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This is not football related, but I will post it here so everyone( most club fans) can see it. I just found it so interesting and odd at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO_Q_f1WgQI

Does this make sense to anyone?
I strongly recommend listening to the Co-ownership part of this podcast it should be implemented more it really opened my eyes to how some of the clubs in Italy are balancing out because of Co-Ownership deals!

http://www.footytube.com/forums/the-stands-general-footy-banter/serie-a-modcast-season-review-and-a-look-at-co-ownership-28232/

feed back appreciated!
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So is Reina really leaving Liverpool? Cuz, if and when Mignolet joins, I put my money down that his going to take that No.1 Gk position from Reina, after the season his had compared to Reina's. If Reina was to be offloaded were would he be headed?
MLS?
+1
Barcelona or Napoli

That's the main reason we're getting Mignolet, is cause apparently he's looking to go to Barca/Napoli.

But then again, there are also rumors that we will sign Mignolet and send him right back to Sunderland on loan.
+1
Why would you send him back? He's been terrific and deserves to play in a bigger club unless Liverpool isn't the bigger club in this case... JK JK!
They're rumors, and we still have Reina.
If the Reina deal doesn't go through, then it's a waste to keep Mignolet on the bench, better loan him back to Sunderland and let him play first team football.

This is all speculation btw, Liverpool haven't even signed Mignolet yet.
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He wants to leave so we letting him go. Simple as that.
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City opponent for the opening day of the 2013/14 season is Hull City

Put your money on it the draw is tomorrow
Or United ;)

Open the season with a bang i say, since United are not playing you lot in the community shield, it would be fantastic 1st game of the season United v City, it might compensate for all this wait.
I want our first game to be at home.
Liverpool is playing Hull.
+1
I will really love the season opener to be United v City


Is there any utd vs arsenal or liverpool opening game? i have a feeling the fixtures are always fixed
@cj
I think we requested the FA to have our first game AWAY because we needed more time to get the OT pitch ready.
In recent seasons Liverpool has played Arsenal in the very beginning stages.

So I'll say Liverpool vs Arsenal OR Arsenal vs Liverpool in the first 3-4 matchdays. :P
Liverpool vs Arsenal? when was that?
@prophet oh well then I wouldn't mind newcastle away for our 1st game.
Liverpool will play Hull, Fulham, and Everton in the first three fixtures.
^spot on
I saw that picture too
no Jimmy Bullard this time around so didn't really care much :p
Good morning everyone :*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L89IDDq30J8
i feel this summer will see a higher than avg activity in the transfer market due to the new tv deal.

in case you haven't heard, some more details on the new premier league TV deal: I found confirmation that the new tv deal will start 2013-2014 season. every club can expect a boost of at least 20+ million pound from tv broadcasting revenue. The teams at the top of the table can expect a 30+ million boost.

so for example, next season, the team that gets relegated will earn about 63 million from tv deal. the team that wins the premiership will earn between 95 and 100 million pound. This year qpr got ~40 million, and utd got 61 million, for comparison.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/10072297/New-Premier-League-TV-deal-promises-100m-prize-money-for-next-seasons-title-winners.html

the caveat however is with the new premiership FFP rules, teams will have to be careful with how they spend that money. currently the biggest expense for teams is their wage bill. something like 70% (compare with 51% in germany) of revenue for the avg premiership team goes towards player wages, but that has to become a lower percentage if clubs hope to break even before transfer sales etc are factored in. so the clubs with good business model (norwich, swansea, arsenal etc) will benefit the most from this new surplus of cash in terms of spending power.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/05/soccer-finances-europe-idUSL5N0EH1FO20130605?feedType=RSS&feedName=marketsNews&rpc=43

to see how your club did 2 seasons ago (revenue data for 2012-2013 isn't published yet) with wage to revenue ratio:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2013/apr/18/premier-league-club-accounts-debt

to see how much tv money your club earned 2012-2013:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2327063/Premier-League-prize-money-table-final-game-2013-season.html
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Promoted Sides for EPL Season 2013/14

Cardiff City
Crystal Palace
Hull City


Who do you guys think will have the most successful season next season?
I'll put my money on Cardiff and Palace to finish between 10 and 15 [with Cardiff higher up in the table]
And Hull straight back into the Championship.
If I had to put money on one of the three staying up, I'd say Cardiff.
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I think Palace would go down unless they reinforce heavily and with Zaha gone it would be a uphill battle. They hardly have any PL caliber players in their team but they do play some good football.
Personally I hope Cardiff do well
Cardiff will most certainly stay up IMO. Not too sure about the other 2.
A better question is...who will be relegated next season?
I think Palace and Hull are going to be gone for sure and Sunderland a strong 3rd candidate.
On the other hand, Stoke without Pulis is high up there with Sunderland
Dan, I would like for Cardiff to do well too. Them and Swansea each year would be fun to watch.
Cardiff City please
Post your Country's best ever XI in your opinion . I'll go first.

----------------------------Iker Casillas------------------------------

-----Sergio Ramos----Puyol----Fernando Hierro----José Camacho------

--------------------------------Josep Guardiola--------------------------
-----------Xavier Hernández--------------Andrés Iniesta------------

------Francisco Gento-------------------------Alfredo Di Stéfano---
----------------------------------David Villa------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
-------------De Rosario------------
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wynton rufer
ryan nelsen
------------------Brad Freidel-----------

(Pick any back line lol. Not what the US is known for)
Cherundolo-----Agoos-----Balboa-----Bocanegra

-------Claudio Reyna----Michael Bradley-----

Landon Donovan---Clint Dempsey---Cobi Jones

-----------------Brian McBride------------
+1
----------------------Shay Given-------------------------

Dennis Irwin--Richard Dunne--Paul McGrath--Steve Staunton

-Liam Brady-----Roy Keane----Johnny Giles---Damien Duff

---------------Robbie Keane---Frank Stapleton------------
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I support Brazil also so I will do there starting XI

_______________________Gilmar____________________

C. Alberto_______Brito_________Lucio_______Carlos

________________Socrates_________Zico_____________

Grrincha______________Pele___________________Rivelino

_____________________Ronaldo________________________
____________Jääskeläinen_____________

Pasanen____Hyypiä__Tihinen____Moisander

__________Tainio______R.Eremenko_______

Johansson____Litmanen_____Hämäläinen_

______________Forssell_____________

How many can you prononce? :D
@Teja7, off the top of my head, Simeon Jackson, Atiba Hutchinson, Rob Friend, Olivier Occean, Paul Stalteri, Craig Forrest, Tom Radzinski, and Jim Brennan have all played top flight football outside MLS at some point.

There's tons of others too.

The team could also have had Hargreaves, Jonathan de Guzman, Bunbury and Begovic but none of them decided to represent Canada
Isn't Hoillett Canadian?
^But chose not to represent.
I don't think Hoilett plays National football. Don't know why, he can play for either Jamaica(?) or Canada but he's playing for neither.


@SS - Yeah, those were some good players, Simeon Jackson and Forrest were indeed very good players.
And also didn't know Begovic and Hargreaves had the chance to play for Canada. Hmm
well this is mostly from pub chats over the years and things ive read but here goes.

Jim Leighton

Alan Hansen-Willie Miller-Alex McLeish-Danny McGrain

Jim Baxter-Graeme Souness-Archie Gemmill-Jimmy Johnstone

Denis Law-Kenny Dalglish

Manager: Alex Ferguson

Supposedly the best ever XI, but only really had a chance to watch 5-6 of them and all from old school recordings lol
@Teja7, Will Johnson is a decent player too.

And ya, Hargreaves was born in Canada, Begovic grew up here.
Based on Major tournament performances for Italy.
I probable added too much from more recent players though.But its more or less like this.

Buffon

Zambrotta - Baresi - Cannavaro - Maldini

Rivera - Pirlo - Tardelli

Baggio

Rossi Vieri
@KingLucas: Romario and Juninho(the old Juninho) should be in that team man. And for goalkeepers it's hard to go past Taffarrel.
I'll have a crack. ;) Go easy on me Zilch and Jesta, I haven't seen many of the old boys play, so cut me some slack ;)

--------------Schwarzer--------------
Wilkshere----Neil----C.Moore----Marston
-----Zelic-----Warren-----Cahill-----
-----Kewell-----Viduka-----UMM-----

Yeah got stumped in the end ;)
^bresciano? I know it's not his natural position but he deserves a mention
Some players I only manage to watch on videos/documentary
___________________VDS
Reiziger __Koeman __F. De Boer/Staam__Krol
_____________Rijkaard____Davids

________Bergkamp_____________Gullit
___________________Cruijff
__________________Van Basten

lol Too many names missing, players like Hanegem, Neeskens, Haan, Cocu, Kluivert etc
Ayyam, Aloisi or Damien Mori where you got stuck :) And definitely Bresciano. Maybe Emerton? And I always rated Zelko Kalecs in goal over Schwarzer.
Oy REDDevil98, You forgot the other De Boer, Ronald!!
^ like I said too many names missing can't fit them all lol
Timmy Cahill hahah
What would be your World XI (under 23s)?
----------Balotelli------
----Hazard--Goetze--Bale---
--------Pogba--Gündogan----
Alaba--Varane--Papadopoulos--Rafael?
----------De Gea OR Courtois--------

Midfield bit weak I think though...
Edit Midfield Out Wilshere, In Pogba for some strength
You are right. That midfield would get ran over. who is gone win the ball?
Do you mean Schalke 04 Papadopoulos? not good enough
Yea but I couldn't think of a better centre back under 23
zouma !!!!!!!
Gundogan can win the ball KingLucas, I watched him turn Yaya Toure into his pet during the Champions League qualifiers.
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lmao @ turning Yaya Toure into a pet

dont let yaya get you Zilch:D
+2
Cortouis over De Gea
+11
maybe neymar or lucas moura in for hazard???
Hey it did happen in that game Snitch ;) Dunno if he'd manage it again mind you.
+2
@ gooner Neymar is too weak and unproven against decent defence. Hazard has better vision, acceleration, he is strong as hell and better at getting past defenders. Overall Hazard is a much better player imo. I'd prefer Lucas over Neymar, but again Hazard has had a better season.
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----------------------------Thibaut Courtois------------------------------

----------Carvajal----Varane----Nastasic----Alaba------

------------------Yann Mvila-------------------------
-----------Bale-------Isco-------Hazard------------

-------------------Balotelli----Muller------------------
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^ Agree with all of it except Goetze over isco though.
Thiago anyone ? For me he over pogba

Courtois over De gea ( considering the fact that he had to play with lesser quality defence )
where is Pirlo?
+2
^Haha I see what you did there. +1
Pirlo is f*cking awesome
LOL wilshere is weak? nice one. Bith Wilshere and Gundogan can win the ball back...

@Aaron

M'vila? You gotta be kidding me, the guy has been on a decline since like 2 years ago
"who gonna win the ball in the midfield"?

well i guess u never saw Paul Pogba in action though ;)
+3
Giggs?
+1
Goetze is f*****g overrated
All these transfer rumours.. The Telegraph managed to contradict themselves in two articles published at the same time. One says the Glazers have given Moyes £60 mill to spend. The other claims United are prepared to bid £85 mill for Bale. Now that's 145 mill..
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Bale's going to Madrid. Haven't you heard? He was BORN to play for Real!
Either way you guys cash in 85 million. He probably will be going to real because he wont go to a rival club.
Apparently Bayern and PSG also interested. Maybe Barca as well?
all they do is come up with random bs and some sports fans eat that s**t up. i really can't see him coming to united though. bigger spenders will end up with him. most likely real madrid
^Levy won't sell him to United
Not much fun being a Spurs supporter in the transfer window.
Bale to RM. AVB to PSG. And we never try to sign anyone until it's only five minutes to go..
+3
As a rival fan I'm actually more scared of bale leaving for 85 millions than him staying. You can buy 4 good players with hudge potential or 3 world class players with that money.
+1
As much as it pains me to say it, if someone dish up 80 mill or more, and Bale should want to go, it would be bad business for the club to say no.
I said 80, not 40-45-60..!
+1
If Real finance the new stadium in exchange for Bale, I think that would be a good deal.
@lkerun: Let's consider we get 85million for Bale. The whole world will know that we sold him for a world record fee, leading to inflated prices. Secondly, since we are not in the champions league our target pool will be smaller. We don't offer fancy wages either.


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38
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16
10
12
38
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14
10
38
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43
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38
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41
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38
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41
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19
8
11
38
16
39
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54
41
17
12
9
38
17
36
-26
73
47
20
9
9
38
18
28
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73
43
22
10
6
38
19
25
-30
60
30
21
13
4
38
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