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I wanted to ask everyone on here what is your honest opinion on Harry Kane and Adam Lallana.

Are they good players or just playing out of their skin.
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Lallana is great. He's got the sexiest turns in the premier league. I started following him closely at S'ton when him and Jrod were tearing it up. Harry Kane is OK. I like him when he's not scoring against Arsenal and when he's not talking (the latter is more painful to watch) :D
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They're both good players. Kane's goals speak for themselves. You don't get 20 league goals for 3 straight seasons by simply playing out of your skin (I'm assuming he'll snag 6 more this season). Lallana has hit his prime years I think and is thriving behind such active forwards in front of him. It allows him to pick up the pieces.
Both average.

Not hating but they are no different to any English footballer from the past 10 years.

They can have good spells of form but ultimately the reality dawns on everyone once we reach (and subsequently get knocked out of) any tournament competition of note.
Kane is genuinely Very good and consistent.

Lallana is ok, but playing out of his skin because ok Klopp
I don't be rate English players at all, the majority of them look good when they playing for their clubs because they surrounded by foreign talent. When they play for their national team is where you see their true quality
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I think Dele Alli has the potential to be up there. Lallana is insane on his day but he is still inconsistent with having an impact every game.

Kane's goals speak for themselves.
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@Cjaystacks, I guess you can make a case for that. Although Kane, Deli Alli and the likes of Lallana and even Sterling have been playing really well and its not because of their foreign teammates but because of their own quality. Take Utd's Jones for example, since his come back, along with Rojo, they've saved Utd's season.

Kane, Lallana, Alli etc, none will go anywhere in international football without a top quality manager. We've said this time and time again. I do believe England have quality players but the FA are bunch of idiots, who are more concerned with naming an English born manager rather than a manager than will actually take England somewhere. I honestly feel sorry for those guys, I mean Southgate is the best England has, enough said.
When are we finally going to stop getting bitch-slapped in Europe. As a league, we're falling so short of the mark so consistently. Embarrassing.
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I expect City to get into the semi final, obviously I'm taking about Leicester jk


Yeah , pl teams not strong as the Real, Barca , Bayern
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Sevilla will thrash Leicester city and Monaco vs City is 50/50 right now.
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English teams are tactically and technically weak in Europe. Europe it's not always about physicality and pace like the premier league.
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It's the scheduling too. Teams tend to be a lot more fatigued at this point of the calendar.
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but Arsenal played like Barca last night
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Chelsea did it for years and got to the semis a couple of seasons ago iirc. I think its high others start doing their bit.
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Weezer - Seriously dude...Now Scheduling is why PL teams are doing bad in CL? Shame that it has come to this.

Naija - IMO united did it for decades when SAF wan in-charge..Also, I think we are missing team like Liverpool in CL for too long. They will do very well in Europe
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@Bazinga @Weezer Of course the scheduling has a big part in it man, PL teams play way more games than other teams in Europe, so they are more fatigued, longer injury list etc...We have 2 cups where as other leagues like Seria A, La Liga, Bundesliga have only 1 and on top of that PL doesn't have a winter break, where as other leagues do, so come February they are fresh...
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and dont get it twisted, bayern are a top side, but there's no excuse for a supposed top team getting smashed like that. yes barca got embarrased, it can happen from time to time, but it's becoming a trend and typical for us in europe to be piss poor on the whole, not just arsenal.
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If having extra cup games (EFL cup) and winter fixtures is reason for PL teams not doing well in CL. Then why not play youth teams for Cup games and keep main players fresh for League and CL??

CL trophies won since 2000 by country

Spain - 6
Italy - 3
England - 3
Germany - 2
Portugal - 1

On top of winning it 3 times PL teams Chelsea , Liverpool , Arsenal have been runner-ups once + United have been runner-up twice.

Those extra cup games and Winter fixtures have been der since beginning and not since 2013. So it would be very lame excuse to blame scheduling and winter fixture as reason for recent debacle.
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Not just cl we suck in. Europa we suck in as well.
The teams are just poor simple as that, they lack the belief, mental fortitude and tactical awareness required to win in the CL, it's all at the players, when the manager gives the instructions they are the ones that have to produce it on the field, and the players who can do that are the best, this is without including luck, and wrong calls from refs which can really change the game.
Many many many managers in the PL have complained about the schedule being the reason why English teams are not doing well in Europe...we are talking professional managers from all the top teams in the PL...they always bring up the winter break for a reason...you say that shouldn't be an excuse because Chelsea isn't in Europe.

Had Spain Italy Germany Portugal have the same schedule as we do they wouldnt have won it as many times as they have...their numbers would be much lower, its thanks to the PL teams depth in squad that they have won it 3 times and made it to finals and semi finals a few times...Take Atletico Madrid for example, give them the PL schedule they will not make the final as they did twice in recent years ,cos they don't have that same depth in squad as top PL teams have.
Well as biased as it sounds, Liverpool does tend to do well in Europe most seasons. Hoping we can keep that up next season should we qualify this time.
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What is Arsenal, Mr. Trebek. We are the ones giving English teams that reputation.
Here is another perfect example about the scheduling...Monaco is scheduled to play on Friday because champions league game is on Tuesday so they can get an extra day of rest as suppose to City
ok bro...your right and i agree that with better scheduling PL teams will win more CL trophies and do better.
Straight from the fingertips of Aubameyang on his twitter: "I missed the preparation [for the second half of the season] through the Africa Cup of Nations" "I have to admit, I'm a bit tired."
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Shaymoose17 you always agree with me eh? :D
Yes 2016-2017 is the year when fans and players finally realized that they are getting tired of football.

Now hopefully football associations make sure they can cancel all useless tournaments like league cup , Afcon, Euros , Copa america to make sure players are fresh to play only league and CL. Since 2016-2017 is the 1st time in football history player are over loaded with football Period!
@Bazinga this has been realized by everyone a long time ago and your team was on the same boat before but now you are not on the same boat, perhaps thats why its such a surprise to you ...but its not a surprise that was discovered in 2016-17, this matter has always been around
Lol i signed up on ft years and years ago so i could like and agree with you. My covers blown! Back on topic though, a rest midseason allows players to regain focus and gives teams more times to prepare. I'm not saying that is the only reason why English clubs fall short, but is hard to say it's not a contributing factor.
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Certainly worth a read:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11881/10703165/a-guide-to-winter-breaks-across-europes-major-leagues

What do you gain from a winter break?
-recuperation time for mind and body
-more time and analysis to spend reflecting the 1st half of the season and ways in which to improve upon mistakes made, partnerships that worked, tactics that worked etc..
-more time to prep for important matches that are coming up in the 2nd half of the season vs only getting a few days to study tape of your next opponent and run through the objectives on the training ground only to do that week after week

Maybe your pride won't let you entertain the idea, but you can't deny that it certainly doesn't hurt other European clubs to have a few weeks break.
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It definitely helps, the rest. But it doesn't explain why english teams get trashed in europe
Found a interesting Poll.

Are you rooting for or against rivals in the Champions League and Europa League?

1. FOR — it's all about the coefficient, baby

2. AGAINST — and I hope they burn in hell

3. 50/50 — shades of grey
I would pick 2 with an exception. I dont mind seeing any of our rivals winning Europa league. But CL hell NO!
i wouldn't mind any of our rivals winning the champions league ... its still good for the premier league if any of our rivals win the champions league ... this way premier league in general gets more attention and more attention means more money from TV deals etc...
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Nope I don't want to see rivals win, as good as it helps our coefficient I wouldn't stand the bragging of their fans afterwards
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i like Leicester to win it but everyone else can get beat 7-1 for all i care
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^ or 1-6 😃
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I've only rooted for Man City to progress. C.
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Something that has obviously been pointed out many times but not discussed in-depth: why are Liverpool so good against the top teams yet so bad against the bottom ones?

We saw Spurs the other day play right into Liverpool's hands by pressing high and trying to keep possession at the back. Is it simply a case of not being able to break down teams when they put 10 or 11 men behind the ball? Is there something more?
A lot to do with how Liverpool play. They thrive against teams who attack them and come in with a positive attitude - their relentless pressing allows them to get behind teams with high defensive lines.

On the other hand, relentless pressing against lower teams only means finding themselves against 4 defenders when they win the ball in the final third. They still have to do the work to score from there but the other team is already in a defensive shape and ready.

This was the over simplified version :D Obviously there are lots of other reasons at play but I see this as a major reason.

EDIT: Joey I just realized I said exactly what you said so I added no value. LOL
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Tomi, you always add value m8
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Yeah at this point, it's not a coincidence. Klopp's system is made to compete with big teams that want to dominate games and play attacking football. it's meant to exploit a big team's usual playstyle, which includes a high defensive line and playing out of the back.

i think our defensive approach at anfield now makes a ton of sense. we simply refused to play into liverpool's hands and as a result they looked toothless and i think it was their worst attacking display at home for the season - they're set up to press and hit teams on the break. it's also why they seem to struggle so much when mane is out, they lack the same incision without his pace on the break.
what Tomi said...Liverpool front 3 needs space to make dangerous runs and against Bus they struggle to find it.

No wonder Jose managed a goal less draw at Pool like SIF mentioned...they struggle when teams sit very deep.
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Funny thing is liverpool have always played good against big teams even before Klopp. That's one of the reasons they haven't won the league for 27 years, they fail to beat the teams we expect them to beat
Champions mentality is what they lack obviously and this was aptly demonstrated in 13/14 Season where they basically surrendered the title in one game vs Crystal Palace after going 3 nil up. That is much more deeper than tactics it is psychological. Maybe they need a new team in that department
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STAT: Tottenham will have played 4 games by the time Liverpool plays again
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Annnnnnnnd we put Arsenal back in its heaven :D
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Last-man foul is no longer an automatic red. It seems the commentators and referees alike keep forgetting this.
What do you mean? Wouldn't it be red if it was a straight run at goal for the attacker? How do you qualify the non-reds and reds?
Dele Alli already made this clear, how many times do they need to be reminded?
Fifa changed the rule tomi. so unless the foul itself was dangerous, it's a yellow card for a last man foul.

http://www.football-italia.net/80917/fifa-change-red-card-rule

it's funny I cant find a better source right away, but the rule-change went into affect before the euros.
oops. cynical challenges would also be a red card. it has to be an honest attempt to play the ball.
Now that makes sense. But then how is it different from any of the old rules?
well before any last man foul was an automatic red, now accidental foul or legal foul is just a yellow.
Hmm I get it. However, it is going to be very very difficult to differentiate between those last man fouls then. The refs are already crap, this will make it more difficult
tomi think ander herrera pullbacks, lol those cynical fouls are still red, but if you are actually going for the ball then its just a yellow. refs are already given pretty long string for fouls already, some refs like to keep the game flowing and dont call many fouls, others blow everything. there's always going to be some inconsistency between different game management styles.
true. I always thought that non-cynical last man tackles were not reds though. well now the new rules do what I wanted them to do in the past :D
Egyptian players doing good at EPL this season
Mane😈
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Ok👍
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Guys this is one of the funniest clip i've seen in a while :P

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I thought that was Elneny for a second.
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30
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8
25
9
32
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34
11
5
9
25
10
30
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31
28
11
6
8
25
11
30
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36
27
13
3
9
25
12
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11
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25
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25
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22
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19
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25
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21
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24
14
6
5
25
17
20
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49
22
15
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