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Some interesting and great matches to look forward to in the CL group stages:

PSG v Real
Juve v City
Bayern v Arsenal
Chelsea v Porto

Which one do you most look forward to watch?
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Chelsea v Porto #nobias

Definitely not Bayern v Arsenal lol, PSG v RM would be interesting and would be a good chance to gauge PSG's development since getting knocked out by Barca.
Haha...understandable, seems-like Bayern plays Arsenal every year at some stage of the CL.
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Chelsea vs Porto because Mourinho coming back to Porto and the drama between Mourinho vs Casillas
I'm not one for football drama and cares more about the football so I'll say Juve v City or PSG v Real. Could be very entertaining.
Looks like La Liga has 5 teams in the UCL.
Madrid
Barca
Sevilla
Atletico
Valencia

I thought each nation was limited to 4?

OH yes That rule comes in now, EUROPA League winners gain automatic qualification to the UCL group stage of the following season.

Good show from La Liga.

I'm interested: Did you edit that after realising about the Europa League rule, or did you just publish your thought process?
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Match Day 3 roundup:
https://youtu.be/EI23WGNSf0U
i see 3 of the top 4 dropping points this weekend.
Manchester City vs Watford - City win
Leicester City vs AFC Bournemouth - City win
Liverpool vs West Ham - Liverpool win(slight chance of a draw)
Manchester United vs Swansea - idk tbh
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3-0 for swansea
3-2 bournmouth
1-0 West ham.
A city win hopefully.
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You wish :)
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Why are we not in there, Arsenal are always top 4 right?
^top 4 refers to the teams who are in the top 4 positions right now. City, Leicester, Liverpool, and Utd

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Still ugly...
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Group F -

Arsenal, Bayern Munich, Olympiakos, Dinamo Zagreb

Group G -

Chelsea, Porto, Dynamo Kiev, Maccabi Tel Aviv

Group B -

Man Utd, PSV, CSKA Moscow, Wolfsburg

Group D -

Man City, Juve, Sevilla, Borussia Monchengladbach

I don't see any problems for English teams to get through to the round of 16...But City and Arsenal will have tough time getting the top spot.
Manchester united always weasel their way into one of the, if not the easiest group every year. Even being in pot 2 they managed to pull PSV from pot 1.
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Ya. We rigged it again!
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Man City:
Not as bad as previous years but its still a group where you cannot afford any slip ups.

Arsenal:
This is just as easy as Chelsea's group imo. One biggie and two poories. Arsenal have Olympiacos's number and Zagreb is one of the poorest teams in the comp. Will be shocked if they don't get 9-12 points from these two games.

Chelsea:
Another relatively easy under the radar group stage campaign. Downside is the massive travel schedule to the likes of Israel and Kiev which could affect us in the Prem. Unlike before, this time we'v earned the easy group by winning the title last season.

Man Utd:
They don't have any standout tough games but they also don't have any easy games. Dutch champions, Russia and one of the in-form teams in Germany for this calendar year. Don't see how they weaseled into any kind of easy pushover group.
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Looks easy for Arsenal to get through to next round...But getting top spot is almost impossible. IMO Bayern have strengthen with vidal and it would take something special to beat them to top spot
City got the toughest group.
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@Khessler

Have United ever had a tough group? In 1999 we had Barca and Bayern Munich in the same group. Also we regularly played against Juventus too.

It's only over the last five years we've been fairly decent except for the time where we didn't even qualify so I don't why you even bother to say such stuff.

If you want to be the best you have to beat the best. That's what Man City will need to do to avoid having such groups. I believe Man City are yet to reach into the last 16 right?
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^^Did you take a break from CL along with United last year lol...in the past two years, we had reached the last 16 and then got knocked out by Barcelona on both occasions.
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Gracias Footy.
And Sorry about that one group in 99 but city have been in the top 3 for the last five years and have gotten arguably the group of death everytime. The season we did better than united they always sneak into the top 16 with the easiest group. Its easy for united to progress because they have an easy group come in first and play an easier opponent. City have to struggle against one of the best teams in the world and each time we got out go the group we played i think barce and bayern both years. Honestly Stoke city could go as far in the champions league as united with the same luck.
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United's group is not as easy as people are making it out to be. Wolfsburg, PSV are no pushovers.
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Wolfsburg are getting raided this summer.
Ya, Bendtner will be a top striker for them at this rate.
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@Khessler By you lol, so stop making it easier for them!
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@Footy - Very good but Man City's time in the Champions League has been relatively short so until you progress into the latter stages you'll be facing tough opponents. Once you break the camels back then you'll have 'easier' groups.

Chelsea probably have the easiest group and though Manchester United's looks easy I think it will prove to be a challenging group for us.
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Khessler I'm sorry bro I find your argument lacking the smallest bit of merit.

The seeding system of the CL needs to be understood. Why City is always in a lower tier pot to be "unfortunate" enough to be drawn against the so called Super teams?

I am not well vest in the knowledge of how teams other than the League winners are thrown into their pots I have heard it has to do with past CL performances.

I think it is unfortunate to call the United group easy because your team drew a group with seemingly stronger opposition.

I think the analysis of the circumstances goes beyond that. Right now City are playing the best football in the Premier league, and I will go on to add that it is much better than your group opponents. A match today against either of those teams I'd put my money on City.

However the games come later and apart, a lot may happen between now and then.

On the other hand though coming from a good victory to qualify I think United has a tough time against it's opponents. We are not sturdy at the back and we have an attack that is not yet on its feet despite Rooney's hat trick.

I think players (people in general) thrive under some pressure and it may be an incentive to push players to a higher level if they believe they are playing in a tough group.

I'd prefer the "tough" draw over an "easy" one any day.

But PSV, Wolfsburg and CSKA Moscow deserve more respect, especially the latter considering you guys lost to them last time out in Russia.

2011/12 United lost out to basel on last 16 qualification I don't remember many people calling the group easy after that, yet Basel did earn it's spot on the pitch where it matters, not on paper.
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I'm gonna stick my neck out and say

City
Sevilla
Juventus
Gladbach
Top to bottom, don't think our group is easier than Chelsea's or Arsenal's. City the toughest, once again, but you gotta beat the best to be the best anyway. That goes for everyone.
Benitez's Diet, Vampire=Suarez, Ashes and Pedro POEM!
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Everton once again acting tough and not letting Stones go into the cold
But like the vampire on the red side of Merseyside he too will be sold

And if us landing Stones is still in doubt
We could just contact Ed Woodward to help us out

From a football perspective I was impressed with Firminho, quite the star
From a hairstyle perspective he looks like a poor man's Neymar

Mignolet's time wasting was driving Arsenal fans loony
His first touch from the ball boy was better than any from Wayne Rooney

Arsenal got a goal disallowed because the linesman was looking away
Like Toure when he passed to Nasri as they made Everton pay

Chelsea finally won at the Hawthorns but not without casualties
Mourinho struggling with the P's? Pedro sure disagrees

Chelsea's defense remains leakier than a fishing net
But Terry's red did have one good reason to not get upset

It enabled him to get down to the Oval for the Ashes presentation
And take part in another trophy ceremony cause thats his tradition

For Chelsea's second goal Diego must have run about 100 meters
As Ivanovic continues to make average players look like world beaters

United getting criticized for playing poorly after all of their acquisition
But I'm sure we'll see a new United when plan B comes back from suspension

Madrid started the season with a nil nil that was slightly grim
Under new manager Benitez, thats an unusual result for him

Cause normally hes so attacking and a genius in unlocking defensive bricks
With a diet thats actually worse than Cristiano Ronaldo's free kicks

:P
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Btw, i haven't done one of these in a while, I usually poke fun of any team/player/manager that I can (even Chelsea). Its just for fun and not to be taken seriously at all.

http://www.footytube.com/forums/the-stands-general-footy-banter/bluffmasters-football-poems-26375/?ref=head_forums
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Southampton feeling the 'Europa curse'?
Will it last or will they be able to juggle the 2 competitions? It's the first time in their history that they've encountered this.
Players wants to leave and that's hurting S'oton
Europa will screw them over this season. I can see them struggling like everton last season
In the PL manager sack race, who do you think will get the first sack this year?

Maybe Sunderland's manager whose name I read at first as "Dick Advocate" lol but it's actually Dick Advocaat.

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LOL @ "dick advocate"
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Watford manager.
I have a feeling Mourinho won't last till December.
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Not even viagra will keep Dick and Sunderland up the season. So he will be gone in no time.
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brendan Rodgers or Louis van Gaal has to get sacked. if they cannot pick up some more goals then the loses have to come eventually.
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Dick will be first to go
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who'll cum out first? the dick.
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^ Lol
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Louie is not going anywhere. He'll be given another season if he fails to win silverware this year.

But i think its gonna be between BR and Maureen
If Berahino can't hit the ground running at Spurs, certainly Pochettino
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Considering how much Utd has spent and the players that have left ie Nani, RVP, Falcao, Di Maria, there is obviously pressure on him to win some sort of trophy this season.
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Sunderland scored six goal in league cup , no way dick is going out.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNSCV6RUYAABjHV.jpg
His success also may be judged by how far he gets in the CL. If he were to reach quarter finals and finish in the top 3 then i think that would be considered an achievement.
The squad Moyes and then LvG ingerited was so decrepit, it's no wonder why so much money's been spent so that's not all on LvG.
Here you are Malik.


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After the way they worked so hard to get him back and the fact Sunderland knew there would be problems before the season started. I wouldn't be so quick to pick the D
Hhhhh quarter final. Thats a nice joke
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Almost as funny as Liverpool's performance in the Champions League last season. Even David Moyes reached the QFs. #lol
Even though Benzema tried to confuse people with his tweet today, the real reason for him not come to Arsenal was actually Arsenal "didn't want him anyway" and because apparently as long as Arsenal are winning the "net-spend league," their fans will be happy.


Banter!:)
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Whoa whoa whoa. Can't be using catch phrases like "didn't want him anyway" for just anyone. Pretty sure United have a copyright on that one.
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I'd be ok with 4th in the net spend...just sayin
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Haha...ohh good to know that Colinmc, I was planning to use that if KDB signing didn't go through.
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