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The CL draw:

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😃😁😀

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I expect to see a lot of hand gestures and very close talking during these games XD
I expect to see Celtic reserves play at Camp Nou so that senior players are well rested for the league.
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Very sad day for all the City fans. Hopefully Joe stays.
So Pep basically got rid of half the team?
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Well, the following are set to go

Nasri (loan to Besiktas)
Yaya - impending
Mangala - impending
Bony - impending
Hart - :(

Except for Hart the exodus of the rest should had taken place last year itself. Pellegrini did not have the courage to do it. That's exactly why Pep is here!
+5
Pep is ruthless. He got rid of Ronaldinho and Deco too when he was made the manager of Barca.
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Pep is a good manager but he doesn't have sympathy for people except for sterling which i understand because he wants to rebuild when he comes into a new club. But why does Joe have to go. I would prefer him to willy anyway regardless of that horrible world cup in the summer
Yes, but Joe may not want to be #2. That's the issue. If Joe stays I am confident he will go up the pecking order to #2, but looks like he might never become #1 whilst Bravo is there.

I personally want Joe to stay but it is selfish to think that way
Always fun to call out the relegation teams. Now that the season's begun and we've seen a glimpse at the squads who do you think will be relegated this season?

-Bournemouth
-Hull
-Crystal Palace
Crystal palace are getting benteke and Remy up front and have pardew at the helm. They're never getting relegated.

Hull, Sunderland for me.
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Sunderland
Crystal
Burnley
Remy is joining Palace too?
Sunderland are the Arsenal of the bottom battle. They don't get relegated.
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^you mean 4th placed (from the bottom) ?

muahahaha, that EPL revenue !!
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@Deffyduck lmao ;)
I just created a league first league on Footytube this season
##boobapremier
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Can someone explain how Henderson is the captain of liverpool? He's shite
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I agree that he is not captain material, especially not for a club like liverpool
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theyre havin laugh up at anfield.
Should be Emre Can imo
You can't deny that 2 seasons ago he certainly was captain material.
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The thing is - there is nobody else who could truly lead the team at the moment. Milner is not an out and out Liverpool player plus he has become a bit-part all over again.

Gerrard left a big hole in his wake in terms of leadership. Henderson is the captain purely from his liverpool past and personality traits.
Shaymoose17 - What did he two seasons back?

Tomi - If Lovren is a starter he should be captain
Lots of fans were in love with him and he boasted 6 goals and 10 assists...Penalty taker, clean cut look, England lad. I thought he was right on track. Not sure what's happened to him since then.
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It was always going to be tough for anyone to take over from Gerrard. The man set the standards so high as a player and captain.

When I think of a captain for football team. You either have to be the best player/one of the best in the team who leads by example or a vocal leader who organizes the team. Hendo is neither one. That's why he doesn't seem like a good candidate.

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I rmb when he was at top form and commanding and looked really quality... looks different now
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Maybe his character is strong , you dont know him on the pitch between his mates to identify

Maybe he is son of high profile people in the club

whatever ....
##aron ##WelcomeBack #noHomo
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He has problems with his feet which I think are really hindering him. He looks slower and weaker than he used to be and his engine was his biggest asset. Planter fasciitis.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsene-wenger-defends-arsenal-transfer-8673784

Wenger: "I'd spend £300million if I find the player"

I literally choked on my cereal when i read this.

I really feel for the arsenal fans. What right player is Wenger talking about? Not like all the players bought in the past fit the team like a fiddle. So many players on the fringes. Only the bold buys like Ozil, Sanchez have truly made a difference. In this era where not strengthening means weakening yourself, truly there has to be some change. The club deserves more. The fans deserve more. I get the honor part but what's wrong with combining that philosophy with controlled spending? Ozil and Sanchez worked out did they not?
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Still I think they can win the Epl this year, they may start slow but will finished strong, like Usain bolt😆
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Hull City has a better chance of winning the league than Arsenal with Wenger
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I am not saying they cannot win the league. There is every chance they can. The infuriating part is just that. They could have won the league a couple times but fell just short.
It's all bull. He is happy developing his players his way and the board and the owner are happy by having the best turnover in EPL I think.

They spent 10 mil last year. Is that how much a team that want to win the league after 11 years spend on players?

It doesn't matter if the fans boo either as long as the stadium is filled and the money from the highest ticket prices in England keeps coming in.
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I subscribe to the criticism, but get down to earth drogbalampard.

tomikato, I wasn't sure how to take that comment from him. If I'm not mistaken he added at the end "if I have the money", not sure the article mentioned that. I think many gooners respect the club's philosophy. When you have a base of good players that were either developed or brought in young to develop, it's hard to argue that it's a bad strategy. You can't say that wenger hasn't done wonders with the club per pound spent. But there has to be a balance, at the end of the day it's not a "who can do it cheaper" competition.

For me personally the most frustrating part is that you have the likes of ozil, sanchez, cech and u can't add someone to elevate that team. I believe last year we were a striker away from the title. Having ozil, one of the best midfielders out there, without a proper striker is like having a 1000hp engine with tires that can't handle the power. Waste of potential ....
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IMO, if Wenger doesn't make a big signing or do well this season, Ozil and Sanchez are off, I think both are in thier last 2 years and have yet to have contract talks.

All Wenger needs to do is look at United, and how a few big signings galvanized that team and thier fans, they suddenly went from top 4 hopefulls to title challengers, thats how you make a statement.
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@Illman - I did not realize Wenger said 'If I have the money'. It is very difficult to accept that he does not though, given the size of the club.

Regarding the philosophy - I have nothing but respect for it. In house players imbibed with a sense of identity has the charm which cannot be replaced by money. My only thought is imagine 'tweaking' the philosophy with one major signing every year. Surely Arsenal can manage that IMO.

Also now you have the risk of big players leaving like they have done in the past. Too many things pulling the club down. It is only testament to the real capability of the club - that so many leave and it is still where it is. Just needs a gentle push and it can become a dominant club (and naturally most revered) in the league.

I don't mean to make fun of Wenger at all - this is just frustration. It is like having a £10 million mansion without having they money to fix the driveway and the paint for it.
Two games and everyone is freaking out. Give it a bit of time, Arsenal will do just fine once they get going.
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Nobody is freaking out. This is not about the first two games. It is about the transfer policy
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I don't understand the conversation every single season. Arsene does things his own way and has been for years... all we too blind to see this old dog won't learn new tricks?
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I can see why some Arsenal fans get frustrated but if you're talking about transfer policy then there is still some days left before the window is closed.
Agreed. A grand total of 9 days before Arsene can do something about this.

I am waiting for him to do nothing so that I can post some of my favorites memes. (I am evil but believe me I am good at heart lol)
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Tomi I don't think any gunners will think it's offensive bc all we can do is laugh about it at this point. Don't hold back!
lol thx Shaymoose
Psst. Arsenal did come 2nd not too long ago...
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@Northstream. That's the whole point. 2nd with the philosophy. Tweak that a little bit and you will dominate for years. The 'just missed it' part is what is annoying everyone.
-- I think we can close this thread for now -- :P

Mustafi (in particular) and Perez are good buys, I would have loved to see Lacazette but this is better than what was expected. A 100 million transfer window is a coup.
MUHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
Not necessarily, Tomikato. What people seem to forget is that there's been plenty of tweaking and buying by other teams and their dominance has still been limited. No other team has delivered the stability that Wenger has at Arsenal during the period he's been there (except for Ferguson in his time).
@Northstream - we are not discussing 'tweaking' as a general term. Obviously it will be different for different teams. I am specifically talking about Arsenal.

We are also not talking about stability here. Arsenal has the stability nobody contested that in this thread. The idea is that they are so ready for the cutting edge and that 'little' diamond head is missing to take them to the top and win.

What I am saying is that given the consistency and platform Arsenal are actually poised to be better than most top teams in the EPL if they make just that one little extra effort. Well Mustafi and Perez are here so let's see how this works out this year.
So Suarez 17 goals in 6 games...Do you guys think he could have done that in PL?

I know playing alongside Messi and Neymar helps...but averaging 3 goals in last 6 games is sick
Nah, not in EPL
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the only question is can he do it on a cold rainy night at stoke?
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Without a doubt, he was their player best player last season. Not only for his goals, but his interplay with the rest of the team is unreal.

Suarez is in peak form. Hope he stays away from controversy because he has potential to overtake CR and Messi again in Liga.
He had a sort of green patch towards the end of last season which he seems to have carried to this.

Anyways its not like he scored 31 Goals in 33 PL Matches or neither he scored 4 goal against one team. For comparison he scored 40 Goals in Laliga with 35 games that's with having players like Messi , Neymar , Iniesta & Rakitic feeding him.

No he cant score 17 goals in 6 games against Elite defenders that PL teams have and can only score freely against Farmers of Laliga.
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Imo I don't think it's the league. Like u said it's the players around him. When u have the likes of Messi, Neymar, Inesta it is possible in any league. On top of that his finishing is insane.
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Why can it not be a result of all factors?

Better teammates and service
More personal improvement
Weaker defenders (i know this one is debatable)
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i remember after his long ass ban he came back and set the league on fire. he finished with 30 goals while missing the first few months of the season. iirc he set the record for most goals in a month in a december where i believe he had 12 goals. in terms of quality, he is definitely capable, but without top players around him it would be nearly impossible.

@malik, there isn't as much of a gap between epl teams as there is in la liga. you dont see 6, 7, 8 goals very often but barca does that monthly it seems. i dont think it's possible to get 17 in a month.
@SIF , the gap between all 20 teams is not just because PL average to poor teams are good , major reason of this smaller gap is also that top teams ( top 6 ) aren't that good ( as off late )

You put barca against PL teams and I am sure Suarez can replicate same numbers .
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Suarez can tear up any team, doesn't matter who it is.
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The best #9 in the last few years. I rate him miles above any other #9 out there.
thats not the question dan/tomi. the question is: is suarez going to score a hattrick per game over 6 matches in a row in the premier leauge. i'm gonna say no. anything's possible but that seems too ridiculous.
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I digress SIF :D

I say no way in hell will Suarez score 17 goals in 6 games in England. They will probably break his leg before he tries to do anything like that.
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I am so happy the league is back! Some defining moments from this week:

Ibra's header
Nolito's tap ins
Musa's penalty shout (50-50)
Walcott's shooting
Vokes' and Grey's finishing
Diego Costa's finish. Pure delight
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Also having Gary Neville back in MNF, not without a few jabs tho :D

Neville: "starting with Moreno is like starting one goal down"
Response: "starting with Neville as manager is like starting with one goal down"

Nah, but MNF is worth watching again.
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Tomi that was a clear penalty

And he is Gray not Grey :D
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Jesus Christ. Add Stuani's screamer to the list.
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/revealed-the-premier-leagues-top-10-filthiest-forwards-of-2016

Proof that CostaCrimes is fiction.
Anyone watching the match on Monday just needed to use their eyes for proof that Costa should have 100% been sent off. But sure, just keep trying to prove to yourself that Costa isn't dirty if it helps you sleep at night
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It's not just the number of fouls, but also the type of fouls. For instance, Martial may be on the list at #4 most fouls, but how often do you see him go in with a high boot, put in a dangerous challenge, stand over players, or have a confrontation that results in a yellow card or a player sent off?

There's a difference between being physical, committing fouls, and being dirty, even though you can have any combination of those three. Costa crosses the line and becomes an instigator more often than not.
This link gives a much better figure and as pointed out it's the nature of the fouls.

But anyhow check this link:
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/stats?competition=1&season=20150&category=DISCIPLINE&pos=Forward&team=0&isOpp=0&splitType=0&sort=5&sortOrder=0
Dude costa is the dirtiest player i know ...and i love it lol😂😂
Cost is a dirty player period
Talented player, but crosses the line. Similar to when Liverpool had Suarez!
A foul doesn't necessarily mean a player is filthy, especially in a case of a forward. It most likely means they can't tackle. By that logic Costa would be the best defender of the lot.
It wasnt what he said - it was they way he said it. lol

Btw the statistic that Naija posted doesnt "prove" that Costa is not a aggressive " dirty" player- it just puts some perspective on the whole villain portrayal he been bestowed by f.ex the press

Some might agree from ones own life experience, that when strangers go out of their way make you look like the bad guy, you tend to get pretty defensive. "Nobody puts baby in the corner style".

Everybody has their own agenda, Mourinho now working at United should bring out some good ol´ double standards hehe..

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hmm i guess Fellaini does not elbow people in the face either last season
^ Fellaini also got slapped by a Chilean half his size and head bumped by an Englishman even shorter. lol
What's happened to most people is that u have listened to too much of "Costa crimes" stories and it's been embedded in ur psyche. Yes Costa is passionate and can be confrontational but that's overblown bcos of he's a Chelsea player and also World class whom the media love to pick on.

If u go on Chelsea page u can see my post and links to confirm this biased narrative. In my years of following the premier league no Club has been as hated as Chelsea under Roman.

-Ryan Giggs had an affair with his brother's wife for years but Terry ' s affair with a team mates gf received more media attention.

-Ashley Young has been a serial diver in this league but I'm yet to see any "Ashley dives" video but Costa already has "Costa Crimes".

-Fellaini 's elbows in opponents faces has been a regular feature of his game since his Everton days but no video compilation has surfaced in that respect.

Costa grew up in a different environment from where he is now and his passion and over zealous style can be offsetting but that is who the man is and he's never broken anyone's legs or gotten sent off. Passion is a vital make up of winners and most winners are passionate people who are prone to overeacting like Mourinho, Pep, Klopp etc. The stale and inert ones never go far like Hodgson and all those who are afraid of the pc brigade. People struggle to accept what isn't part of their culture and resist it - that is what Costa is suffering. Still he scores and no wonder Atletico are ready to give anything to have him back only to be rebuffed by Chelsea vehemently telling them to back off. It is the same reason Barcelona paid their biggest transfer fee for Suarez.
Nobody goes looking for 'costa crimes'. In fact i did not know the phrase existed. We just watch the games on the weekend. It has nothing to do that he is from Chelsea.

I love Costa's talent but everyone agrees he needs to reform a part of his game including Chelsea fans


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Diego Costa
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C. Stuani
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J. Defoe
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E. Capoue
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Nolito
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L. Fer
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B. Watson
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L. Gooch
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Diego Costa
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J. Evans
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V. Behrami
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D. Lovren
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R. Shawcross
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3
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1
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6
5
1
1
1
3
10
3
0
2
2
1
0
1
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11
3
0
2
2
1
0
1
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12
3
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4
2
2
0
1
3
13
3
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4
2
2
0
1
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14
2
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4
2
1
2
0
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15
1
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5
3
2
1
0
3
16
1
-2
3
1
2
1
0
3
17
1
-3
6
3
2
1
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5
2
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19
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6
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