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Anyone notice that Spurs and Feyenoord can be drawn in the same group in the UEL draw?

Rivalry rekindled?
Can someone educate me about this rivalry? what's it about?
The last time Liverpool were in the Champions League, English football was at its peak, with at least 3 English teams regularly making the QFs. With the draw, it looks as though all four 'should' make the last 16, and from there, it's all about luck and concentration, with most players' quality at that stage beyond any serious doubt. Liverpool should be happy just getting to the last 16, and that looks a real possibility, but Basel are notorious giant-killers and English teams' bogey side. Chelsea will get through as always, and will be able to get far in the knockout rounds as long as they don't face the big three. Manchester City have a tricky group, but we have to believe we are a league above Roma/CSKA. The main thing that will stop us is our knowledge of our recent CL disappointments, which could play on our minds and add a bit of pressure. Arsenal will get through, but can't see any way they'll get much further unless they sign a top-notch DM.
Do not underestimate Roma, they play with alot of heart and have a pretty strong and talented squad. At full capacity, the Stadio Olimpico will be daunting for any visitor!

Unless Roma choke big time, they should give city a very tough time. You are talking about a UCL regular after all. Before this 3 year absence they would be in the UCL almost every season and would always be tricky!
Roma looks very strong!
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE GROUP STAGE

A: Atletico Madrid, Juventus, Olympiakos, Malmo
B: Real Madrid, Basel, Liverpool, Ludogorets
C: Benfica, Zenit, Leverkusen, Monaco
D: Arsenal, Dortmund, Galatasaray, Anderlecht
E: Bayern Munich, CSKA Moscow, Man City, Roma
F: Barcelona, PSG, Ajax, APOEL
G: Chelsea, Schalke, Sporting, Maribor
H: Porto, Shakhtar, Athletic Bilbao, BATE
MATCH DATES:
Matchday 1: Sept. 16, 17
Matchday 2: Sept. 30, Oct. 1
Matchday 3: Oct. 21, 22
Matchday 4: Nov. 4, 5
Matchday 5: Nov. 25, 26
Matchday 6: Dec. 9, 10
Too many repeating fixtures...look at the group E, pretty much the same group from last year with the exception of Roma...
Fairly decent draws for english teams, except man city of course
Arsenal & Man City in tough group..again

Chelsea got it easy...again :D ;p

Liverpool..well, u guys were unbeaten against Real Madrid..but don't count out Basel either
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Arsenals group isn't too tough, last year was worse... Galatasary dont have Drogba anymore, and Anderlecht, well i dont know, dont really watch them

And for dortmund, all we need to do is take Klopps glasses and then run away

SORTED
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We've got the toughest. Traveling to Moscow and playing there is never a guaranteed win and is a strain on the players playing midweek games. Bayern are always a massive threat and Roma is one hell of a team with quality talent and are not going to be an easy team to beat. Every single game counts for City, every single point.
Ronaldo is going to have his hands full against Johnson
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Johnson won't be starting against Madrid. Way to much of a liability defensively.
are you doubting Johnson like that
CR7 will struggle
:)
If Johnson starts against Madrdid....
CR7 will be invincible
Johnsons decent defensively. He sucks at going forward. All of man citys attacks came from liverpools left side. Same as southampton in the first week.
I think the word u r looking for is invisible.
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Why is he still at Liverpool?? His been a liability for a long time and I thought Liverpool would sell him this summer. He can't preform well for club and country in big games and he ain't getting better.
Raj, I assume you haven't seen a lot of GJ. He has always been a liability defensively but his remarkable technique and ability at going forward is what kept him at LFC since we're more of an attacking team. Now he lost that and became crap alltogether.
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Man City vs Bayern again, Arsenal vs Dortmund again, L'pool vs RM
good matches to watch
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For lovers of football...

Alexis Sanchez v Besiktas:
http://youtu.be/A28zavCPhsM

Those 2nd half highlights are must watch.
First of many goals
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he is gonna be proper beast in 5-6 months.
Ignore the goal, just watch the 2nd half.
That beast is already proper.
I was really surprised by his tenacity and overall strength. Plus he was running all over the place, he seems really fit this early in the season.

(Next game, gets injured.)
Tottenham seemed defensively good so far.

Dier, Fazio, Davies.. Great signings
Dier is a beast, I mean two games and he hasn't put a foot wrong and his got 2 goals to his name.
The signings all made sense.

1) Dier: Young, English and looks to have a composed way of approaching the game. A "risk" of 5 million euros is absolutely nothing to take. He's getting a lot of recognition in the first two games, but he's got a long way to go. He freezes up a little at CB against the aerial ball and against corners. He's a work in progress, but as long as he keeps training hard, I see no reason why he cannot play as well as he's done for prolonged periods.

2) Fazio: We were looking suspect aerially. Enter Fazio for 10 million euros. 77% header win ratio in the La Liga. Excellent player to have against teams that like to lob the ball up to the forward or cross a lot.

3) Davies : We had just one LB last season. People claimed Vertonghen was a left back, but I've seen fewer LBs worse than Jan. He's truly appalling there... attitude, caught out against dribblers and gives up far too easily when playing LB. Once Rose got injured, we got screwed. Corrected that right away this season with a very shrewd signing of Davies. He's got different set of skills from Rose, and as a consequence of his signing, Rose has improved a decent bit over the summer in a bid to keep his place.

4) Vorm : Excellent buy as a second choice keeper, in case Hugo ever gets injured or to play in the cup games.

Good sensible buys without throwing a wad of cash at players. I'm a happy mutant :)
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Fancied Dier since his days at Sporting Lisbon, I'm happy to see him in the bpl, great signing by Spurs.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv_gqVjIcAAKy17.jpg

Surprise!

edit: I just noticed there are a ton of these pics already. No harm meant United fans, these periods happen to the best clubs. Barça went through it in the 2002-2003 season, Dortmund in the pre-Klopp era. Hell, in England all the top clubs have been through rougher patches for far longer in the past two decades. The rarity of United going through a bad spell makes it so funny. You'll be back soon.
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How dare you, yellow card.
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Would have been better if if was Woodward.
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Even MK Dons fans trolled united

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwHepZECIAAEbGW.jpg:small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwHepcqCQAAUbK9.jpg:small
They basically played our U-21.

I'm not going to say it's a Mickey mouse cup.A cup is a cup,each one matters,sad to go out.

But i'm not worried with LVG at helm,he gives us a sense of hope to turn things around and it has already begun,with Moyes it was nothing,no hope of coming back,just slipping down and down.

Most successful team will always have the most haters :p

I wish them luck because they won't be seeing it much again...

Here are the pots for the CL draw tomorrow. Who would you like your team to get?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwE3TZcCAAAchah.jpg:large
I'd take Basel and Olympiakos (we get them so often) from the first two pots, last pot I don't know. There are a few teams there I don't know enough about, I'd have to go with Ludogorets despite their amazing win today.

For you my freind, it would have to be Bayern, Atletic Bilbao and Roma. Enjoy :D
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^^ Hahaha...no thank you my friend...the strongest team in pot 4 is Roma. We can't draw Dortmund because they are in the 2nd pot too. But yeah, there is a possibility of us being in the group of death:

1.Real/Bayern/Barca
2.City
3. A. Bilbao
4. Roma

Hopefully we get:

1. Porto or Benfica
2.City
3. Sporting or Ajax
4.Any team, except Roma :)
Benfica are the weakest in pot 1 by a mile, it's strange to see them there. Sanogo hit them for four :P
^UEFA cup/europa league co-eff pts
This will never happen with Arsenal's luck

Arsenal
Basel
Sporting
Ludogorets/NK maribor
i would like to see

Barcelona
Juventus/Dortmund/PSG
liverpool
Monaco
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Lol Why are you so scared of Roma Foooty? Football is played on the day, as long as each team plays at their best that should be good enough.
Im honestly not trying to spark a fight or any kind of quarrel with this comment. Considering that the last 3 months for Arsenal have been absolutely magisterial and they have been top notch, it will be a serious disaster and letdown if they dont qualify for UCL today.
And we just did quality for the UCL group stage for the 17th time in a row :D
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Good, looking forward to a match with the new and improved side.
How does Sanchez run all game constantly, damn the guy has one hell of a an engine
"Magisterial" haha. Someone has been listening to Ray Hudson's biased Barca coverage a little too much.
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i think it has to do with the environment where he grew up playing football. i think he must be from somewhere in chile with high altitude like valencia in equador. his body must be used to running on thin air so operating at sea level must be a breeze for him.
+1
Best announcer of all time dougie! :)


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