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Southampton appoint former Liverpool coach Mauricio Pellegrino as manager
At club level football, we have relegated team in PL makes more money than champions in other big leagues and yet non of the teams are capable of putting up a decent fight in European games.

International football is even worse. Overrated team with Overrated player and Overrated english managers who just cant find a decent solution. Even after going down to 10 men France toyed with them for last 30min.

Honestly cant see them getting past group stage in world at this point
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As far as league teams go, I think we will start to see more of an effort on behalf of English teams in the CL. Of course we have a long way to go to match the likes of Juve, Madrid, Bayern, etc. But these things go in cycles and the money will help increase the talent of the league as a whole, and hopefully that of the top teams as well.

The rest of it, in regards to your other post, is about having credible management and development. England is not very good at that and hasn't been. Maybe their young World Cup squad can turn things around.
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Premier league loses it's star players to La Liga. Bale, Suarez, and soon DDG. Perhaps even Hazard. Imagine if the current Spurs team had Bale or if we had Suarez. On top of that teams in la liga have better academys. The British player rule, which causes British player inflation is not helping the league either.
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The biggest problem in England is that the academy doesn't play in the Championship, for example Barcelona B plays in secunda division but the academy players of premier league teams don't play in the Championship. If that had happened it would be a different story.
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I agree with Joeymac, it just happens in cycles and imo the tide will turn very soon. I'm excited for next season, Conte should do well, Klopp is full of surprises, Pep has shown some swagger with City in UCL (par Monaco lol) but now his getting his players, we better get something done, Spurs they have a talented young team that just needs to adjust to UCl football. As for Utd, I except a good showing from them as well. I hope at least one PL team makes UCl semis next season. We simply have to do better, we have the money and the managers, pressure is really on. No excuses.

As for England. The FA can f**k off. They screwed themselves, their players and the England fans. England actually have a talented team despite the "overrated" remarks people give them but they just need a manger with a freaking brain. France are beatable, heck Sweden did it, why can't England? Oh wait, because Southgate wants to play a back 3, when you don't have the MF to do it against a French side with a stacked attacking line. Even when they had the one man advantage, the couldn't muster anything.
no soon ddg, i dont think we'll be selling him.

and part of the reason we lose top players to spain is clubs dont want to sell to rivals. Arsenal fans would rather sanchez go to bayern than chelsea. we need to make sure top talent stays in the league as well.
Sum your season up in 3 words
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No goalscorers allowed.
A thousand midfielders
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Three Four Three
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Theatre of Draws
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Hits the post
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What is defense?
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Where is Cazorla?
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Attack Attack Attack
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hello europa league
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West Ham United
Almost made it!
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13 reasons why
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Goal! Goal! Goooaaaaaaaaaalllllllssss!
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Happy champions league

Ps: but also sad because there were 3 guarantees in life. RIP to the Arsenal top 4 banter. A moment of silence for a great loss to football fans everywhere.
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RIP Tiote
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Imo the best way to end diving is to implement a game ban and a financial fee.
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How about both, one game ban + fee. I bet you none would every try that sh*t again.
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diving is part of the game, its good acting they can one day make it to hollywood you never know, why wreck their future hollywood career?
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Two game ban, so we can eradicate divers like Moses and Rashford, can't play fair, then you deserve to play less
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Financial fee? Some of these people are literally on a couple of million a year. How much do you really expect them to be fined where it will make any difference whatsoever?

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^ Well said. All punishment should be game time. Financial punishment is not commensurate
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If caught diving they should be forced to play the next 5 games in their socks with no boots.
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um, why do these liverpool fans keep pushing the idea that rashford is a serial diver? he's been in the league 15 months, how many diving controversies has he had?
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SIF neither is Moses a serial diver....Anyways once a diver always a diver. They are paying for the mistake and deserve criticism
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the lad generally tries to stay on his feet, there have been a couple of incidents including the swans game, but really? now he's public enemy number one, the face of diving? just living up to the bitter tag.
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Rashford could've died
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Just putting this out there. I said and
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Just to like to remind you that calling out players for diving is completely brainless; you know it will result a pissing contest.
fines will do. implemented in the NBA and dealt with the problem within two seasons.
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rich people really like keeping their money, even if the fines seem small in comparison to their salary
A $1000 dollar fine in football is a tiny drop of salt in the ocean.

We should break their leg, it will set an example.. it will make this game great again!
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How the hell i can join it for next season , its interesting
Based on value for money this season alone.

signing of the season - Kante

Flop of the Season - Sissoko
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Flop of the season: Claudio Bravo
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Bravo actually did not so bad towards the end of the season when he was called back until he got that injury
Pogba given the price tag, otherwise Claudio Bravo: no excuse is possible
c'mon
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Pogba dabbed his way to flop of the season
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Anyone who says Pogba only wishes it to be so, didn't actually watch him play very much
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Only clueless people say Pogba flop, just because he not part of their team.
they are calling Pogba a flop because of his price tag rather than his performances

Flop of the season - Stones
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Finances of the Top 6
(Spent/Let go = Net spend)

Chelsea------------------(112m/92m = +20m)
Spurs---------------------(70m/44m = +26m)
Manchester City-------(181m/30m = +151m)
Liverpool-----------------(67m/72m = -5m)
Arsenal-------------------(96m/8m = +88m)
Manchester United----(157m/40m = +107m)

Make that of what you will. But impressive from Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool. Poor from City and Arsenal and maybe United if they lose EL.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb/GB1
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You are posting statistics when City is going through major changes, if you post from one of Mancini's years or Pellegrini's years it will be a different story. Plus we have 7 more players going out this summer, so expect another busy year.
Aguerocity - I think those stats hold good for city over last 5/6 seasons not just this season.

If you notice Chelsea , Pool & Spurs have actually spent good amount of money during same period, but they have sold lot of players for good money to balance the books.

example: We sold Oscar + Ramires + Djilobodji for combined fee of about 85m and signed replacement like Kante + Luiz & Alonso spending same amount.

Selling is as important as buying.

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/premier-league-clubs-transfers-net-spend-last-5-years/
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A lot of deals went for an 'undisclosed' fee these days.
Also keep notice that some players are valued lower than others, like Ibra for instance, does he really cost 0 transfer fee?

His agent certainly would only smile at you if you believe that (.. Then add salary and goal bonuses).
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Some of those Chelsea sales have completely skewed the figures, though.

Luiz - £50m - worth about half, if we're honest
Oscar - £52m - bit part player, not a true star but China doesn't care
Djilly-willy - was it £8m? But I seem to recall you only spent something like £4m to get him and somehow his value went up 100% by warming your bench?

Arsenal could hypothetically sell Mertesacker and Debuchy to China next week for a combined £80m and suddenly Arsenal's figures look rosy, too.
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"Poor" and "impressive" relative to what? That there's a higher player turnover and thus more sales/lower net? If so, sure. But if a club makes money, and they spend it on transfers, doesn't mean they have to recoup that spend solely through player sales. Instead they can do it through merch, ticket sales, sponsors, etc. There are other ways to balance the books and finance buying.
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Deffy, if it's so easy then why doesn't money conscious arsenal do it? And be honest, to get a defender to play as good as luiz to start in a big club has cost teams more money than expected... and Chelsea got him back for less which was good business
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@Deffyduck

The deals still have to be made, no matter if they are inflated, Arsenal are more than welcome to take advantage of this market, so don't give me that crap. Weak argument.

We let go of Petr Cech for 11m, and you could argue he could easily be worth double that at the time.

Don't compare Arsenal's joke of a transfer committee Dick Law (same man who was responsible for that hilarious 40.01m bid for Suarez and being late for Ozil's meeting, increasing his price), with Chelsea, who are miles ahead in the art of negotiation and getting the most money for our departures, whether they are worth that or not ha.
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I don't think it is fair to go off one season, or even the last 5 or anything like that. You cannot place a value simply by price alone.

You have to think about what is being replaced also.

United had an aging squad that was begging for replacement players for a number of years and unfortunately we brought through too little quality and so had to spend big to get what we needed. We needed a Scholes replacement for instance, we didn't make one ourselves so we had to buy. Can you imagine how much a player like Paul Scholes would cost at his prime in today's money?

In 13/14 and 14/15 we lost Scholes, Giggs, Fletcher, Evra, Nani, Ferdinand, Vidic They were players that had been mainstay of the club for a long time, and we simply didn't have players bled in at the right time to just step in and replace them.

You also have to think about players that simply didn't work out. Schneiderlin and Memphis for example, we lost 20 million in one season just from buying and selling them on.

United isn't the only club this has happened to, and it won't be the last.
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You can't really control how selling players ends up going. First off the teams have to be interested in buying those players, if no one wants to pay for our players, we don't really have much control afterwards, either we keep them or take the best offer available.

As for Chelsea, how they ended up getting 50mil for Luiz and 60mil for Oscar is beyond me. What clowns did they negotiate with? I mean credit to the Chelsea management for pulling it off but it makes you wonder, what the hell was said in that room during the negotiations?
How about net spend of the last 3 years? You can't just buy multiple players one summer and win that season can you? Honest question, I can't remember a season where a team has spent loads and it's been justified just like that.
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Some chelsea fans could use a class in basic economics / accounting principles. Good job for selling some of your assets (brought in under massive deficits in prior years) and replacing them with even more expensive assets.

It's hilarious that Arsenal used to top that stat for years and Chelsea fans used any argument in the toolbox to downplay the fact, now all of a sudden it's impressive to be on the lower net spent ....
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A player who cost us 4m and played 4 minutes in total for us, we ended up selling for 8m lol. That's unreal business. Who the hell wanted him?

@Illman
It's also hilarious that for years Arsenal fans used to mock Chelsea for 'doing things the right way' and look at the shitshow that's going on behind the scene rn. Your own manager/board is basing an extension of his contract on one game. Insanity.

And arsenal fans for years have mocked Chelsea for spending loads as a result for thier success, while they didn't, well I'm not going to say we haven't spent big, cause we have, BUT Arsenal are spending big now too, 90m this season is not a small amount. And where has that got you? Money brings success alright.

Plenty in the toolbox that Arsenal fans used to brag about, now they can't.
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I'm not sure you get your intel on how the manager/board make their extension decisions. In anyways I have never been a fan of the board.

Fact is we have overperformed for years given our financial capacity, and the fact is we are now underperforming and every fan will tell you that.
Regardless, many fans including myself are proud of how the club stuck to its values towards its youngsters, style of play and respect for its manager. Players were mismanaged earlier in the years, maybe the money was not spent well recently, the manager may have not delivered and so be it, and there maybe nothing to write home about this season (or brag as you put it) but at least we stuck to our values and the manager was given a chance he deserved given his contribution to the club. Fans of other clubs may have different angle on what they expect from their clubs, like yourself. I know not even all Arsenal fans feel that way and that's fine.
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Guys don't take it as an attack, I'm just saying that literally two sales can (and, in Chelsea's case, did) have a huge impact on net spend.

Well done for milking every last penny out of those respective sales but all the OP did was cherry pick the best financial period (due to those inflated transfers) and then use it as evidence of success and declare everyone else a comparative failure.

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Illman "It's hilarious that Arsenal used to top that stat for years and Chelsea fans used any argument in the toolbox to downplay the fact, now all of a sudden it's impressive to be on the lower net spent "

Well the table has turned. Take it on your chin and move-on. Cheers!
@Illman
Hey, as long as your happy, I'm all for it.

@Deffy

It's simple, you can sugarcoat it all you want by saying inflation this, inflation that. But at the end of the day, Chelsea and Arsenal spent nearly the same amount of money this season and Arsenal are 18 points off of Chelsea. No one is stopping you from posting last seasons numbers, I'm sure it would shame Chelsea, but I'm just posting facts.
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@Bazinga "take it on your chin and move on" you are learning from me pretty well, keep it up ;)
Aguero,

Bazinga's been here 6 years longer than you; I don't think he is learning from you.
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One things i have learned from Aguerocity is "CL football is curse for big teams"

I'm not sure if he is happy about city making it to CL once again next season, since that ends the chance of them winning PL :)
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The phrase "take it on the chin and move on" he definitely learned from me and i know he knows that
Log off - pack ur stuff - have good holiday
next season gonna be exciting
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Chelsea and I have so many big and amazing things in common. We have Russians supporting us, were making things great again, we really really like to fire people, everyone likes us, we are around rich people that have so much history, you have parked a bus and I talk dirty on a bus, I love this club. POTUS.
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Ok
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lol
spurgt
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heh, nice.
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