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Look at Arsenal, who would have thought (keep it up), look at Man United, who would have thought (keep it up).
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Anybody has United's recent wage bill? its strange how Luke Shaw just signed a 195K/week contract when Benjamin Mendy who is at least 10 times better left back is on 60K/week. I mean I understand players would rather go to City because of Pep, attacking football, winning titles in style (100 points) and take a pay cut when it comes to money and United has to offer more money if they wanna sign players (Sanchez 500K) or keep players Luke Shaw (195K) but that difference between Shaw and Mendy in wages just baffles me it makes no sense at all I mean the difference in quality is humongous, the wages should be the other way around.
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You make a valid point in the most nonsensical way. Literal propaganda right here.
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the main point being valid is whats important, the rest is just "football fever" not propaganda ;)
LOL
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Propaganda_Poster_in_North_Korea.jpg

^"Not propaganda," says FootballisCity, pointing to his dramatic post.
You are a strange human
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PaddySpurs if your team was achieving what my team has been achieving for the past decade you would be an even more strange human
Excited yes, but I'd like to think I'd be humble about it. It's hard to keep up with you man!
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@Footballiscity, you are what you are because of yourself. Don't blame it on City. Did the other city fans become jerks overnight after having 100 points?
PaddySpurs some ppl are humble some ppl are not, nothing wrong with having some swagger ... you are what you are and i am what i am why should any of us change for someone else's agenda... gotta be original not a copy
Mate you have zero swagger...
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It's really nice to see Henry,Lampard,Gerrard,Viera,Giggs,Terry starting their managerial career. We might get to see them managing Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, United one day. Zidane has shown that great players can be great managers too.
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I'm sure most will be crap managers lol. Very rare for successful coaches to have been top players like pep and zidane. Hopefully one will emerge as a top coach, I wonder who is most likely...
What a title race? Can't really separate the top 5 teams thus far. All don't look invincible (City probably the closest). Chelsea (ST) Arsenal (defense) Spurs (depth) have their faults but keep winning. United a wildcard still, not sure on them.

Then you have Bournthmouth, Wolves and Everton and maybe Watford (starting to fade a bit) in the middle pack fighting for 7th.
Liverpool are competing for the title with thier star player off form
It was big for Liverpool to get out of these last two games with points, but I think they'd have taken 1 win and 1 loss rather than 2 draws. Don't overlook City coming out of Anfield with a point and not conceding a goal. To me this shows that they're not resting on the title they won but instead still getting better and will have more steel with which to attack the CL. They have the depth to carry that to the league too but will the added emphasis on Europe be enough to let someone sneak in?

Arsenal 8 wins in a row btw.
Its great to see many teams competing for title. I still feel city and Liverpool are favorites this year with city may be slightly better.
Mark my words, Chelsea are deceptively dangerous this season. Can't believe what Sarri has been able to achieve already. The big risk for Chelsea is the dependence on Hazard though - there is clearly no replacement for him.

I feel between City-Liverpool-Chelsea it is going to be a fun, fun season.

Not discounting Arsenal & Spurs obviously. I think Spurs will peter out and Arsenal have a lot to prove after a few seasons of mentally exhausting disappointments
Arsenal is the 2nd highest scoring team right now I would definitely count them in.
I think City will start to see some separation once de Bruyne returns. Chelsea and Liverpool will do enough to keep up imo, but the depth in the long run could be the defining issue.

Tomi, Chelsea are just so much fun to watch, I'm amazed. That midfield trio is so good, Jorginho got the early plaudits but Kovacic has been superb. But yeah the big question mark is Hazard's availability and the ST play.

For Liverpool, when does their attacking trio click? Does Salah return to the heights of last season? If so, they have the chance to keep up.
Loving the Sarriball :D

@Joey - Liverpool also has some depth issues up front to be honest. Now that Milner is out (and Salah possibly) we might get to see how they cope.



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To be fair it's just a continuation of the problems we've seen with the Glazers, Woodward, etc. for years. The green/gold campaign knew what they were dealing with. Fergie was a master for masking it all
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Since Fergie left, Man Utd have spent millions upon millions on amazing players. I remember images where man utd fans made with the best player from *insert league*

Honestly as a neutral, I dont see what wrong Man Utds board and owners have been. Arsenal have someone so much worse in Kroenke and Newcastle have it the absolute worst with Mike Ashley.

Of course I dont know how bad it is for MU, but when u can spend minimum 150 mill every summer. Its not THAT bad
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How would you have felt if Arsenal board hired Moyes after Wenger? Then after that hired LVG and Mou after? Or lets say if the owners took 1 billion from the club in the span of 10 years?

Once your house is completely on fire, adding a lot of water wont do much. It might take the fire out, but the house is gone. The Glazers lit the house on fire under SAF and that job was finished under Moyes. Spending a s**t ton under LVG or Mou wont solve the problem in short run.
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Hiring Moyes was done on SAF's advice! He's not the manager to lead a top club, but he's far from the scrub United fans portrayed him to be.

Then LVG and Mou, two of the most successful managers of the past decades, backed by tons of transfer money - that's not exactly terrible management from the board either.

There simply is no 'one' cause of this downfall. The board is clearly less than perfect, as are all managers after Fergie, as are the players who just never play to their potential. But there's more to it than that, it's just hard to point out what's the more crucial factor.

I believe that United, after Moyes and LVG and the depressing board, needed an optimistic manager. One who inspires players and loves attacking football. Not exactly moaning Mourinho, but rather an optimist like Klopp or Pep. Maybe even take a risk with a young, talented manager like Pochettino or Silva. Just not a manager who demands more than anyone else from the board and the players and plays negative football. Players will never reach their best level under him and eventually start a riot because of it.
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Proof that even SAF is human and makes mistakes. But even still we're forgetting how strange that summer was: Woodward's first, where we couldn't wrap up a Thiago transfer and ended up with the panic buys of Mata and Fellaini late on. Fergie's retirement hit everyone by surprise, then Gill moved out, and everyone in positions of power at the club just had a "what's next?" moment that lasted too long.

The problem with the board is not that they don't allow the club to spend money, it's that they don't have a long-term vision. When you combine that with a manager like Mourinho who has a stubborn short-term vision for his own personal style of football (even if it's to no long-term benefit of the club), then you get what we've got right now. Definitely need a more positive, team-focused coach as our next step.
United hired Mourinho for instant success for which he is known for. I think Mourinho has done better job than LVG and Moyes. All his transfers were great. Problem is that united have lots of dead woods. Lots of players needs to be replaced even now. Jose was crying for a defensive player all summer. If United had signed a defender, I think it would have made a huge difference IMO.
And yes, there is negativity and defensive tactics. But club knew the risks.
Yes it's been 5 years since we won the league, that kind of stat is the reason we won't pick someone like poch who has never won a trophy in his life. Can he build a title winning side, and if so how long should that take? Mourinho has won 25 trophies in his career, as a club we've won 60- something major trophies over our entire history, you can see why mou was selected. I do think if we give him time and resources, he can deliver, though we have to have one of the top 2 squads in the league and that may not be possible even with 3 more seasons if we don't see some changes in the structure of the club.

It would be nice to be able to take risks on managers like Bayern Barca and madrid do when you have the best players and teams in the world. But we don't have that, coupled with 5 years of no title, there is a huge amount of pressure. We both need to rebuild a winning squad and have a manager with winning experience and mentality. Who do we turn to when mou is gone? It is a very worrying proposition. I just hope we can get in the best dof available and at least improve our strategy and recruitment and go from there.
I think their main problem was the fact their whole team got old at the same time and they didn't have replacements ready. Then SAF left at the exact time when change was needed anyways. Also, those last couple of title winning saf teams didn't exactly destroy every team in Europe, they were mainly very good at grinding out 1-0 wins on a very consistent basis
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"All his transfers were great"

Isn't United s**t in defence and Mou bought 2 of them? He also got Alexis and he plays like a pylon. But yeah I guess his transfers were great if you're playing FIFA.
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Bailly is a great defender IMO. But he has injury problems. He was great last season whenever he played. This season also he played few games only. United defense have lots of dead wood in Jones, Smalling, Valencia etc. They need to be upgraded.

Sanchez might be playing bad but Matic, Pogba and Fred have made that midfield strong. Lukaku is also good option in attack. They might not be playing to their potential for any reason but I would say that these were good signings.
I read somewhere that Big Sam is getting readied to save Man Utd.
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Lads, its United.
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Ha! Cold rainy nights in Manchester.
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Fellaini, Matic, Lukaku, Smalling, Pogba...the new orcs
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I think we’ve all known for a while now that PSG are frauds but jeez that was just embarrassing. Maybe it was the Anfield factor because Liverpool weren’t playing their best and yet PSG seemed to be jogging about. They didn’t have any sort of coherent plan of attack. It was like watching Burnley if Burnley cost 750 million.

It’s just an experiment in extreme branding at this point. Same with Neymar. You ask top3 players in the world and so many people would shoehorn Neymar in there. If you really think about it and watch him play I mean the guy ain’t it. He’s not the best dribbler, passer shooter anything. He just has cool hair, style, name recognition and a brilliant PR team behind him. I’d rather watch league 2 than PSG.
But that is exactly what the owners want from PSG. Brand exposure and advertising. They are domination France and goes far in Europe. IMO its all about PR for such owners.

When it comes to Neymar, he was s**t agaisnt Liverpool but he is a world class player. He is just lazy, and he is not Ronaldo to be able to pull that off. I can see him at Madrid very soon.
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his international goals record for brazil speaks for itself, neymar is a top top player but he probably shouldn't have left barca, french league sucks and you wont improve without rigorous challenge and competition.
^ Pretty much

@Khessler, Neymar at Barca was top 3 but Neymar at PSG isn't. Everything you mentioned that he isn't, he was at Barca. Par the goals, he was one of the best dribblers in Europe, a nightmare for defenders as you remember how he owned us when Barca played us in UCl a few years back.

The thing about him is, he still hasn't hit his peak. His still only 26 but he really should force a move out of PSG but I really don't how that would even happen. Who ever bothers to make a move better be ready to break the transfer fee record once more.
Better clear your day b/c you'll want to watch Zlatan's 500th goal all damn day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lSQbN0O80o

Him and Rooney are both lighting up the MLS this year. Call it the retirement league and say anything else about the quality, but these stars on the tail end of their career are making this sport into something great here in the states!
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Wow, you weren't exaggerating, that was sensational. Yep that and the Rooney tackle/assist to save the empty netter were really amazing
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Yeah only a small handful of players have probably ever scored a goal like that so nonchalantly, and it was his 500th! True showman.
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Awesome roundhouse kick! Walker, Texas Ranger would be proud.
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Ahh Walker Texas Ranger, now that's a legend right there.
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13
10
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