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Mourinho on beIN sports:

"It is very easy to play well and not win, it is very easy to be behind a certain idea of a certain football without results.

"The people that win and the people that win consistently - because you can win isolated and then disappear - has obviously a different idea about that.

"If you speak about (Pep) Guardiola, (Carlo) Ancelotti, about one where obviously I belong, that have a career of victories for a long, long period, where are the young ones with a real impact in terms of results? Where are they?"

P.S. The man has a point! Where are Klopp, Poch or others?
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Well to be fair to Klopp, he did win in Germany and is in the race now, even though he's lost like 6 straight finals.

I don't think it has a ton to do with age, honestly. The game is more about style and system, and pragmatism has decreased all throughout the league to a degree. Even clubs like Wolves want to play well.

As Jose saw, the challenge is different. As much as you have to get results, you almost have to do it while catering to the players.
So, No more boring 0-0 big games, No more digs and provocation at rival manager. No more press meets whining about players and board , No more discussion about who spent how much.

Happy and healthy league is back ??😊
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Football-wise and otherwise, Jose does sort of represent a passing era in English football. There's not a ton of animosity between the top 6 teams (outside the fans) and their coaches and players. There's more outward mutual respect than in the past.

There's not any Giggses, Terrys, Gerrards to drive rivalries forward, and nor are there many individual feuds reminiscent of SAF/Wenger, Keane/Viera, Mou/Benitez, etc.

It's an interesting time for the league, and as United are currently seeing, it's all about "feeling good" to make a title challenge. The league is driven by tactics and systems just as much if not more than rivalries or personalities.
Joey a little bit rivalry and controversy is ok...but He will burn his own house down in attempt to hurt others.

Anyways glad as a neutrals we don’t have to watch boring big games anymore
Sounds like you miss Jose.

This new era of fans from different teams holding hands and singing kumbaya is kinda lame
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Yes sir we are new ear and not old school like you :) and yes i miss him and wish he had atleast stayed until end of season.
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well drama is more compelling, up until a certain point.
Football needs characters, like Ibra, Mou, & Balo. Whether we like him or not, the league has lost one of the best managers, in fact he's the only one who could rival Pep in terms of success. The others don't even come close.
Marcelo Bielsa sent someone to spy on Derby.

He said he has been doing this kind of stuff since 2002. WOW

"Derby boss Frank Lampard says it also happened when his side met Leeds earlier in the season"

Perfect manager for Leeds. Always cheating...
Brilliant unique manager. And I think him bringing a massive club like Leeds back to the Premier League is bloody awesome.
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Since when has scouting been considered "spying"?
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@Lfcguy Scouts usually dont peek into training sessions that too with pliers.

He should be banned. This is unprofessional.
Scouting?
Only if scouting means spying and tresspassing.
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Yes, scouting, and analysis, lots of it

https://www.football365.com/news/full-transcript-from-bielsas-70-minute-spygate-lecture
I dont care how much analysis he is doing, he was spying. You dont need to trespass to 'scout'.
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https://youtu.be/YAjvADXGuxE?t=799

poch is asked if not spending and keeping standards up is a key strength of his management style and his players, since if spurs dont buy this window, their only purchase in 2 years would be lucas moura.

very candid response, and this is what i was trying to say before about club ambition. clearly poch wants to win, his staff want to win, his players want to win trophies. obviously the club would love that, but thats not the ambition of the club, thats not the goal he was tasked with achieving 5 years ago. but spurs objectives and spending has not changed in 5 seasons, and although the team has improved, the manager has improved, the club is still operating in the same way and it needs to change in order to compete for titles in the future. That's as clear as it gets.

they've done a fantastic job getting to this level, but the club's ambition needs to raise to match that of the players and staff, and that means investment in the squad. so don't tell me spurs have ambition to win the league, sure they'd love to, but they are not preparing for that outcome year in year out and will lose players and staff if something doesn't change.
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Tell me, how could you see us improving our current squad? What would this elusive "ambition" by our club do to improve our team?

3 fantastic goalies
the four best full-backs in the league.
Alde, Jan, Sanchez, Foyth for 2 CB positions.
Dembele, Dier, Winks, Sissoko for CM.
Son, Dele, Lucas, Eriksen, Lamela for 3 AM positions.
Harry Kane with Llorente and Son if Kane gets injured (which he doesn't).



@paddy your assessment of the players is debatable. If that were so you’d be running away with the league. Don’t you agree.

You’d need consistent world class players even in backup positions if you were to launch a sustained long term aatck for the title. Sounds tacky but money investments can definitely get you some ways to that goal :D even though I agree it is just part of the equation. I am assuming what SIF is saying is that Spurs have decidedly ignored that part of the equation - which suggests that sustained dominance is not the ultimate goal for the club. No disrespect meant you’ve probably achieved more than any team can in today’s era with zero net investment.
So basically, Daniel Levy must be a complete idiot. He has no idea where the hell he's taking the mighty Spurs. Bring back the Alan Sugar days and Juande Ramos too please, he delivered a trophy, did he not?!
Tomikato Not at all. I'm saying all of those players have performed as well as a title challenging, trophy chasing team's players need to.

What's held us back this season has been a stupid number of injuries to key players ( probably more than any other team in the top 6) and the fact that we're playing at Wembley.

Don't write us off yet. Do you question Liverpool's ability to sustain a title charge? I doubt it. Now look at their back ups for each position and convince me they're better than ours.
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I think current Spurs team is good enough to win at least one major trophy. They might have to spend money in replacing Alderweireld or Vertoghen or Erikson if they leave.
https://youtu.be/YAjvADXGuxE?t=799

i went to the trouble of linking the question (13:19) and response but it didn't translate over in the OP.

and yes spurs have come close and can win something this season, but thats not the point. the point is spurs can prepare better to give themselves a better chance of winning. right now the pressure to win is from the staff and fans and players, not the club. but asking to maintain standards and compete with city and liverpool etc is just not realistic without spending to maintain and improve the squad. it's possible, but difficult and unrealistic to expect spurs to maintain these performances. thats why most pundits dont even consider spurs title contenders despite the small points difference from city and liverpool.
One factor that we've stumbled to win a trophy in the past few years have actually been because of Poch's tactics and reluctance to react and change things, when plan A doesn't work.
But he has been given a long term project to build up Spurs to where we're supposed to be. And he is absolutely on track with that. It would be very fickle if he abandoned it, as soon as a richer club is waving the cash.

How long would Poch be allowed to go trophyless at United or Madrid?
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SIF I ask again, how could we improve our current squad in your eyes? who in our squad has been playing last season and this season and needs replacing?
clearly poch has ideas for investment to improve the squad, it's not really for me to answer. ask poch this question. sure you have good players, and sure poch is getting a lot out of his squad. can he get better players, is this the best squad in the league?
Paddy is spot-on...Spurs actually dont need to spend just for sake of spending like other big managers do. I think the only reason they have not won anything yet is players dont have winning mentality as nobody has every won anything yet.

Poch could easily go to United and spend half the money Jose spend to experience players like Zlatan , Matic , Pogba etc and win cups
Yeah the winning mentality is an issue that Poch hasn't quite instilled yet.

and sif no, we don't have the best squad in the league. But if the team with the 'best' set of individuals won the Premier League every year, I for one wouldn't be so obsessed with football.

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more to the point, he says you always need to refresh the squad to maintain motivation and performance levels. some players are as motivated as they were under day 1 of his regime, some players need a new voice and a new challenge after 1 season, etc. it's not all about talent, but hunger and the mentality to improve.
Sit back and enjoy the football and let Spurs themselves worry about trophies and the direction taken.
I'm not worried about spurs, I was finding evidence to support my claim that spurs don't have ambition to win the league in the near future. Their fans were trying to suggest this is all in the master plan by levy when really poch and players are overacheiving by a long shot.
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All of the top 6 teams can have a plan about winning the league. It doesn't mean it's realistic this year or the next, for any others than City and Liverpool. In that respect Spurs has surprised and overachieved in the past few years. Nobody expected us to be up there right now either, especially after not buying a single player last summer. But as soon as Levy starts throwing serious money into a title bid the game changes. Pochettino has not won a trophy yet, not necessarily any crisis. The day the millions are thrown into it, he will need to deliver those trophies, in addition to top 4 finishes.
@Northstream - are you not kind of making SIF's point for him?

If, by your own statement, Poch does not have to deliver any tangible success until millions are thrown into it then, by extension, the lack of millions being thrown in hints at a lack of ambition or, in other words, settling for top 4.

Are we then saying that Spurs are doing an Arsenal?
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Why can't people understand that Pochettino was given a long-term project? The money will come but Spurs weren't expected to be genuine title challengers so early on. They have assembled a fantastic squad on a shoestring and the manager is doing a great job with them.
As a genuine question, Wingson, when do we define a long-term project as having taken too much time, or is it simply an "until it works or doesn't" qualifier?
The club is in a transition period, after having fallen behind financially. The project has gone step by step since even before Redknapp. We are again competitive, domestically and in Europe. We have possibly the best training centre in Europe and about to move into a world class stadium. We're in the process of becoming a regular Champions League team and adding some trophies is the natural next step. All the while we've continued to play the exciting Spurs brand of football, have not been breaking the bank in the process and have kept developing and promoting youth. What is there not to like about this and why does outsiders criticize? Is it jealousy of the project and of the individuals who've developed at Tottenham?

@Joeymac The project is taking too long or starts failing when it's stalling or going backwards. While we're still moving forward it's on the right track.

@Deffyduck Levy has had to prioritise where the millions go and not risk breaking the club's back in what would likely have been seen as an unrealistic title bid.
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I have kind of mixed feeling about this, because it seems very much like Arsenal circa 2008. Play nice football and look good on the eye but ultimately held back by financial constraints (whether self imposed through philosophy or borne out of necessity) and unable to ever be serious contenders, rather settling for nearly-rans.

The purist in me would love for a team to win the league without pumping £1bn into the squad (I absolutely loved when Leicester did it, it was just surreal) but the realist in me says that you need a perfect storm of favourable fixtures, lack of injuries, lack of distracting competitions and the other big boys to collectively have a bad season.

If this doesn't happen, you better do all you can to give yourself the best shot at success. Not buying a single outfield player (something we're both guilty of in recent seasons) is tantamount to negligence, unless you REALLY believe that there isn't a single spot in your 25-man squad that can be improved.

Spurs have the opportunity to do what Arsenal were too cowardly to do for the last 10 years and really have a go at it. Buy those two or three players you need to give you that boost, it's supplementing a well-groomed and well-assembled squad and can make the difference.

I think if it goes on like this, the likes of Eriksen, Aldeweireld, Vertonghen will have to conclude that Spurs is not the place to win, but just compete.
You assume that Spurs can identify players better than they've got, and that they want to come to Spurs.
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@Wingson It doesnt have to be signing someone better. There should be enough quality players to rotate the team. Players like Kane, Alli might need some rest when team is playing 2-3 games a week.

Personally I think what Spurs have done so far is great. But it is vital they keep their players. Currently they have a well set team. If any of their main players leave, either club will have to splash money or sign potential players who might or might not become great. This might risk making a choice between Top 4 or financial stability.
@Deffy - you made the very exact point.

Leicester were able to do it in one year - but could NOT sustain it. In fact, the title only accelerated their demise, with their players cherry picked in the seasons following the win.

I think the crux is the sustainability. With other clubs spending and strengthening constantly it is very difficult to sustain if your strategy does not have a component of investment in it. Even if Spurs win the EPL this year or next, SIF's point still holds. Clubs cannot sustain without constant improvement and sufficient backup these days. While Spurs' approach is certainly nothing but worthy of respect, it is questionable in terms of being a super power for the years to come. The setup is actually quite fragile. For example, if they lose Kane or Eriksen that messes things up pretty quickly.
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And where is Arsenal and United (and Chelsea) in all this? They have splashed the cash, they've got the stars. Meanwhile Spurs have been around the league title for the past few years, as well as playing in the Champions League. How people can make a negative spin on what Spurs have done seems plain odd.
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Totally did not mean to make this a negative spin on Spurs. Sorry if that's how this sounds! This is pretty much saying that you have everything in place to take the next step - but without investment that step is fleeting at best (even if you win a title or trophy here and there). In terms of money pumped in vs achievements, I don't know if there is an equal. However, that 'no money pumped in' is really hurting your bigger long term prospects.
Yeah don't mistake this as me taking a dig, but what Spurs are currently doing is exactly what Arsenal did for years - be "around" the league title and in the UCL for years but only really there to make up the numbers.

I'm saying this because I see the exact same situation unfolding that we had to endure. I take your point that the likes of Arsenal, Utd and Chelsea are not on par with Liverpool and City but we're making efforts at least. Looking to improve the squad and breed competition for places drives improved performances.

If you finish 2nd/3rd and don't make any changes, you're standing still while everyone else catches up. Am I the only one who sees this is Arsenal 2.0? If Eriksen or Kane decide they have a better shot at success elsewhere then you'll have a fight to get back to square one.

Walker went and won a league title in his first season at City. If they should decide Eriksen would be a good replacement for David Silva can you really make a persuasive argument for Spurs over City?

Or for example say Kane to Madrid. Alderweireld to Barca. Read the transcript of van Persie's message to Arsenal fans when he left to Utd. I hated it back then but now I understand what he meant. He knew the club were not going to even try to compete, so he got out while he could.

Again, investments for players and raised salaries will be the next step. But Spurs will never be one of the clubs who's to break transfer records as a buyer.
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Its very clear from the first half of the season - There are 3 teams that are well drilled in their playing philosophy and 3 other teams in transition. And there is a giant killer too.
is the giant killer wolves? They play such great football :D
yes.
Chelsea and City need to sort out their youth policy. City bought Mahrez when Sancho is proving a better player, now Diaz is leaving them too and Chelsea look like losing Odoi (imo the best of the three) now that they've bought Pulisic. Such a shame
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Chelsea youth team had won like 5 FA youth cups in a row. I think its due to the culture of certain football clubs. Also it really had to bring through academy players and win the big prizes. If you want to compete for the league and europe, no manager will be able to give chances to young players regularly (unless its part of your clubs identity and the fans demand it)
cant believe bayern is trying to buy a chelsea youth product, why isnt he getting game time?
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CHO is a great talent for a 18 year old. But he is not ready to be a regular yet. He will be in 1-2 years. He has to be improve in some areas like shooting. It is not as if he hasn't played any this season. He has played in almost all Europa group stage games, community shield, 1 or 2 PL games and FA cup last weekend. He is likely to play against Spurs today too.

Also signing Pulisic doesnt mean CHO will not get any chance. Willian and Pedro are in 30s. They both will be replaced by Pulisic and CHO if he stays. All 3 of Hazard, Pulisic and CHO can play at both wings which will be an additional advantage. Also we are not sure about Hazard's future.
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Ah ok, I'd never heard of him until recently. Didnt think he was getting any games, I forgot about Europa but I did see him in the FA cup highlights.
Alrighty, half the season gone. Which teams are you predicting to get relegated?


-Huddersfield
-Cardiff
-Newcastle
Burnley
Hudderfield
Liverpool
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I think Cardiff is going to stay up.

Huddlesfield and Fulham to go down. The third one is Southhampton or Burnly IMO.
lmao moe!
Huddesfield,Burnley and Southampton
I think it'll be Huddersfield, Fulham, and Southampton.

It's a tossup for Fulham, Burnley, and Southampton but Huddersfield is definitely going down.

Newcastle will stay up I think, same with Cardiff.
Southampton will be safe, thier new manager has revolutionised the team
Southampton was a tough game for us even under hughes. I think they struggle for goals but should have enough to stay up.

my predictions are huddersfield burnley and cardiff
Was just thinking. Haven't seen a post from FootballIsCity for a while.....
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@paddy you are flame baiting buddy. Not allowed.
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How on earth could there be another monetary topic to cover?
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Lol u guys. Knock it off. The only monetary topic is the money I lost on my team.
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come on Tomikato, this is banter and isn't aggressive. We're allowed to jab City when they finally lose a couple of games!!!
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Can't wait to ask him if Pep's centurion title "didn't really count" since apparently City had no real competition last year

The way I see it, if that guy hasn't been banned by now, pretty much anything is free game right?
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@paddy of course you can jab at city. Calling out footballiscity directly is inciting him. We don’t want that - do we? I have to be consistent regardless of what I think of him as a user.

Also please tell me you don’t equate him to the city fan base. That would not be nice at all

On a related note - if he is fine with this sort of banter then I have no qualms. Just making sure we are not starting another meaningless war on this page. I don’t mean to be a party pooper at all
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I called him out because my banter was directed at him (like I would have directed it at you if you'd been spouting religious love and admiration for City on the Premier League forum!). But I get your point mate.

And no I don't equate him to any fan base, he's certainly his own man haha.
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@PaddySpurs4Life its cool man some banter is ok as long as its nothing personal. I agree City hasn't been doing as well as we hoped but its football, anything can happen. In a couple months the table standings might change. At the moment Liverpool has that red hot Salah that doesn't seem to stop scoring plus he took his team to the last 16 by scoring the only goal against Napoli, incredible player. Best in the EPL for sure.

It may seem like "City is signing every player there is and must win the title every year" But someone that follows City closely knows that we lost 4 full backs in Kolarov, Sagna, Clichy and Zabaletta and replaced them with just 3 Danilo Walker and Mendy. Mendy has been out injured for the 2nd year in a row so we are left with just 2 full backs and they are both right backs so we play midfielders like Delph in that position. We lost Yaya and never replaced him and now we rely on Fernandinho who is turning 34 years old in a few months, he can't physically play 60+ games per season considering his age. We should have signed a Yaya replacement even though we missed out with Jorginho cos he wanted to follow his coach Sarri there were other options out there. And should have signed a back up to Mendy considering he is out for the whole of 2nd season now.

That said no excuses Liverpool are a better team overall at the moment, they have conceded just 7 goals after 19 games. If they score as many points in the 2nd half of the season (51) they will break our centurion season record.

@Joeymac I was on this forum wayyyyy before you so I know the rules and what not to do to get banned and I have to say the likes of @Tony, @Khaled7 and many others represented the United fan base much better than the current crop.

Enjoy football boys I have been a bit busy lately. Sorry for not being as active.
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barbie doll fans cringe /puke
the era of sjw entitled easily offended snowflakes has invaded football.
RIP

Pls tomikato there's no option to delete one's account. delete mine if you don't mind thank you.
You: "Member since 2017"
Me: "Member since 2009"
You: "I was on this forum wayyyy before you"

You live in a post-truth kind of world, don't you. Either that, or you do know more than me about what it takes to get banned, if you get my drift. Snitch in disguise?
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You: "member since 2009"
Me: "Member since 2006"

You have brought the Snitch argument many times before and I told you not Snitch. Snitch wasn't here in 2006, he joined later on. I miss him though, he was funny. Let me guess he left of got banned because of you?
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@Maxmaxima - stop whining dude. If you cringe so much stop posting. No need to patronize.

@Joey - Snitch wasn't actually banned. He left on his own accord.

@Footballiscity - tenure does not get you any favors on this site. So the argument is of no particular value.
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Sorry for the defamation, Snitch.
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lol you guys are to much
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Oh I remember that name.. snitch. Was he a rat? Or the golden snitch in Harry Potter? Never quite worked it out.
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Will City outbid United in the battle for Pochettino?!
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That makes zero sense
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Yeah I'm a bit confused on that one Wingson buddy
Pep won't stay at City forever. Poch might stay longer at Spurs.


Blast from the past lol. 13-14 season. :D
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gettin' nervous huh? ;)
Of course, total squeaky bum if you may :D

time to revel in some old comebacks and hope for the best
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Might want to put Son's face up there now that Spurs are closer
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funny the jerseys are reversed in the meme
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^^Fail
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Slippys face lol
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