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SKY or BBC or ITV? which do you guys prefer for football coverage and why?
BBC. As to why, I find ITV commentators too emotional. I'd rather watch those commentators who can keep their emotions completely in check. Almost monotonous is my preference. BBC comes closest to that imo.
Sky my reasons are in the video below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lge8wx-9Vk
Sky, because the have the one and only Gary Neville.
New rule: If a player goes down holding his face and or clutching body part while crying and rolling on the floor because he's experiencing so much "pain" and gets right back up after the foul is settled, then that player should receive a yellow card for falsifying pain level, wasting the medics time as well as the fans time.
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Not a bad shout. You can tell when a player is hurt, and it usually involves grasping for the part of the body that is injured, which is usually not the face....
Also, on most serious injuries, you're going to be still (example from the game yesterday, a collision between Oscar and Henderson), not rolling around on the ground like a fish out of water.
It's should be a rule. It's effectively simulation, time wasting and trying to get your opponent carded
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Should be ushered off field, like any player who requires treatment.
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Agree with Surajloks12345, remove them from the field.

Maybe in return, field a temporary substitute of maximum 5 minutes. If he really can't the field within 5 minutes, then replace him.

This game has become way too dramatic. Contact sport my ass, the level of the "Masculinity" of professional footballers on this sport has gone down to the point of women football team has shown much more sportsmanship.

The policy has became: "Simulation and creating minimal contact to earn short-cuts has been the way to go, either follow or be left behind".

We've fixed the goal-line issue, free-kick positioning, next should be this.. or maybe fix referring as a whole.
The irony of course is that many of these players come from countries where Machismo is very prevalent yet they will roll around crying for the world to see. Yet if you were to call them a girl or feminine they would try to tear your face off. Wish that machismo wasn't just for show and actually translated to the pitch.
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Also retrospective bans on players who dive in the box whether they receive penalty received a card or nothing happened.
Because FIFA allows diving, it has now literally become part of the game. Sh!t players who can't relay on their skills miss up the game for everyone. It is very sad to see teams/players resorting to this kind of pathetic method to win games.
I just think about some of the tackles I receive on a weekly basis playing for my club and I'm no professional athlete. Bunch of drama queens, one arsehole raked his studs down my leg for "fun" while with blood dripping down my leg the ref waved play on and another ripped out my arm hairs to "distract me". I was blinded in 1 eye for 2 days from a ball to the eye socket(embarrassingly it was my own shot bouncing back off the keeper), had my hand stamped on and in general, had the s**t kicked out of me by big defenders almost every game, whether it be almighty swings at my foot to stop me shooting or elbows to the face for attempting to win the aerial ball. And that was just last season, my injury list could fill a book. Off the top of my head the worst ones are: 1 broken arm, 3 broken toes, 1 fractured foot, 1 damaged retina, 2 broken fingers, 2 ankle ligament tears(1 very bad) and a badly torn quad muscle.

It's part of the game, in the good old days they used to just get on with it, the game and players are becoming too precious.
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and then you've got this guy....

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/shelford.html

the story might be completely fabricated but I have seen rugby players get stitches on the sidelines and have dislocated digits/limbs popped back in so they can continue playing.
Mate rugby players, holy s**t. Here in Aus there was one bloke who played the entire 80 minutes of the grand final after fracturing his cheekbone in the first 5 minutes. Another hero during the season ran back on and played out the match with what was later diagnosed as a broken leg. That same nutcase played for the next 3 matches on that fractured leg. Some of the injuries they play through are insane.

In other news, that's a bloody brilliant article, worth a read, minus the excessively colourful language lol.
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yeah the language makes me wonder if it is real or not. I will have a look when I get home haha.

I do remember watching the international tests and an Aussie rugby player (cannot remember his friggin name!) got a nasty gash/laceration at the corner of his mouth. He had it stitched up and carried on playing, what a man....
Off topic. Anyone here follow AFL? I've only watched a few games but the things they allow is crazy...

http://youtu.be/QyFlnudTGg8

Edit:
This second vid is even crazier...

http://youtu.be/pdy_PcC_VCY
Yeh I watch it, it's a bit nuts. Watched both vids, they do worse stuff than that mate. Have you seen them take a really good mark? They take a running leap and climb up the guys back in studded boots sometimes. They're supposed to land their knees or legs on their back or shoulders which is also crazy lol, imagine that weight on your neck.. :/

The crowds for this sport are huge too, over 100,000 in some games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERTcZV7uTFU

^ That is perfectly legal and considered a brilliant catch rather than dangerous.

Rewind to the 1970s to 1990s and you'd find a very minor difference in football tackles and rugby tackles. Face it, our players have regressed into a bunch of babies. Though, with Stoke in the picture, I can hardly blame the players.
^it is brilliant to watch, to be fair :D

but those brutal hits are ridiculous. There must surely be a higher fatality rate in AFL? There are elbows being thrown and clothesline arms being levelled at peoples necks and, with the speed these guys play at, people must get seriously and/or permanently injured?
Deffy, all head high tackles are heavily punished with fines and suspensions. These guys are massive mountains of flesh running at another musclebound meat head. Their bodies are braced for the impacts and therefore less likely to be injured badly, unlike football where the impact often comes out of nowhere and leaves you sprawled on the ground. They are often bruised and bloody but that's part of the game, my football coach used to say if you aren't bleeding from somewhere, you haven't put in enough effort lol. These rugby blokes wear the injuries and blood like a badge of honour.

There's been maybe 2 or 3 blokes in over 10 years of AFL and NRL that have suffered terrible injuries like spinal damage, being paralysed etc. Some of the players wear neck braces and head gear due to previous damage, it's just part of the rough and tumble nature of the game and every player accepts that.

To be honest they get more fines for what they do when they go out after playing. A few recent examples are fighting security guards, paying for hookers and let's not forget the idiot who took a piss on the side of a police car while drunk. Great role models that lot.
Well , considering the injuries, Zilch is correctly following Arsenal .lol :P

The best solution to diving would be , if the referee doesn't spot it , a 2-3 match ban . That should do well to start things off.
Costa has been charged by the FA. and faces three match ban for his actions yesterday

Thank God. As much as I am sad that he will miss city match I am (for once) very happy that the FA was sensible in this situation. He just can't go around being as violent as this, in my opinion it is an utter disgrace the way he does this(Costa). It happens a occasionally but Costa crosses/d the line way too often for my liking. I'm also very happy this has happened now and not later where it might impact us much more. He needs to learn.
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FA was sensible in this situation only because he is a foreign player..The same applied for Suarez & Balo as well.

charlie adam is showing his rugby skills game after game without even getting a card or caution.
+2
Charlie Adam, good example lol. Did he get any punishment for strangling Alexis?
+1
Think he got a yellow, that's why there was no retro-active ban.

Adam just seems to get away with this kind of stuff.
+2
Well, obviously a yellow card is enough for attempted murder.. right lads?
LOL There Will Be Trollers (There will be haters parody) Ft. Torres, Suarez, Pepe, Balotelli, Terry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQh24j56LOk
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Mi Collection es muy grande mi amigos!

BTW - big respect for most chelsea fans condemning the stamps. These look expensive and exquisite.


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rotfl Costa Pops!
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He starts s**t up with players then falls rolling on the ground like the sissy bitch he is at the minor reaction from them. Way to act like a tough guy.
+5
Tell me when has he gone to the ground easily? He has been properly fouled on most occasions and has been unfairly labelled a diver when there have been far worse dives. If you can't take what he dishes out don't instigate him, Skrtel is no saint either my friend.

As for the stamp, don't you worry he'll get the punishment, Jamie Redknapp has personally called the FA to voice his concern. But of course the brilliant refereeing will continue to go unnoticed.
+9
Easily one of the top strikers defenders don't want to have to defend.
Honestly, if you see the post match, Costa usually shares a hug/handshake with the opposition defenders (Shawcross, Ramos, Skrtel etc.) cause he respects the battle they gave him and they also know of the battle that Costa gave them.
+6
That punch from Fazio......
+1
Costa tries to act like the tough guy, but if someone who isn't afraid of him IE Henderson, Skrtel, stands up to him he doesn't do a damn thing.
+1
@ScouserDan, what do you want him to do? Bite Henderson and Skrtel?
+3
^Because he's not a fool. He knows once theres a scuffle, its over. Hit the reset button and back to the game. Taking it any further would result in suspensions. Everybody knows this, its why you don't see bench clearing brawls in football.

The man plays with emotion. Something most English players leave at the door. Which results in passionless games all the time. You can't blame Costa for being spirited. Defenders play with a hand on his shirt all the time. And he's pulled and grabbed every game. And as soon as he does it back, the whistle blows and he's booked. Yeah, thats fair...
+3
Costa is a fighter. I would go as far as to say that he is a thug on the pitch, but he treats everyone equally. Nothing personal, purely professional.

I don't think he acts like a sissy tbh. When was the last time he backed out of a fight?
Costa is one of those rare breed players that will go that step to far for his team and have no problem doing it. Suarez, Terry, Gattuso, Keane etc. If they play for your team you love them and everyone else hates them. Wish we had one at Tottenham.

+4
@TheBokiya I would never want that, he could just fling big strings of snot at them.. oh wait he's already done that before in Spain.
+2
ScouserDan - "If someone who isn't afraid of him IE Henderson, Skrtel, stands up to him he doesn't do a damn thing"

Are you sure he dint do a damn thing to Skrtel?? :p And do you think he dint do a damn thing to Henderson because he was scared of him?? LOL! ok.
+2
Can someone embed this beautiful video for fellow liverpool fans

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=788412541195643
Lol wtf Scouserdan, Costa backs down from no one, the complete opposite of what your saying. He doesn't do anything because hes not allowed to do anything but he sure as hell doesn't back off but gets right into their face
A few days old but an interesting article by G.Neville about Southampton's model of football.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/11366206/Gary-Neville-The-era-of-the-gaffer-is-over.html
Typical Sunday League side:

Fat one ✔
Hungover one ✔
Cocky one ✔
Keeper that can't kick one ✔
Moaning tosspot one ✔
Rapid black one ✔
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Lol Who's the Rapid black one and the Hungover one?
+1
the first three = Phil Dowd
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Sunday brought yet another upset this time from Arsenal as Arsene Wenger goes and signs a defender
The apocalypse is nigh....
+6
Wenger wanted someone for Debuchy who got injured, to "patch" holes in Arsenal defense I guess.
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and btw whats up with what Phil Neville said, goes to show his mentality and violent mindset, not to mention how irritating he is to look at and listen to.
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So turns out that United were the best of the lot from among the top teams until now this weekend.

Horrible from City/Chelsea. Not sure what is worse, not being able to score at your own ground or letting in 4 in your backyard. Terrible.

What changes do you folks suggest at City & Chelsea if they were to replay this fateful day again?
Spend more money
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Arsenal fans right now

https://twitter.com/WoolWitchGooner/status/559037074876010497

*mods please embed*
+1
Gee thanks Teja. Very helpful.
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+15
I don't know Tomi. Chelsea's is very perplexing to me because they had a 2-0 lead, at HOME, and against Bradford City. Just take them seriously, next time, I guess.
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Teja - No mate..spending does not guarantee success. I think liverpool fans will know it better than anyone else :)
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See thats the thing, we can't analyse our game at all since it wasn't televised so in my eyes since we didn't see it, it didn't happen :P
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@nluffmaster

now you sound like wenger!!!
Bazinga - Yep, so does Bradford & Middlesborough .. what's your point?
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Teja - My point is simple and clear - Your suggestion of spending more money might not solve the issue.
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Bazinga - Well, doesn't look like Chelsea and ManCity have that kind of logic, so why not splash another £500,000 in the transfer market?
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Teja - well we can actual use the word "invested the money" for both CIty and Chelsea considering they have reaped the rewards over the years due to investments.

On the other hand "Splashing" is something you associate with liverpool's transfer policy....because there is just splashing season after season and no rewards at all

Very reason why both Chelsea and City are above in terms of Revenue in-spite of spending's...Invest in right players and win trophies regularly helps the club grow commercially and recover the spending's.
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For Chelsea, Mourinho should not be underestimating his opposition. For City, well I don't know wtf the club was thinking sending the team out to Dubai right before an Fa cup game.
Well you gotta do as much as you can for the Sheikhs else you won't get the money. I doubt they even care about the FA cup.All they want is the league title and CL.
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@Teja7, if you haven't noticed, Chelsea are now trying to play within the rules of FFP. We don't do reckless transfers anymore(i hope).
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You ALL need to spend some more money..
U guys gotta know how to end banter. Now it's getting to a boring debate -.-

If only Teja's comeback was good enough to keep it going
Too bad every question is turned into a mud slinging game.

@Teja - don't be complaining about the quality of the forum when you are the first one trying to downgrade it. And kudos for fostering more animosity between the fans. Really, if you thought that was banter it was only funny given Liverpool's spending history in the recent past.
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This forum has been a s**t throwing contest for a long time now, and I wasn't here trying to start a debate.
The OP was asking how to improve and I said "spend more money" it's not like it's a new concept for any club to spend money in the Transfer Window ... and heck, look! the transfer window is open right now.

But then you get insolent little children like Bazinga who take everything personally and morph into keyboard warriors.

Yeah sure call it whatever you want "Splashing", "Investing", "Illegal Money", "Blood Money", etc ... it's not like Chelsea and ManCity hit homeruns with everyone they bought. Just ask Fernando Torres and Robinho, they can write books about it.
In the beginning it will be "Splashing", then when you "Splash" enough, it'll turn into "Investing"
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Teja - Maybe your childish acts can go unnoticed on liverpool page but not here on PL page.

"I wasnt here trying to start a debate"?? Nice try...but good luck next time in trying to convince people that "spend more money" wasn't a dig. I hope you can do better than this in future..because it was you who took it personal when i told the fact and raised questions on Liverpool's spending and morph into keyboard worrior:P
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Bazinga - Oh please, why are you acting like clubs spending money is something new?
Yes, I pointed out ManCity and Chelsea spend a lot of money and should continue to spend more. And me stating it won't make it any less or more true, I really don't care if your fickle mind takes it as an insult.


And what happened to you preaching about "Investing" and "Splashing"?
Stop trying to shift the argument towards me cause its a feeble attempt.. I hope you can do better than this in the future

I've read more than enough of your posts here in the PL and Chelsea forums to know that you are bitter towards Liverpool.
So enough with your 'mightier than thou' attitude, just stop, it's sickening.
+10
Alright guys, let's just enjoy the Arsenal fan dance I posted above. This weekend belongs to the Gunners.
+5
I'm ready to put this to bed. Thank you, Tomi.
I apologize to anyone who took insult.
Tomi - Ok i'm done too
cool
Lol - see we are more reasonable than we give each other credit for.
Well now that we've won

now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Ace+Ventura+Showboat.+Ace+Ventura+at+the+Loony+Bin_d77286_3518117.gif
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+6
That was a good read, well done lads, bravo.
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reading this post made my ass twitch
How dare you talk about money that way Teja, disappointed in you lol
Teja, you start talking about Chelsea and City spending lots of money but then you get mad quickly when Bazinga points out that Liverpool was doing the same.
#denyingthetruth #gettingmadeasily
+11
Come on guy's don't get on Teja's case too much. Bazinga did a really good job of dishing out some payback...
+6
I think it was a pretty even fight tbh, with some good comments on both sides. But now that it's over, step off guys and don't rile up either user anymore thank you.
@ProactiveFan & @Peterz
That's a flame-bait I won't be biting. You both should have more class than that
http://transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-last-five-seasons.html

Net spend for anyone interested in actual facts.
^ let the sleeping dog lie son. If u want to carry on with this do it on ur wall.


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