 goals, 8 assists (Man U had 86 total goals)
Suarez had 23 goals, 5 assists (Liverpool had 71 total goals)
RVP on ARsenal last year had 30 goals, 9 assits (Arsenal had 74 goals)

This makes the percentage of total offense for each player the following:
Bale - 37.9%
RVP - 39.5%
Suarez - 39.4%
2011-2012 RVP - 52.7%

And if your adjusted the numbers so that assists are only 1/2 a goal, Bale would still be last in total percent of the offense.
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Here is a stat that triumphs all those stats..

Tottenham have won only 1 match since new year in which Bale didn't scored...and that too just a week ago against Stoke who were safe from relegation.

As much as you want to bring up the stats you can't deny all those late winners he has scored in the 1-0 and 2-1 wins.

v Sunderland 1-0 Bale 89th min
v Southampton 1-0 Bale 86th min
v City 3-1 Bale 82th min
v Swansea 2-1 Bale got the winner
v Arsenal 2-1 Bale got the winner here too.
v West Ham 2-3 Bale got 2 including the winner in the 90th min
v Newcastle 2-1 Bale got both goals one in the 78th min.
v West Brom 1-0 Bale with the winner again.
v Norwich city 1-1 Bale with the equalizer in the 80th min.

So yeah when you use those stats into perspective you could see why people call Spurs a one man team...you'd be literally in deep trouble forget about qualifying for CL.
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That stat comes no where close to trumping those stats. It simply means that when the team does not play well Bale does not score because the opposing team can simply focus on bale. Not to mention 4/7 games Bale did not score were against MANU, CHELS, Everton, and Liverpool.
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I think I just fell down laughing XD
I think that also has to do with what kind of goals are scored. So many of bale goals are just created out of thin air by himself.

Without RVP we wouldn't be anywhere near top 3 last season, anyone denying that is blind. I don't see why you are so reluctant to admit how important Bale is to your club. Nothing wrong with that.
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He is obviously the most important player on teh team, and we did indeed get Baled out many times. I just think it is unfair because of the quality of the rest of the team. Nobody else is calling Liverpool Suarez FC and I dont recall to Many RVP FC's last year when he was basically half of their total offense.
that always happens when you have a star, everyone else is sort of left out of the spotlight. But football is a team sport after all. But sometimes it takes one special person to really push the team over the line.

oh common man. you should have spent more time on our forum last year and I'm sure liverpool fans will be here soon with their comments about suarez fc :D
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lol Elliot, wake up
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haha just admmit spurs is a one man team,
"It simply means that when the team does not play well Bale does not score"

Lol @ that ...if anything it means the opposite of what you said..when your team is not playing well its when Bale swoops in and saves the day as i pointed out in those stats. Bale FC exists in reality whether you like it or not.
NEVER!!

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He is like Super man for your team. He saved you guys week and week out. He carried the whole team on his back and guided the club to 5th place(almost 4th if it wasn't for that Arsenal win). You are discrediting him by making that statement, which is disappointing since you are a Tottenham fan.
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I am not discrediting him at all!! I am trying to give more credit to the entire team.
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In fact, I think there were plenty people calling Arsenal a one-man team last year.
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Go home Elliot, you're drunk.
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he is trying to attribute some of the credit to the rest of the team. maybe it came out a little wrong but ain't nothing wrong with that.
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Nothing wrong with having a big player that dig's you out of trouble when you need, Elliot your defending Spurs and making it look like Bale is an average player and it's Spurs that make him good.

Just about every team in the BPL would love to have Bale in their side, he is a game changer and there are very few players like that in the BPL.

Sure when he has a quiet game or is off form it can be more of a burden on the team when you are expecting fireworks and he does not deliver it puts a strain on the side, teams that have players with the capability that Bale does, often look for him to produce so the majority of the attacking play goes through him, it's why he gets so many chances to deliver his magic.

At Man United and Liverpool, RVP and Suarez respectively are target men in attack, get the ball to them and they will score more often than not.

Bale is a huge asset to Spurs and they have done very well to nurture his talent this far, he is a cracking player and they will do well to hold onto him in the off season.
DAMN IT ELIOT! YOU'RE MAKING US LOOK BAD! ;)

Seriously though, Bale has been outstanding for us this season... However, what people don't see (due to Match of the day missing out the boring parts) is the 80 minutes in which Bale does nothing in many games. I'm not saying all of them, because that would be untrue, but in many games.

Prophet, looking at your list:

Sunderland - We should have had 3 penalties by then and been about 6-1 up.
Southampton - Literally didn't see him for the entire match.
City - We were already 2-1 up at that point and it was the ball from Huddlestone that was special.
Swansea - He was fantastic that match. Had an absolute blinder. However, the goal wasn't a late one and it was a great team performance.
Arsenal - It was the ball from Sigurdsson that was special. Also was early on. It was our defensive pairing of Dawson and Vertonghen that was special that match.
West Ham - I admit, that must have been Bale's best game. Two great finishes (one of which was fantastic) and tested Jaskelainin (I have no idea how to spell it) countless numbers of times.
Newcastle - Ran the show. Had one of his best games. Although, he was poor to the team's build up play, and we struggled to break them down due to his urge to run or shoot from distance. Sigurdsson would have had a consistent impact (although those two goals from Bale were fantastic).
West Brom - Literally forgot who Bale was until he popped up with the goal. It was Lennon that terrorised their defense.
Norwich - One of our lesser performances. Once again, he disappeared for 80 mins and then popped up with an outstanding goal.

What I'm saying is that although he undoubtedly makes the difference, he also has a massive tendency of disappearing in matches. Now we have two players in Holtby and Sigurdsson who are steady players who don't disappear and have a constant impact on the game. Bale being played centrally deprives them of a chance to play (not that I'm complaining).

However, Prophet, I think you've approached this in the wrong way. Van Persie has scored 30 goals and assisted 15 to your season. What Eliot was saying is that Bale has scored 26 goals and assisted 15 to our season.

Now the fact that RVP doesn't disappear for most of the game, but is great at bringing others into play suggests he's been of absolute paramount importance to your season.
However, unlike you, I'm not naive enough to call you RVP FC because I recognise that you have talents such as Kagawa, Rafael, Vidic, Rooney etc that are extremely important to your team and are all fantastic players. What you haven't recognised is that we have Dembele, Lennon, Vertonghen, Sandro (albeit injured) and Dawson who have also been great for us.

Its just a shame that yourself and KingLucas have talked about "Bale FC" and "Bale carrying the team on his back" when you both have Suarez and RVP who are equally important to your team.


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@Prophet88, the problem with looking at this issue like that is, you are assuming if Bale wasn't scoring, no one else would be scoring which is simply not true.

Anyone who watches Tottenham frequently can see that Bale this season has imbalanced Tottenham's attack. Tottenham's attack comes from the counter. Lennon is a great player for that and Bale used to be too but now he stays inside, crowding the midfield, giving no room for players like Adebayor or Sigurdsson to operate. Tottenham with a lack of wide players struggles. We saw this when Lennon was injured for periods in the second half of the season. If Bale played out wide left and continually put crosses in while beating defenders, I guarantee you that this team would have scored more goals.

Bale often does nothing for 80 minutes then pops up with a magical goal which turns out to be the winner. People only focus on the fact that he scored while ignoring the fact that he was contributing nothing and in fact was hampering the team's attack for the majority of the game. No one is questioning the fact that he is a great player and a great striker of the ball. The reality is though, that even without him, we would still be challenging for CL places (think about Townsend playing on the left for us and feeding Defoe who is a better finisher than Bale or Adebayor who has an advantage in the air).
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Remember also our defense kept us in the position where Bale can win the match with a moment of magic. No team is a one man team.
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Bale has scored a lot of late winners though, come on lets be honest
22 - Gareth Bale's goals have won 22 points(now 24 I think) this season in the Premier League, only Robin van Persie's have won more (26). Influence.

@Prophet88: Are you saying Manchester United is a one-man team too then? :P
If Spurs fall in the definition of 1 man team then most certainly United does too, eh?
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@Knownskate, why does that matter though? Why is it important? Doesn't every team's best attacking player score a lot of winners?
the reason i fundamentally think the spurs and utd situations are different is due to depth. spurs lose bale, they are f****d, and most of those points he won would be down the drain since their strikers and other midfielders are not continuously chipping in with goals.

same for liverpool and suarez, but probably worse- at least in the begining of the season

united on the other hand have two other premier league-proven goal scorers (wayne rooney, javier hernandez) who could share the burden of rvp loss, not to mention kagawa (17 goals last season for dortmund) and welbeck (who chipped in with 10 goals last season when he was playing striker).

actually, last season we scored more goals without RVP than we did this season with him, so you can make an argument that we would find a way to cope

spurs on the otherhand, with an unmotivated ade, an injury-stricken defoe, and no VDV, would be hard pressed for another matchwinner.
@SIF: Well, RVP left Arsenal last season and they were f****d, apparently. Arsenal went on to score more points this season compared to last when they had the so-called one-man army. So, your fundamental reasoning clearly doesn't hold true. :P

EDIT: Er.. It's simple if we didn't have Bale, someone else would have been playing. Just like in RVP's case at United. You can't really say that United strikers would have compensated for the 26pts completely that United won without RVP, same goes for Bale.
Since the ambitions of both teams are different, then either both teams are 1-man teams or not. Make up your mind based on the facts. :)
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This may not be immediately related to the Premiership, but soon may be relevant.

I read plenty of posts on here about how 'Mourinho leaves behind a trail of destruction'. This is a nice piece that appreciates what he actually leaves behind.

'The structure of the club you created will hopefully carry on without you, and that's the biggest legacy you give to Real Madrid. You won our 32nd Spanish Liga title and our 18th Copa del Rey, both against Pep Guardiola's FC Barcelona, but the British way of managing a club is far more important than titles. Real Madrid was stuck in the 20th century when you arrived but you were able to change that and make the club move into the 21st century. Let's hope Florentino Pérez respects that legacy.'

http://www.managingmadrid.com/2013/5/22/4354656/open-letter-jose-mourinho

The next manager at Madrid would do well to follow what Managers (barring AVB) did at Chelsea. If it is Carlo, then expect him to not tinker too much at Madrid, and success will flow.
With a quote about "respect" and "legacy", I have no idea how one could defend Mourinho if those two things are of any importance.
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Damn amazing interview with Klopp:

"Shinji Kagawa is one of the best players in the world and he now plays 20 minutes at Manchester United – on the left wing! My heart breaks. Really, I have tears in my eyes. Central midfield is Shinji's best role. He's an offensive midfielder with one of the best noses for goal I ever saw. But for most Japanese people it means more to play for Man United than Dortmund. We cried for 20 minutes, in each others' arms, when he left. One year before that Nuri Sahin went because Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world. [Sahin is back at Dortmund after just four appearances for Madrid and an unhappy loan spell at Liverpool]. If players are patient enough we can develop the team into one of the biggest in the world."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/21/jurgen-klopp-borussia-dortmund-champions-league
+9
Kagawa should go back to BVB
+14
Got to appreciate Klopp. Such a likable manager!
+7
He aint going nowhere. Saying that, i hope to see his best next season. With may be Rooney leaving, he might get that CF spot for himself. He is such a classy player and he is world class.
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every time he talks about shinji in the media, shinji scores a goal. the last time he said something, shinji scored a hattrick vs norwhich lol.

shinji was getting plenty of gametime in the beginning of the season, but after his 2-month injury, he's been rotated heavily.

we're probably going to sell rooney, so there will be more space for him next season. it would be difficult for any player to bench rooney, especially since he's been here for 9-10 years and is a senior player.

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i wonder if he regrets leaving BVB sometimes
+3
http://epltalk.com/2013/05/01/69-of-tweets-about-gus-johnsons-barca-bayern-commentary-were-negative/

this quack gonna do the champions league final -.-. As if pronouncing iniesta is easier than some of the German names he will have to pronounce.
Pulis to Everton please.
haha you wish.
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I remember Gerrard likening Everton style of play to Stoke City's ... so it'd be a good fit, I guess.
LOL
+2
Gerard should go get his eyes checked if he really thinks that. LOL
+3
sounds like gus poyet might be going to stoke
+2
Everton deserve a master tactician like Pulis.
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Vitor Perreira now slashed as favourites to be next Everton manager. Will be very interesting. Funny how now, not only does Mou have 3 disciples of his in the Prem as managers, but also his protege's assistant could be the manager of a premier league club xD

SSN also reporting that Martinez is considering leaving Wigan, and BBC report:@BBCSport: BREAKING: Manuel Pellegrini confirms he and his coaching staff will leave Malaga at the end of the season #MCFC
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You make it sound like all of these managers came out of Mourinho's arse. :P
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