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Whatever if they win 6-0 . man utd will finish in mid table

people dont want to realize it isn;t about the club name or history its about generation , period of time

not rival
Newcaslte / charlton fan

biggie beil

Good weekend dudes


and please report , why dream footy isn;t work at the moment?!!
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lmao. this has to be the dumbest post i have seen in a while. in this generation, united is still one of the biggest clubs. It still houses some of the best footballers around. Teams of all sizes face slumps and rebuilding periods. I guess real madrid must be irrelevant as well considering they have lost all their games so far.

Where was this post when city lost to stoke? Why not a liverpool related one? Enjoy regulation and championship football next season
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Eh, it's his opinion. We may finish mid table, we may not. The post doesn't really give much reason for explaining either way.
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LOL Booba being Booba :D
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guess the magpies are to relegate this season.
Anyone see pellegrini pulling a mourinho at the post match? Hahaha i love it...he's normally pretty quiet, but he was pretty pissed. I think he had a case with wilsheres handball
I was disappointed in pellegrini to be honest, the ref made bad calls all around, we could have easily gone down to 10 or 9 men. It was a cracking match both teams could have won, pellegrini should have just kept a lid on it and go about his business as usual, there will always be bad calls just accept it and move on.
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Yes there were decisions to make for both teams, but what a game it was... Always exciting playing city, and now in the past 4 games, its been 1-1,6-3,3-0,2-2, aggregate score of 9-9 lol
I was laughing when I saw Pellegrini lose his cool, never see that happen but how can anyone keep their cool after that amazing game. Game of the week for me!
In case you missed it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtFrbhuJ8ms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPGtQHRwnnc
Was surprised at Pellegrini...
After all the "Park the bus comments" aimed at Chelsea we can officially say the handbrake has been lifted :D
We are still parking the bus, but in the opponents half
Loll dw we'll put on the hand brake at the Etihad next sunday ;)
Lol nah i predict we'll play the same as last season at the etihad but hopefully finishing will be much better this time round...hopefully aguero nd toure are fit...should be a cracker
^ I Can't wait, Hopefully the Gas won't Costa us.
All Chelsea needed was a consistent finisher and now that they have won we can really see that attacking football at its best.
looking forward to the game next week. going to be interesting to see the two strongest teams in the league face off. I may be alone in this but i believe city will either win or it will end in a draw
wrong
hi . lol , aron i will kill u
I haven't had a chance to see Chelsea's full games yet but I see they are scoring a lot of goals. Is Mourinho finally playing attacking football or effective counter attacking?
They're not mutually exclusive. :) You can score goals from both situations (See Bayern under Heynckes and for most of Pep's debut season, Ancelotti's Real Madrid etc) But yes, we're employing a high block nowadays, if that's what you were asking, so we are trying to play "attacking football". But it's not like even last season our only game plan was counter attacking.
The bus parking myth started to explode when we played against Barcelona at Nou Camp and got drew 2-2
Ivanovic is practically a striker now, lol. Chelsea has the most perfect team co-ordination atm. Fabregas in charge of feeding the team, Matic the well rounded midfield guardian. Shurrle and Oscar always on the move, Hazard beating defenders causing hazard on the left while Costa hustles and finishes no matter what!
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I dont know where this myth that chelsea dont play attacking football comes from. Yes they park the bus when they need to but most of last season they were playing fast attacking football. Last season it was more about power and speed. This season Fabrigas has added that extra flair and also it helps to have a striker who puts the ball in the back of the net every time he gets a sniff.
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To be fair Chelsea did park the bus in Europe that year but last year it was different. Chelsea are playing some great football this season though.
I am proud of Chelsea's bus all day any day :)...Come at me bro lol
Yaldho - well said mate...we park the bus only when we need to and destroy the opponents when we want to!!
Myth???? Its not a myth and we all now it. Chelsea were parking the bus for the last 2 seasons. Maybe not on every game, but on numerous occasions. We were all talking about it last year and now its a myth?

@LumpOfCelery tnx for answering the question to some degree.

@Barca121 tnx for clarifying
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@kinglucas, why u crazy bro
I'd park a bus if it won me the Champions League.

And there's a difference between parking the bus and playing well-organized, counterattacking football (example, Chelsea vs Liverpool last season at Anfield). I think that's what is meant by "myth"- that Chelsea have been doing the latter for a long time.
@Kinglucas aside from Cl semi vs atletico and our 2-0 victory against you when else have we "parked the bus" last season. And the previous season when we won the europa we didnt do it once.thats 3 games out of two seasons we played defensivly to try and get a important result.
They look more creative in build ups..counter attacks are very effective. Only need 2-3 players and they're in regardless of how many you have back...i think you'll want to avoid a quick transition end to end game with Chelsea..
Lol the main difference between Chelsea this year and last year is that there is a striker[s] who can finish the chances created. I don't think Torres would have scored any of those chances Costa had, let alone be in the right position to take the chances!
Even last year Chelsea were second in the most chances created!!

But yea there will be, like last season, 2 or 3 games when Chelsea will park the bus. Anyway Mourinho is a manager who has balance between attack and defense. He knows when to attack and when to defend.

Most people don't know this, but Mourinhos "boring-park-the-bus" system smashed the record for most goals scored in a single season in La Liga with Madrid lol...

I think it was 124 goals in a season
Lump of celery's comments really make sense and he touched every aspect.but to say,they haven't parked majority of games out side home are really a false statement.to be fair to Jose,he tried to play attacking football in the beginning of last season,later he realized he didn't have a team to perform that level,turned to his usual football.

But this year,he is trying to play some possessions based attacking football and he has got some real quality players.it's good yo see Chelsea playing some fluid football,but to say,Chelsea didn't park last season is really rubbish things to say.
Yea no body can deny Chelsea didn't park. I think there were probs about 3 games last season where a bus was used. Liverpool, United and Atletico away. I think chelsea will do the same this season in a few games, especially in tough europe games against the likes of barca, madeid, bayern if they match up
Lmao the "parking the bus" jokes aimed at Chelsea alone are a little too harsh imo.

They did it 2-3 times and people act like they do it in every single game. I wonder if they even watch Chelsea play.

And regarding their bus parking performances in the semis and the final of the CL three years ago, as joeymac said, I wouldn't mind parking the bus if it gave us a champions league title lol
Chelsea's been the most entertaining team to watch this season so far imo.
Cesc is out of this world
Costa is yet another successful La Liga offensive player to fair well in the EPL. for long the argument is that (insert player here) won't put up nearly the same numbers in the epl but it doesn't seem to be the case.
Costa, Mata, Silva, Michu....
Saldado and arguably Robhino are the only people who was crushed by the change of leagues.

Can anyone explain why this is?
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Robinho is a different story, his ego was way bigger then his own talent sadly. When he was at City their was no question the guy had talent but his commitment to the team was very poor and at times his contribution to the team as well. His first season he did a wonderful job, wouldn't even compare him to Soldado but after a few injuries the following season in 2009-10 season and he fell down the pecking order he wanted out because he was afraid if he didn't play regularly he wouldn't make the world cup team so went on loan to Santos and never came back. Robinho wasn't committed enough to fight at City for his position and wanted to be top dog but you have to earn it first which is why he left.

Robinho was never crushed by the changes in the league but he just had a different attitude then others.
@ Micky: You forgot to mention Torres, when he was at Liverpool.
Aguero
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i purposely left out players because i know there's more and further support my point that it's not just a random group of individuals.

@Moe there's a reason why I said arguably, even though you are completely right one may argue his fall in the pecking order was the physicality of the league catching up and causing injuries. making it hard for him to regain his form.
It seems like if you can play well in the Liga you can play well in the BPL, no problem. But the BPL is a stronger more defensive league.
All the players listed have is speed and offensive reaction time. Is that all that's needed to cope?
All this means is that spanish players are better than English players which is not rocket science loll
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Rajmahal nailed it....its not about people coming from La-liga or other league doing well. Its about Spanish players and their attitude towards the game. if you observe all the success has come from player who have adopted Spanish style.
Eng and south american players are not very stable...a little success and they are on top of the world doing crazy things..one reason why they dont last very long at top level with exceptions.
well when you think about it the English league is often praised for it's physicality more than anything else. That just tells you most English players excel in athleticism more than technique. Technique is the only thing that beats athleticism in a footballers requirements
Lmao at Rajmahal thinking Spanish players are better than English players.
Okay there buddy, wake me up when Spain produces superstars like Andy Carroll, Ashley Young, Heskey or Downing.

Poor bastards have to deal with average players like Xavi, Iniesta, etc.
Newcaslte for relegation and i agree !!!!!!!
Still to early, Newcastle had a talented team but they need time to gel but fact is the team needs a quality CB asap!
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I wish the bottom 15 would remain as it is...sorry about what that would mean for newcastle
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All my fantasy players keep picking up injuries...Ramsey, Costa Now Sturridge too

Aguero is fit and had a decent record against us. If he stays fit hell of a time to get him. But the gooner within me is telling me to believe in Welbeck...Other option Falcao...can't decide!!!
Well Dzeko is quite a rock. Picked him, Naismith and now it's typical Balo time
Di Maria over Falcao just at the moment
I'm picking Pelle to score for Soton against Newcastle
went with Falcao.. Will go back to Aguero if he stays fit. Man Utd don't waste time introducing these new star strikers. And against QPR i think it will be an easy introduction.
Wohooo got the points, come on Soton!!!
Isn't costa supposed to be injured
lol costa is trolling twice
that's not fair. Took out Costa cause i thought he picked up a hamstring. Damn Chelsea is running away with it
u missed a hat trick....
I think the best XI from La Liga and EPL is a bit pointless. I'd much rather see a Heskey and Bendtner XI.

Taibi
Hutton---Cygan---Djourou---Konchesky
Bebe---DjembaDjemba---Dunn---Brolin
Heskey--Bendtner

that is how you break a man's spirit! Heskey and Bendtner in the SAME team? Too hot to handle, I reckon...
All jokes aside, have you seen Bebe's 2013-14 season?
He scored 14 goals and scored some absolute beauties too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNqqp-IiKnc
making him worthy of a place in the Heskey/Bendtner XI...

but seriously...where was this when he played for you guys?
so who would be the captain of that team above?

or both of em as co-captain?
We need Heskey so bad right now.
@Deffy, yeah you're right :P

Honestly, I think it's a confidence issue. Even at United with the reserves, Bebe had some moments of brilliance.
It's completely understandable that he was completely overwhelmed when playing at Old Trafford. Imagine being homeless and playing for a small lower division Portuguese team with barely any professional training and joining one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Still, he got signed by Benfica, which is not bad at all

I'm really glad he's doing better in Portugal.
I always wanted to see match between Best Pl 11 and Best laliga 11..it would be awesome..
i know laliga have ronaldo and messi..but i still think it will be very close fight..
so here is the best PL11 vs best laliga 11(according to me)

Laliga 11--

Ronaldo--Messi--Bale
Iniesta--Modric
Busquets
Marcelo--Ramos--Godin--Alves
Casillas

PL11--
Falcao
Hazard--Aguero--Sterling
YayaToure--Matic
Baines--Kompany--Cahill--Zabaleta
Courtois
Sterlings a decent player but i wouldn't put him in the best x1 yet...

But still la liga will kill it lol, that firepower is just too much, considering u dont even have neymar or Suarez in the starting line up

And now my arsenal bias to kick in, where the hell is Ramsey, Sanchez and Koscienly... Heck even at the number 10 role Ozil should be there... Put Aguero up front
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Sterling has been one of the top most players in league this year and honestly he's probably the 3rd player to go on England's team sheet after captain Rooney and Joe Hart. He easily deserves a spot.

If that list is based on name prestige then ok, but if based on current form i wouldn't even put Hazard on there.
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My PL XI:

________________Aguero/Falcao/Stuzza

____Hazard_____________Fabregas__________Sanchez

________________Matic________Ramsey

____Baines_______Kompany_____Koscielny___Ivanovic

______________________Courtois

It looks really biased towards Chelsea, but I feel this is a good lineup.. Am I too biased or do you guys think it's legit?

EDIT: My lineup is based on ability, not form.

Form-wise:

__________________Sturridge/Costa

____Sterling____________Fabregas________Di Maria

_________________Ramsey_____Fernando(?)

_____Moreno_____Kompany______Koscielny__Ivanovic

_______________________Courtois

I guess. Didn't see many matches other than Chelsea's, so I could be wrong. Bplittle's lineup (scroll down) is better though.
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@BearWithFish my bad...edited it..:)
i think all these are based on abilities and reputation...not current form..
Sterling is currently one of the best attackers in PL right now..this is the order of EPL wingers for me..based on skills..overall..
Dimaria
Hazard
Sanchez
Sterling
Nasri
Walcott
Navas

but sterling has been consistent for past 2 seasons..and i think he will continue this in future too...as sanchez and dimaria havent played in PL yet..i put Sterling in the line up..:)
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we that good that we dont need a goalkeeper?
i just realized, Marcelo--Ramos--Godin--Alves loooooool

bring it on.
@Bluffmaster...:P:P

@Ashup78..i think suarez s best position is ST/CF...but Messi is already there so..positional wise bale a better pick than suarez for RW imo..
No Suarez in the la liga 11 ?
Id put suarez in for messi (in b4 barca fans whinge). He would play better with those players around him.
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EPL based on form:

----------Costa
-Sterling-Sigurdsson-Dyer
---Fabregas-Schneiderlin
Moreno-Cahill-Ivanovic-Dier
+1
You got players like Dyer, and we don't have room for EPL's best player of last season on our team. lol
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To hard to think of one possible line-up. AHhhhhhhhhhhhh
Lloris
Zab Kompany Kosc Azpi
Fabregas Yaya
Hazard Sterling(atm)
Ageuro Sturridge
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I wish there was a tournments were the best starting XI's from each league played each Other. Right now though La Liga has the best XI.
they got incredible attackers not too many good defenders
And Liverpool finished second when being one of the worst defensive team in the league last season because ATK>>DEF
^you gotta kidding.Miranda-Godin are best pair in th. World.Juan Fran and alba would complete the defense.even varane can't replace this defensive pair.
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^^But PL defense is better and more physical..
^you mean urs,Baines-kompany-Cahill-zabaleta are better than the one I mentioned?? That's a crazy things to say.I can say serie a n bundes liga can field a competitive defensive unit,but epl,hell no..am not trying to prove a point here,but honestly I don't see it.
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yep i exactly i meant that...,Baines-kompany-Cahill-zabaleta are better than the one mentioned...
^lol,and your reason?
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same reason as urs..i dont understand how godin+miranda is better than Kompany+Cahill..i would have agreed if you both pairs are equally good..
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LOL Casillas? :p

Personally, I think that thr La Liga XI would tear the PL XI a new one.
The only players who'd make the Spanish XI imo would be Yaya Touré, Kompany, Courtois, and Di Maria.

Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez, Iniesta and Bale would murder anyone in sight.

I think:

---Ribéry---Lewa-------Robben-----
--------------Reus--------------
---Schweinsteiger------Xabi--------
--Alaba--Hummels---Benatia---Pizczek/Lahm
--------------Neuer-----------

Would probably be the best out of all the leagues though
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@Badge , some fans on FT are obsessed with Alves , ramos , marcelo and Casillas , cant blame them after all FIFA games have quite a following ;)

Btw this team will defeat BL team

Navas
juanfran-Godin-Miranda-Alba
Busquets
Modric - Messi
Bale-Suarez-ronaldo
+1
@Malik Your midfield is too weak IMO. Busquets had a poor season i thought.
Don't see why we're automatically assuming Di Maria and Falcao will have a huge impact. The EPL is a completely different kettle of fish.

--------------Aguero---------Sturridge------------------
-Hazard---------Toure-------Fabregas------------Cazorla-
-Baines--------Kompany-------Cahill-----------Ivanovic--
---------------------Lloris------------------------------

That is just about equal to anything La Liga can through at us. The fact that the talents of Sturridge, Cahill, Ivanovic and Baines are unknown to La Liga fans makes it quite arrogant for people like '4ever' to assume that we wouldn't stand a chance.

The defences in La Liga are just atrocious. Soldado was one of the highest scorers in La Liga over a few seasons, now he can't score any!
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@HaRdCoReMaN , wont say poor , he had an average season , but in formation of single DM , i think he was the best option and even with his average season he would be the best pick and better then players that use to play in double pivot formations .

My midfield in weak in terms of what ? please don't tell me its physicality , this midfield trio is arguably the best trio in terms of technique .
didn't want to say anything until after the qpr game, but how di maria doesn't get into the best xi is beyond me.
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^@SIF, because he plays for United and is therefore overrated.


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