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So turns out that United were the best of the lot from among the top teams until now this weekend.

Horrible from City/Chelsea. Not sure what is worse, not being able to score at your own ground or letting in 4 in your backyard. Terrible.

What changes do you folks suggest at City & Chelsea if they were to replay this fateful day again?
Spend more money
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Arsenal fans right now

https://twitter.com/WoolWitchGooner/status/559037074876010497

*mods please embed*
Gee thanks Teja. Very helpful.
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I don't know Tomi. Chelsea's is very perplexing to me because they had a 2-0 lead, at HOME, and against Bradford City. Just take them seriously, next time, I guess.
Teja - No mate..spending does not guarantee success. I think liverpool fans will know it better than anyone else :)
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See thats the thing, we can't analyse our game at all since it wasn't televised so in my eyes since we didn't see it, it didn't happen :P
@nluffmaster

now you sound like wenger!!!
Bazinga - Yep, so does Bradford & Middlesborough .. what's your point?
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Teja - My point is simple and clear - Your suggestion of spending more money might not solve the issue.
Bazinga - Well, doesn't look like Chelsea and ManCity have that kind of logic, so why not splash another £500,000 in the transfer market?
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Teja - well we can actual use the word "invested the money" for both CIty and Chelsea considering they have reaped the rewards over the years due to investments.

On the other hand "Splashing" is something you associate with liverpool's transfer policy....because there is just splashing season after season and no rewards at all

Very reason why both Chelsea and City are above in terms of Revenue in-spite of spending's...Invest in right players and win trophies regularly helps the club grow commercially and recover the spending's.
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For Chelsea, Mourinho should not be underestimating his opposition. For City, well I don't know wtf the club was thinking sending the team out to Dubai right before an Fa cup game.
Well you gotta do as much as you can for the Sheikhs else you won't get the money. I doubt they even care about the FA cup.All they want is the league title and CL.
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@Teja7, if you haven't noticed, Chelsea are now trying to play within the rules of FFP. We don't do reckless transfers anymore(i hope).
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You all need to spend some more money..Chelsea, Man city and Liverpool..
U guys gotta know how to end banter. Now it's getting to a boring debate -.-

If only Teja's comeback was good enough to keep it going
Too bad every question is turned into a mud slinging game.

@Teja - don't be complaining about the quality of the forum when you are the first one trying to downgrade it. And kudos for fostering more animosity between the fans. Really, if you thought that was banter it was only funny given Liverpool's spending history in the recent past.
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This forum has been a s**t throwing contest for a long time now, and I wasn't here trying to start a debate.
The OP was asking how to improve and I said "spend more money" it's not like it's a new concept for any club to spend money in the Transfer Window ... and heck, look! the transfer window is open right now.

But then you get insolent little children like Bazinga who take everything personally and morph into keyboard warriors.

Yeah sure call it whatever you want "Splashing", "Investing", "Illegal Money", "Blood Money", etc ... it's not like Chelsea and ManCity hit homeruns with everyone they bought. Just ask Fernando Torres and Robinho, they can write books about it.
In the beginning it will be "Splashing", then when you "Splash" enough, it'll turn into "Investing"
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Teja - Maybe your childish acts can go unnoticed on liverpool page but not here on PL page.

"I wasnt here trying to start a debate"?? Nice try...but good luck next time in trying to convince people that "spend more money" wasn't a dig. I hope you can do better than this in future..because it was you who took it personal when i told the fact and raised questions on Liverpool's spending and morph into keyboard worrior:P
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Bazinga - Oh please, why are you acting like clubs spending money is something new?
Yes, I pointed out ManCity and Chelsea spend a lot of money and should continue to spend more. And me stating it won't make it any less or more true, I really don't care if your fickle mind takes it as an insult.


And what happened to you preaching about "Investing" and "Splashing"?
Stop trying to shift the argument towards me cause its a feeble attempt.. I hope you can do better than this in the future

I've read more than enough of your posts here in the PL and Chelsea forums to know that you are bitter towards Liverpool.
So enough with your 'mightier than thou' attitude, just stop, it's sickening.
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Alright guys, let's just enjoy the Arsenal fan dance I posted above. This weekend belongs to the Gunners.
I'm ready to put this to bed. Thank you, Tomi.
I apologize to anyone who took insult.
Tomi - Ok i'm done too
cool
Lol - see we are more reasonable than we give each other credit for.
I thought they would struggle today but Manchester United did well to get a replay
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They missed Young out there
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Well that's ironic :-/
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ouch
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looks like the F.A cup is 2-4 out of reach for chelsea

(⌐□_□)
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At least we managed a replay....
http://i.imgur.com/c8ijeUx.gif

Banter
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Burnn lol
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Spoke too soon son
#prematurejaculation
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god damn the lack of comments on this page to push my comment furthur down
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Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Man U.. Combined value of close to 1 Billion Euro.. all struggled against teams whose players don't even have a wiki page. BURN!
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Should have kept bluffing bluffmaster, you played your card too soon, as for myself, I had a bar full of shots all around and managed to score none.
@Azeal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolton_Wanderers_F.C.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesbrough_F.C.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_City_A.F.C.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_United_F.C.
loooooool well that backfired
Ah where is Mt1234? He would surely ejoy some 'quality' banter right now
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http://www.espnfc.com/paris-saint-germain/story/2260651/psg-fans-suing-over-uefas-financial-fair-play-rule

I'm impressed with these fans. Would any of us actually go to these lengths for the sake of our beloved clubs?
Fans from some leagues are very outspoken. Not a PL fan clubs attitude
^our fans are pretty outspoken...
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As outspoken as some Serie A fans (ultras or whatever you call those groups) who confront club and players personally over transfers and clubs and players must speak to them? Or demonstrating. Or opposing rules imposed by the FA?

I don't know much about Ligue 1, but believe me PSG have history
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yeah they do..just haven't gotten to opposing the FA as far as i know..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d00acjOI-B8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEoEmIdIseo
Not close enough.
As an actual organization that matters
I can't explain this so maybe others will
Do you mean those hooligans who get violent...i get you know. Our fans are nothing like that.
Knowing Paris, the fans will probably just end up going on strike
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Odegaard is every 16 year olds dream...

more like the next freddy adu...
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*Sex is every 16 year old dream
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TheBokiya, the money the kids getting, he's gonna get the (Mod Edit: ladies) left right and center
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@Johny: This kid is the real deal.
@Bwfyid ummm no he's not. Half a season in the Norwegian league does not make you the real deal...regardless if you are 15, 16, or 18. I've seen better skilled players who went on to become a dissapointment down the line. Remember that kid Sergio Canales?? Real Madrid bought him for 4-5 million when he was 17..the same thats being reported for Odegaard.

Canales was the carbon copy of what Martin Odegaard is...5 years ago. Young player with bag of tricks with no end product. Thrust into the media too soon, where every single bad move is scrutinized. Canales was playing in a much tougher league, was more mature by 1 and a half years when signed by Madrid and still did not meet expectations. Paying 80k a week for a 16 year old stunts his development...what incentive does he have?? After all in his mind, he's living the dream without realizing his football career is in its infancy.

A successful football player has to be rewarded for his efforts slowly by slowly..This is crucial for development. Ask Alan Shearer when he was a youth player at Soton in the late 80's...he'll tell you he was given the duty of the boot boy(cleaning the boots of the senior players in the squad), and unblocking toilets with the plunger when he was around 17-18. He said he absolutely hated it...but made him more hungry and strive to be the best he could be.

This is the problem with Promising English youth today. They sign a professional contract worth peanuts...they strive and within half a year to a year..sign an improved contract worth more than triple of what they are making...if they are from a team fighting for relegation...even worse. A big team flaunts its cash and secures him for quite a handsome fee.

6 years down the road when Martin Odegaard turns 22..sold to a team at the bowels of the La Liga..you'll remember these words from Johny...Money and Teenagers in Football DO NOT MIX!
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@Xgooner4everX. Kindly do not refer to women as hoes. This isn't a hip hop video.
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Its better to sign a prospect on a 2-3 year contract worth 5 million and end up with the next Messi (exactly what Barca did) than to end up playing in the league against a team that signed a Messi and is kicking your butt.
Real won't let that happen again...what's 5 million to them? Peanuts. Its like buying a pack of gum.
If Odegaard turns out to be a flop, at least they made sure that Barca won't develop him into a world class Madrid slayer...
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^Very true. Although I think signing for Madrid was the wrong choice for him. He should have gone to a club with a proven track record of producing and giving youngsters playing time. He should have signed for Ajax and played their for at least 3-4 years before making the big jump. If he doesn't end up doing well his just going to be replaced by the next up and coming player in Madrid and boy is the media going to give it to him.
lol @ madrid slayer, but yeah thats a good point

also wanted to say the first name i thought of was indeed canales, he was bought at age 18 by madrid and was already a regular in la liga.. where is he now? madrid dont really develop talent, so unless the kid is good enough now (doubtful), we can guess whats gonna happen to him 2-3 years down the road.
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Real Madrid = RIP young talent = Goodbye Oodegaard
Shoulda signed for Ajax or even Southampton
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Madrid cannot develop players because their whole team is stacked at every position, even with GKs. They have absolutely no space for players to get game time. I mean, how often do you get to see players like Jese get a shot, even though he'd walk right into any other team in La Liga barring Barca and Athletico (well, maybe he might be able to). Nice problem to have imo.
I have watched this kid numerous times live and will stick my neck out with him as I have since I watched him make his debut.

The kid is the real deal, he is already breaking records!

Only time will tell i guess.
Bwfyid - I have watched several videos where Salah and Marin look like next Messi...So dont get fooled by videos on youtube.

I'm not saying he does not have potential and cant make it big..but at 16 its very hard to predict whats going to happen in few years time. Like other mentioned Real is not the place for a 16 year old to develop.
Man can't believe how much hate the lad's getting. Sure 80k a week is a big distraction but why so quick to make conclusions. Players like Ronaldo and Messi also started early with more than enough money to get distracted for their age. It's about having determination and the right people around to keep your feet on the ground and stay focused. I personally have never been in the madrid academy so can't judge if its the right place for that :)

Agree with what TheCheshireCat said. If madrid thinks they have the right people to develop the talent (because clearly he has more than most do at this age) then why not invest the money they have. Like any investment it may pay off or may not. There are no certainties.
^ Its not that much hate, its just that he could have made a better choice. I mean sure Madrid is an amazing team to be part of but not even someone as talented as Jese who I though by now would break the first team makes it on a regular basis. I mean I wish him the best of luck but its not going to be easy.
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ah from his perspective sure. fair point. would agree that madrid is probably not the best choice.
He will get loaned out a lot...One of those clubs will buy him. Only way Madrid don't sell is if his too good
@Bazinga: No youtube, live games in the Tippeligaen, several of them. If marin and salah remind you of messi under any circumstances, slap yourself :P
You are right though, youtube does not show you how good this kid actually is. Watch him first!

@everyone else: he is worth every penny.

This kid has just had his pick out of every club in the world, represented his country at 15 (youngest ever) and went to school the next day and is now at the best club in the world getting paid 80k (allegedly) a week.

What an absolute boss.

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HE DOES NOT MAKE 80K A WEEK.
Most sources seem to think he is. How much does he earn then? because i typed "MARTIN ODEGAARD DOES NOT MAKE 80K A WEEK." into google and this was the first link.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/real-madrid/11364503/Real-Madrid-have-set-Martin-Odegaard-up-for-failure-with-80000-a-week-contract.html

Reportedly 80k + bonuses so you might be right it could be more :)


Don't worry bro, he will prove his worth and more
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80 k a week plus a cushy job at the Bernabeu for his pops. Not a bad deal.
His future is set :)
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Here's mine: Strootman to PSG for 83million
Schneiderlin to PSG for 20m
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Hazard to Ajax for 72m
G.Bale to Man utd for 47m LMAO
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CR7 to Arsenal for 60m + Szczesny
+1
Strootman to Galatasaray for 26m
"Industry experts expect it to be a showdown between Sky and BT Sport, with the aggressive spending of the latter pushing the value of the domestic rights above that £4billion figure.

That would mean the reward for a club staying in the Premier League would grow beyond the £100million-a-season mark."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-set-4billion-tv-4420592

kind of scary how popular the BPL is. clubs are going to be making so much money, it's quite a huge advantage over the rest of europe. good news for us i guess? i just hope the bubble doesn't burst and screw everyone over. i also hope this means it will be even easier to watch games, and not harder. personally i love being able to watch every league game without worrying about dodgy websites with trojans or connectivity issues. and nbc even now have games on-demand replay for a week after it airs live.

it would be great if this also made tickets cheaper for the locals, as clubs now have more guaranteed income, it should certainly trickle down to the match going fan and not just go to player wages and transfer fees. this is why i am a fan of the way the PL put restrictions on how clubs could spend current TV money (Wage increase cap of 4% per year) and put in place their own FFP rules. most clubs have declared ticket price freezes, hopefully some even begin to roll back prices to improve atmosphere make it more affordable for the younger generations.

currently, 8 of the top 20 and 5 of the top 9 highest earning clubs in the world are in the premier league, competing shoulder to shoulder with giants like madrid, juventus, and bayern munich. future is looking bright as that number should only increase in the coming years. hopefully we can see a reversal of the best talent going to la liga (henry, ronaldo, bale, suarez, etc.). time for us to really step up our game in CL and retain our stars.

you can read a bit more here if you are interested: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30915985
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I like the fact that the smaller clubs will have some cash to splash at some decent names to help their aspirations. The downside I see this is probably going to balloon price tags on players even more. More money to spend on a few top top names will be a financial battle. IMO those top top names are overpriced at 100 mill.
You can watch the games without worrying about trojans and dodgy connections? Please PM the links!!
http://www.nbcsports.com/live-extra-schedule

as long as you have a cable company account you can stream for free and watch the replays anytime within a week of the live game. amazing deal, especially since you can watch all the games playing at the same time if you wanted.
Maybe other leagues should try to become more competitive (rather than 1/2 team leagues) and therefore maybe more entertaining and then maybe they'd attract as much interest.
Thanks sif
The subject of single season top scorers in the PL + all comps came up in the Chelsea forum today. I believe its Ronaldo when he was at United with 42. I'm finding it difficult to find an actual list. Others I found; Drogba 09/10: 37 Henry 03/04: 34. Forgive me if I'm wrong with those numbers. Anyone have a link for accurate numbers showing single season scoring leaders for all comps?

My point being I don't think its possible with the level of competition in the PL for there ever to be a 50+ goal scorer including all club comps, excluding pre-season, obviously. IMO it would take a runaway team and the player would have to be fit enough to play every match (60+). What do you guys think?
i think ronaldo could do it now, same with messi, if they are protected and given a mid season rest.. otherwise it is too grueling and they will break down and get injured like other players. messi and ronaldo hardly ever miss any games. if they pulled a hammy or something and missed a month i doubt they would could maintain anywhere near current numbers.
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Suarez last season had around 40 goals in all comps I believe
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Henry had 39 goals in 51 games in 2003-04: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Henry#Career_statistics

Ronaldo had 42 in 49 in 07-08: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristiano_Ronaldo#Career_statistics

Drogba had 37 in 44 in 09-10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Drogba#Career_statistics

This last link is the list of top scorers per season, but that only includes the PL and not other comps. I think if you want a scorers list for all comps, you just have to look them up each yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_Premier_League_goal_scorers_by_season
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside-europe/martin-odegaard--%C2%A380-000-per-week-for-a-16-year-old-is-ludicrous-152002814.html

insane if true, no wonder he chose madrid! ;)

80k pound a week for a 16 year old is unheard of as far as i can tell.

i think he'd been better off at ajax, but i guess with those wages they will be compelled to at least give him a proper chance.
It actually 40k per week, still that is way too much for a teenager lol
don't forget in spain they report salary as net salary after tax. idk which sources you are quoting, but it's possible he is making 80k per week but 40k net after tax. in england they report full wages before tax, so it might be a cultural difference in reporting salary accounting for the discrepancy between the 40k and 80k reports.
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Based on SportsDirect's stats. Interesting.

Shirt Sales 2014/15: Where Are Your Team's Supporters Really From?

http://www.sportsdirect.com/News/entryid/6883/Shirt-Sales-2014-15-Where-Are-Your-Teams-Supporters-Really-From
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Wow! the difference btw United and City shirt sales is staggering 90% approx
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90% United, 10% City in Manchester. Who would have thought....
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Stats are based on shirt sales on their own website. Prices, sales promotions etc will have something to do with such discrepancy
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Also its telling that United top sales are london rather than Manchester.
^you mean it's telling most of their overall sales are from London. There can't be more Liverpool fans in London than in Liverpool...unless it's people working there
eh its not as surprising as i thought its the same for basically all clubs never mind
@joey 94% to 6% to be exact. pretty outrageous difference.

lol promotions and price sales account for 88% difference? thats denial mate. unless you have some sort of proof that utd fans get systemic special discounts and promotions, or that city get special discounts elsewhere, there's no reason to believe their sales representation is skewed or biased in utd's favor. not even as if we are partners, we partner nike to handle sales.

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@ManOnDMoon, SportsDirect is the UK's largest sporting retailer (according to a few websites I checked), so it's not like this is sales from a one off, Manchester United-specific website trying to prove a point. It's just convenient that it does :)
+1
I now imagine Londoners all wearing nothing but footy shirts
+4
Oscar with his Wife and Sister...Is this normal?!?!?!?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2880865/Oscar-proves-Chelsea-s-family-man-Brazilian-poses-girlfriend-sister-ahead-Monday-s-trip-Stoke.html#comments
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Which one is his sister lol...that's kinda messed up
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Maybe his wife's sister, so his sister-in-law? In which case...well played, Oscar, well played.

But if his biological sister, then...
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@Raj the one on the left with the grey lol

@dtouch its his blood sister. same last name and everything
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Hopefully John Terry doesn't find out about it
+4
You guys are making a big deal out of it. Looks like the picture was taken in the gym. Johny, perversion is in the eye of the beholder. In your case those glasses you are wearing in the DP might be the reason :P
+2
I want to score like Oscar.
+6
apparently, Dailymail is banned from where im at (BKK) sigh -_-
+2
I think its perfectly normal. Its a cultural thing. You can't judge a man based on his culture
http://i.imgur.com/x6DkkCH.jpg
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Best gif possible^
+3
this is rather tame compared to the picture with all three in bed. now that picture is controversial.
+1
^I remember when that picture went viral. I thought it was pretty funny and sexy until I found out one of the girls was his sister... Then it became very awkward all of a sudden. Even if that's how they do things in Brazil, surely his girlfriend doesn't like him treating his sister as another girlfriend.
+1
I guess when you have a sister who looks like that it's hard to keep the Lannister down
+5
So it ok to have an incest if it cultural thing lol that just messed up. I remember people talk all kind of gossip with Sahin marrying his cousin
+1
Lol,people are reading too much taboo stories..
+1
From Terry trying to 69 Sterling on the pitch to Oscar banging his sister, Chelsea has thoroughly disgusted me of recent.
+7
Well i don't get why your shocked about incest and culture. doesn't the royal family marry their own


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