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Haha Palace scored more goals against us than City did

International break come back
And Crystal Palace is off the line, a slow thoroughbred that one, but she has pegged back Chelsea, ohh I bet the bookies weren't expecting that one.
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ayy they going to go on the 31 game win streak, genius Woy strikes again
Huge 3 points for them. They still need to do a lot more, we will see if they can get any momentum from the win.
I'm not gonna lie I thought united put in a good performance today. Defensivekynorganized with a few players out. Not sure why anyone is surprised about their performance today. Of course that's how mourinho is gonna set up away from home against a rival.
Frankly I was disappointed in Liverpool. Saw a lot of the ball and did very little with it. Just because they had more possession and pushed the game doesn't mean they played well. It seemed United wanted it that way and were largely untroubled. I thought Henderson really needed to step up today and push the ball forward.
A point at Anfield is never a bad result. But I think the disappointment for United is that for the first time in a while it looked like we had the attacking players to really take it to Liverpool and expose their defense. We defended fine and only gave Liverpool 2 real chances, but at the same time we didn't offer anything on the attack or the counter. I'm not displeased with a point, but at some point in the season I think we're going to have to go for it, needing 3 points to catch City.
Yeah I mean united have looked better in attack this year than they have since SAF. But they can also defend when they need to. Liverpool weren't able to fashion good chances.
And I'm just still waiting for our derby, whoo! should be something.
So it is Mourinho's way to go to a rival and look for a point. Except for, that might not work out that well this year, with so many rival teams. That's why I think this approach is irking so many United supporters.

I personally think United this year have the firepower to go and attack. What is so extremely scary about a Liverpool team without Mane that has not won in the last 7 games? With all due respect to Liverpool, United should have taken the chance to get 3 points.

I don't buy the argument 'it is better to win trophies than entertain' when really going for 3 points is going to get you closer to the trophy. Stifling Liverpool of 2 extra points is not going to win United the trophy. Liverpool really isn't their direct rival this year. If Mourinho does that at the Etihad I can totally get it.

Liverpool have a goal difference of 1 with 12 goals being scored against them already. Don't tell me United is not capable of putting a few past them at this stage when they are most vulnerable.

What promised to be the one of the best games in the league has become one of the worst ones to watch, honestly
Mourinho cares more about not losing than winning.
It was embarrassing to watch. And JoeyMac to say that you only gave them two chances is a lie. You were very lucky to leave with a point.

I personally would not want Mourinho anywhere near my club, despite his pedigree. Entertainment is far more important than trophies, its the reason most watch football.
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Paddyspursr4life I don't think Mourinho has any plans od joining spurs, he did speak of psg however.
Paddy, it's no lie, good sir. Where were Liverpool really dangerous other than the Matip and Can chances, and maybe a couple of crosses that Ox had when he came on?

Saturday was a snoozer, but come on it's not like we're currently the second highest scoring team in the league or anything. Other than Saturday, all of our games have been fairly entertaining, just as much as the couple of Spurs games I've seen this season
Palace's goal of the month competition:

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-toe-poke/65/post/3219033/crystal-palace-fan-cheeky-goal-of-the-month-competition-goes-viral

:D
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That's a tough one.... I'd have to give it to #4 though. So close though... lol
gotta admire the way the Palace fans have taken it humorously...

the first one was a cracker but the second one just edges it for me.
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We felt sorry for them that we scored for them
Nice little piece after the Chelsea - City game:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/oct/01/pep-guardiola-importance-full-back-exposes-chelsea-vulnerability-manchester-city
the game was even until Morata got injured after that City were able to get back the possession each time we went forward , Azpi dosen't get too forward like Moses but our left side was exposed by Sterling a lot of times that's a problem Conte needs to fix and also City's midfield was overwhelming at times forcing Sane vs Rudiger at 1 on 1 at times , the game vs AM also played a slight factor we couldn't press them, we were too sloppy with our important pass being seen too late or just losing the ball whenever we got the chance to counter , we looked way better when we reverted to 3-4-3 and got to get forward at times but ultimately our midfield was picked apart
they outclassed our midfield through the entire match and Silva controlled the tempo of the match , their pressing was too much for us to handle
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So Ive been looking at the groups for UCL and im quite worried for the english teams in the round of 16. Lets assume they all make it out which is very likely, United CIty and Chelsea win their group and SPurs and Liverpool dont. The problem arrises because Teams like Bayern, Juve, Napoli and Atletico Madrid are potentially 4 out of the possible 7 a group winner could play. Assuming Spurs and Liverpool do finish second then that means that instead of a 4 out of 7 chance its a 4 out of 5 chance. (for City its 3 out of 5)
Sidenote: (if you dont know teams of the same league cannot meet in round of 16)

That is terribly unlucky competition for the round of 16. And ofcourse Liverpool and Spurs will have to potentially play, Real Madrid, Barca, PSG with only 2 group winners sevilla and lets say besiktas being less concerning opponents As such there is a certainly a decent likelihood that none of the english teams make it to the quarter finals even.
Ex: Lpool vs Madrid, Spurs vs Barce, Man U vs Bayer, City Vs Atletico, Chelsea vs Juve
a nightmare matchup for sure but still some sort of permutation of this is actually Likely.

However, If Liverpool win their group the odds are much better because now the group winners have another less powerful team in sevilla to play. SO while I have no love for liverpool I think some foresight is required by all EPL fans. I get everyone having a laugh at Liverpools expense but it actually negatively affects the rest of the EPL teams if liverpool dont win their group. So personally I want liverpool to either finish shitting the bed and goto europa league or win their group. Either way 2nd place is worst case scenario. As it stands now there are only 4 teams total that you would call english teams clear favorites against.
Who cares. Europa League is where its at

Why owuld you wanna play the likes of Barca or Madrid when u can beat some european farmers with your C team
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TFW you get beat by european farmers' C teams
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Maybe speaking for myself, but I just relish the fact we're playing Barcelona in the Champions League. That said Man City are a bit more versed in the CL than Spurs.

At the end of the day, you have to beat the best in the best competition. Man City should have only got better from their recent European ventures (despite losing the big games), I expect them to reach the semis this year.
^ I do agree, if you want to be the best, you gotta beat the best. Honestly, watching Barca now. They aren't exactly amazing at all. Heck, look at Bayern as well. Atletico just got beat by Chelsea. Madrid look the strongest atm, so PL teams better step their sh*t up. I except Chelsea to go far, City and Utd. Spurs have lots of potential and are exciting to watch but I think the lack of experince for many of them in UCL could get the better of them. I mean we had stars galore the first time we play in UCL and it took us a couple of years before getting the grip of it.
^ Not to mention all the youngsters in the squad now minus a few vets like Fernandhino, Silva, Kompany etc, It'll take them to help the squad with the big game pressure, hope I won't be seeing Sterling, Sane, Jesus missing a bundle of chances or not being able to create any on the big occasions.
We have only played 2 games. We haven't lost to any one in fact we should have won both. On the first one Lovern cost us the game and on the 2nd one they had 2 shots on target on of which was one the GK(Karius) should have saved. We are 2nd place in the group with 2 points of the top. We played really well and dominated both games we were unlucky to not get a win.
Why is there such fear about advancing and losing in this competition? Where does this stem from? It's the Champions league, so if you are expecting to get an easy match up then what's the point of even being in it?
King Lucas your defense is terrible and you're so wasteful in front of goal. Your only hope is counterattacking
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Id be more worried about meeting psg - the look deadly in attack
Ancelotti fired?? tough to fill in Pep's shoes
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What shoes? Winning the league against german rice farmers and getting trashed against decent teams in europe? I think carlo did that pretty well lol
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Winning the league 3 times in a row. Breaking the record of winning the league with 10 games remaining. Winning the german cup twice. trashed in europe? do you follow european football?? Making the champions league semi-final 3 times in a row is not trashed in europe. Winning the fifa club world cup and the super cups. Those shoes are pretty deep to fill if you ask me.
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^Wasn't Pep brought in to win the UCL like the real legend before him? Didn't Ancelotti just win the Bundesliga..if Pep had the decency to with the UCL surely Ancelotti would have won those club world cups and super cups you're gassed up about. Do you even watch football? You making such a big fuss about Pep reaching the semi's as if they didn't make it to the final twice in a row before he showed up
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Pep was given one of the best and dominating team , after winning cl, Carlo had a team with ageing player and he didn't receive the money to spend either , Bayern isn't doing too badly either
Just because you have a strong team that is worth lots of money doesn't mean you will win UCL even if you won it last year. Look at Jose when he was at Madrid. Spend loads of money and the best he every got was the semis ( which isn't easy btw). Pep during the first two times he was beaten by the eventual winners, Barca and Madrid. No shame in that. His last season he went out on away goals to Atletico Madrid despite controlling the game. That season I thought he would have gone to the finals, unfortunately no luck.

Not sure where it went wrong for Carlo. They team look bad from pre-season and on. The board should have let him get some experienced players on the team because it look as if they were signing new stars for the future but really lacked experience players. Although from what I'm hearing the players just seemed to have stopped following him.
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Lol I sometimes can't believe the fans who make fun of Pep and his achievements. Guy's one of the best (for me the best) managers in the world, has won every trophy, produced a team that is one of the best in history, and made another team so strong that their players went on to win the world cup.
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^agreed
Those who don't know football. Pep is a brand! he's more than a coach, he's a brand of football that every club wants to see him at their club. Before Pellegrini was leaving he said this "even if i had won the champions league, Pep would still replace me". Man UTD with Ferguson were after him day and night. PSG was after him day and night. Everyone was surprised when he chose to go to Bayern. Even after failing to win the champions league he was offered a contract by Bayern which he turned down because he felt he couldn't motivate his players anymore. With Pep comes attacking beautiful football that every fan wants to see.

I know so many Man UTD Chelsea Arsenal fans that tell me when City and their team play at the same time they watch City! they tell me, when you are offered to watch one team that defends with 6 at the back and wastes time against a mid table team like Southhamptom and on another channel you have a team thats scoring 5 goals per game, its obvious what they would rather watch. So to say "he got trashed in Europe" is absurd only someone with no knowledge about football can say that!

Spain won the world cup cos they used his attacking tiki taka football, they did not play like Real Madrid, they played like Barcelona at that time. Even the National team benefited from Pep.

This is a coach thats judged on champions league success that speaks volumes.
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FootballisCity, you seem to be the one that doesn't know football.

Pep is not tiki taka. Tika taka is from when Barca was coached by Dutch mangers dating back to Cruyff 1988. Pep took over in 2008. Barca have been using Tika taka for 20 years prior to Pep.

Pep's success @ Barca was largely due to the Midfield Rijkaard built and Messi.

Also, Messi has been quoted many times stating Rijkaard as the most important manager of his career.

Pep should be commended for what his has achieved. Clearly coaching big name players isn't easy (aka Carlo) but calling him a "brand"? I'm not buying it.


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If Pep quit City today name one team that wouldn't want him as a coach? apart from Madrid because there is that stigma ... every single club, national team you name it will take him with open arms! i know it you know it everyone knows it, so this argument is useless. Pep is the best coach we have seen! just listen to some of the other coaches that has seen him in training ground one example is AVB he said this guy is "obsessed"!
^nah man that's called being polite. There are some coaches out there who say Wenger is doing a good job in and out of training. They call him a workaholic..it's called football politics. If you butter him up whenever you can it makes it easier to make a deal for one of his players. Such a great coach can't even find a way to motivate his players? so he had to leave and find an easier place huh. Pep wouldn't go to Madrid cause he can't fill Zidane's shoes...now that's the best manager of our time
Footballiscity, Name one team that wouldn't want him? I'm sure Germany would throw his resume in the Garbage. Bayern wouldn't take him back.

If Pep quit city today his options would be very limited. Mainly because Pep will only coach a team with money. Most of those money teams are currently satisfied with thier coach (ie: Chelsea, Man U, PSG, Madrid, Juv, Barcelona)

You think he'd coach a team like Spurs? Or BVB? Lyon? Sevilla? Not gonna happen. He needs funds to buy players, because well... he's just not that good of a coach.


i could coach pep's bayern team to a bundesliga title. just sayin.
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This England squad is an absolute joke. Southgate is picking injury prone crocks and/or bench warmers based on unfathomable criteria.

Joe Hart,
Fraser Forster,
Jack Butland,
Jordan Pickford

Ryan Bertrand,
Aaron Cresswell,
Gary Cahill,
Phil Jones,
Harry Maguire,
John Stones,
Michael Keane,
Chris Smailling,
Kyle Walker ,
Kieran Trippier

Eric Dier,
Fabian Delph,
Jake Livermore,
Jordan Henderson ,
Raheem Sterling,
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain,
Jesse Lingard,
Dele Alli

Marcus Rashford,
Harry Kane,
Jermain Defoe,
Daniel Sturridge.

I'm expecting Southgate to peel off his face and reveal himself to be Uncle Woy all along.
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Curious, who would you have him pick? England just aren't anything special right now (and haven't been for a while). I think the squad reflects that.
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Joeymac is right..hard to think of any top quality England players right now. His options are so terrible the only choice i can think of, off the top of my head is Walcott..although Fabien Delph is a terrible choice
Fair point, Joey - we have got a rather poor talent pool to choose from.

Wilshere over Delph
Lascelles over Smalling
Wouldn't even bother with Hart, Sturridge or Livermore.

Just realised that half the players I wanted to write are actually injured...

Welbeck, Lallana, Chalobah, Rose.

This must be a new low for the English NT lol.
How in the seven hells did Ox sneak into this squad?

I would have recalled Young to the squad or given a youngster a chance. I mean anything but Ox given his form.

This speaks volumes about the lack of quality English players right now.
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The problem is the MF. The back line is good and going forward, he has good options. The MF is beyond poor, I mean just awful. Don't know where to even start. Sterling and Delli are the only ones you can pick out. Although I don't understand how James Ward Prowse is not getting called up, always done well for the Saints. Heck even throw young Tom Davies from Everton in the pool because even his impressed at Everton.
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Good shout on Ward Prouse! Very underrated young talent
JWP is a regular in the youth setup, surely Southgate knows what he's about. However he doesn't get a lot of game time at Southampton, always seems to start on the bench which I guess hurts his prospects.

Did anyone see the PSG Bayern game? PSG is the scariest team in Europe right now. Mbappe and Neymar were just electric. Cavani did his part as well. Fab front 3. Mbappe completely torched Alaba for the 3rd goal

In other news, four English teams have collected 6 points in CL in the first two games. Not bad eh? Maybe it is time English football has a bigger impact in Europe again. I feel this is the year when it will get better.

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I expect one of the cl teams to make it to the semi's
Pl has some ridiculous goal scoring machines now which is a great sign
Mbappe's maturity and awareness is frightening considering hes only 18. Futures very bright for him.
Di maria wasn't even playing...
that fake shot and ball roll completely sold Alaba, looked like the old schoolboy days when one kid would just humiliate everyone else.
Interesting story. Koeman told Oumar Niasse he didn't want him at Everton last season, forced to train with the U21 and now that Koeman has no experienced strikers and his job is on the line and he gets saved by none other then.....Oumar Niasse! Scored a brace against Bournmouth and is now making Koeman eat his words.

I love a good come back story!
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Fair play to the lad
I don't think Koeman job was ever on the line Everton won't be able to get another manager as good as Koeman
People forget how poorly Everton started last year as well but had one of the best records in the league after January
that could also be the result of koeman's motivation. he's obviously seen the lad work hard and improve to give him a spot in the first team.
All kudos must go to the lad for his humility and strength of character. When u see players throw a tantrum for an unkind text message these days this story is such a breathe of fresh air.
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^No need for the 'e' ;)
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One could say that really came back to bite him, Niasse.
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Silva..thanks for the correction :)
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Look out Naija - its the grammar police - bah!
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Semantics😂
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What is your 3 word match report for your club's game today? For Arsenal fans, what is your 3 word match preview for your game on Monday?

Morata Hat Trick
The Spanish Army
Please not Shelvey

Alternatively

4th again please
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Keep it going.
Defense? What defense?
+6
Why play monday?
Mou parked bus
Attack Attack Attack
Lukaku's big peni... goal
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Ref sucks balls
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@joeymac

Lex + Mandingo = Lukaku
+2
Who needs costa


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