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England's Best Strike Partnership For South Africa?
Derby22 (Derby County) 6 years ago
Wayne Rooney
One of England's best strikers in history, wearing the number 10 shirt for United. Has great accuracy, speed and great potential. England's main part of the attack, and the hatrick hero for both his club and country. Obviously one of Capello's main choices for the England World cup attack. He also has amazing positioning skills, he always seems to be there in the box when his team-mates need him there. Definitley one of the first choice strikers for the world cup squad. Also always on top form in training and matches.

Michael Owen
Another of Capello's first choice forwards for the world cup squad, but unforunatley the most injury-prone player for england. He has got potential with no doubt, and all his attributes are top. He has a great striking partnership with wayne rooney as well as they both usually play in attack with each other, along with another great united star, Dimitar Berbatov. He has got good speed and positioning, practically with the same skill level as rooney, but a bit lower than him. Probably second choice attacker after Wayne Rooney, and can just tap the ball in when it's stuck open in the box. He's stuck behind Rooney with most of his attributes, but not that far behind. Always ready and on top form for a match, brave, and quite as famous as David Beckham and Wayne Rooney.

Peter Crouch
2-Meter Peter probably has the world record for the highest number of corners scored in a month. He is also the bycicle-kick champ for England, and with those long legs of his he can get around very quickly. He towers over Michael Owen and the rest of his team-mates, and goes for glory anywhere. Crouchy has a superb amount of power on his shots, with great accuracy as well. He has the ability to take risky chances, with amazing passing skills, able to do beautiful long-balls and crosses. He also has a great attacking partnership with Jermain Defoe, a fellow tottemham player. With the great passing abilities he has got, he used it to help them thrash wigan 9-1 by setting up most of Jermain Defoe's amazing goals.

Carlton Cole
Has not quite as much ability as other players, and is not as famous as his fellow strikers in the england squad. I don't think capello has him on his first choice list, and unfortuantley no other England attacker plays for the same team as him. I think his closest Partner on the picth will be Emile Heskey or Gabby Agbonlahor. If Cole did have another England team-mate playing for the same club as he does, he will have a much better chance of improving his abilities on the pitch and rising to same level of Rooney, Owen and Crouch.

Emile Heskey
Done well for Enlgand many times, but is not a first choice attacker for the world cup england squad. He hasn't got much partnership experience as none of his England team-mates play for the same club as him. Does well in his position, but not so many appearances as fellow strikers. Always in a good position, but not much speed. Unlike the other England Strikers, also does not play for a big and strong premiership club like Owen and Rooney play for United, and Crouch and Defoe for Tottenham. But he has been doing well for Aston Villa though, keeping them in the top half of the premier league.

Jermain Defoe
Has experience in a striking partnership with Peter Crouch at Tottenham. A hatrick hero, scoring almost 6 goals against Wigan in the 9-1 thraher. Always on top form and willing to win not just for the money, but also for the fans. He has a great realtionship with the other England strikers, and is definitley a number-one choice for the England world cup squad. Has great abilities with setting up goals, and doesn't always try to go through the defence himself. A wise footballer, will pass when he sees a good one, with good eyesight and accuracy too.

What I'm saying is that the strikers fit for it are Crouch & Defoe, Owen & Rooney
Donnchadh (Liverpool) 6 years ago
I would have to say I think Crouch and Rooney would be the best starting duo. Defoe is better than Crouch, but he is too short, Crouch can win balls in the air. Defoe and Owen to come on as super subs
Pragathish (AC Milan) 6 years ago
But Crouch's ONLY strength is his height!He has 0% technique, i'd say!
ManUK (Manchester United) 6 years ago
Crouch is height is even pretty much a failure, He's 6' 7" and he's a worse header of the ball than defoe (at least when he can get to it )

I say pretty much at this point that Defoe and Heskey have already made the squad. They are also in my opinion our best strikers besides Rooney. Whenever in the past we've had international games notice Heskey and Defoe are always there. The Big Questions are for Crouchie, Bent, Owen and Abonlahor
ScooterHayes (Chelsea) 6 years ago
To answer that question, ManUK, look at what those players are doing. Owen's not a starter, so that leave's 3. Bent's been pretty affective for Sunderland, I think he is in great form. Crouch has started a lot and still cranes tons of balls down and can finish most things.... Agbonlahor is scoring for Villa. From there, I'd say it's Bent and Agbonlahor. Who would you pick to match with Rooney from there?
ManUK (Manchester United) 6 years ago
I would agree with that statement especially since Owen's pretty much out of the equation. Who would I pick from there? Hmm.... That is my biggest dilemma with our current squad. See in my mind our three best strikers are Defoe Heskey and Rooney obviously but I'm tying to think like capello since I've always like Defoe better.

I think Defoe's a better player, But a similar player to Rooney. So maybe Heskey works better with Rooney maybe it doesn't matter maybe we should trust Capello. I dunno
TheTorresBounce (Liverpool) 6 years ago
Crouch's only strength isn't his height, his heading ability is good but not great considering his height but he's great on the ground too at holding the ball up especially plus he pops up with important goals. He compliments whoever he plays with which is why I'd have to pick him alongside Rooney. Agbonlahor isn't ready, Bent hasn't put in the performances on the international games and Owen doesn't play enough for United to warrant a place
ManUK (Manchester United) 6 years ago
I Still think Owen is good enough, but at the same time agree that he doesn't start enough for Capello to justify giving him a place on the squad. Crouch's other strengths are first off just plain getting the ball in the net even if it's not very impressive, and holding the ball up. Agreed that Bent hasn't preformed up to standard on the international stage, but Fabio I think could pick him because of his performances this season. As for Gabby I don't know enough about it, I'm not sure whether he should be included
ScooterHayes (Chelsea) 6 years ago
What's the opinion on Walcott? I'm curious if anybody would consider him for the starting 11, or at least the 23
ManUK (Manchester United) 6 years ago
I think I'd bring him to South Africa, but he wouldn't start. Also I have him be a winger, as I think He plays better there and has all the attributes of a winger. Skill, Speed, shooting and he beats people and gets the ball in the middle. Walcott wouldn't cut it up front compared to all the other strikers we have, So I'd have him back up for Cole or Some one
TheTorresBounce (Liverpool) 6 years ago
I'd take Agbonlahor ahead of Walcott to be honest, Walcott has the talent no doubt but he doesn't get enough game time and doesn't strike me as a clutch big game player.... Yet!
ManUK (Manchester United) 6 years ago
As I explained above I rate him more as a winger. Yea if We're talking about striking positions I'd take Agbonlahor over Walcott any day. He doesn't seem to ever get enough playing time or experience to ever grow up fully Walcott
TheTorresBounce (Liverpool) 6 years ago
I was saying I'd take Agbonlahor even in the wide position ahead of Walcott, there doesn't seem to be space for both...
ManUK (Manchester United) 6 years ago
Would You? I'm not really sure I haven't watched Agbonlahor really as a winger. But He may be good, he's fast, that's a start
Matt (Footytube Staff) 6 years ago
We need to replicate what works for the best players we have. Simple fact is Rooney is the only quality striker we have who is in blistering form for his club at the moment.

So I would try and maintain that and have him on the sharp end with two attacking wingers pushed up with him in a 4-3-3 in fact I would have Agbonlahor and Walcott not strictly wingers but not a strict winger position. That frontline would scare the crap out of any defence.
Donnchadh (Liverpool) 6 years ago
I like this idea Matt, you think Capello would do it though?
Pragathish (AC Milan) 6 years ago
I love this idea. But I don't think Capello will change the traditional formation
Matt (Footytube Staff) 6 years ago
The problem is a lack of games to try out new formations and untried players. I am 100% sure we will see a traditional 4-4-2 or sleight variation. Which I think is shame
ScooterHayes (Chelsea) 6 years ago
I think it's because you have so many players that are entitled to a spot on the roster in the midfield that this kind of plan doesn't come to fruition. I think there's a few solid choices in the midfield that could also work into the 4-3-3 (4-3-2-1) theory. Capello would have to deny more mids to run this kind of formation, though.... And I'm not sure he'd be for that.

I think a 4-5-1, which is exactly the same as yours basically, would work as well. It just adds more mids as wingers back into the equation, though there's not really a difference. And I feel Capello is a results man before tradition, so he may be thinking up a different formation. The old one hasn't really gelled with everybody yet. Why not?
FCBarca9 (Barcelona) 6 years ago
What a question?!  Rooney and cole  What else?
Pragathish (AC Milan) 6 years ago
I am afraid that cole is yet another Heskey
TheTorresBounce (Liverpool) 6 years ago
Yea no thanks to Cole, he needs to prove himself
Yogan (Chelsea) 6 years ago
Rooney's a deffo, that's complete but good thread - really, who is going to be with Rooney upfront or will he be a loan striker to create his own chances in the attack. What I think about all the players:

Jermain Defoe: Probably in my opinion the most hopeful. Gets so many goals and got 5 in a match this season already. Fabio doesn't seem to see all that quality in him like we do though, and prefers to start Heskey before him and maybe bring Jermain on as a sub to save the game.

Michael Owen: A certain maybe, but seemed to go out of the picture after his injury at the '06 world cup, and a free transfer deal to United hasn't done him much good because he rarely starts over Berba and Roon. But possible.

Emile Heskey: Emily Heskey. In Fabio's eyes, probably the most certain to partner Shrek for the group games at least. He'll surely go. But the reason I called him Emily is because he doesn't score goals like a striker should do and isn't one of my faves.

Peter Crouch: A hopeful, but has opposition. He is amazingly good with his head due to his massive 6-foot-7 frame, and he can play with his feet aswell, and keeps on improving. Maybe, maybe not.

I think those are my five to make it on the England plane.
But Bent, see Cole and Gabby A. Have all had decent seasons so far. Doubt it though. It's quite easy if you think about it. 23 on the plane, 2 or 3 are keepers, 6 or 7 are defenders, 6 or 7 are midfielders and about 5 are strikers. That means Fab Fab has quite a simple choice
ScooterHayes (Chelsea) 6 years ago
Bring more mids and deep-backs and less strikers....

Totally agreeing with you on Heskey, stikers are there to be targets and score goals, not to be a forward-playing winger. I like Crouch right now. It may be very useful for Fabio to have that massive frame on the field, especially against the taller backs you may see on the opposition. I think Crouch can do what a striker needs to; he's the biggest target England has, and he's gotten better overall. For me he's the best sub they could bring on. But as for a striker partner for Rooney I can't say weather speed or experience trumps all.
ScooterHayes (Chelsea) 6 years ago
Fabio Capello really must have one of the most interesting jobs in the world.

Truthfully England is a confusing team to operate with. And I can understand why. The diversity of talent, age, etc. Must make strapping this team together in a productive way a nearly impossible job. Think about it.... How rarely does England's players enjoy good form long enough for Capello to know what his players are even capable of together? Yeesh. If you think at least on surface terms, England should be one of the best teams in the world.... But they're not.

This is what I think Capello needs to focus on: basic team chemistry. He needs a core team, some people he can rely on, and not have to constantly worry about who is in and out of form.... He needs some favorites. I think to a point that's been discouraged so the best talent could always be on the field, but not the best team. Fabio needs the best TEAM first, then the best players FOR it. He's building a team around stars when he should be trying to fit people into his plans, and that's not working.

Basically get your core players settled, get all your preferred starters in check, and keep practicing.
ScooterHayes (Chelsea) 6 years ago
Wow and I massively missed the mark on answering the question asked and instead went on a large tangent. Sorry bout that.

Best striking partnership? I would say that Wayne Rooney is on form the most often and would be the most reliable person to start building around, obviously. But you're just going to have to make a tough choice on number 2 and hope practice irons everything out
Blueskiesahead (Chelsea) 6 years ago
I think what would be best is to try and get rooney used to playing with defoe and crouch as best we can before the summer. If he can play well with either, capello will be able to decide who to start in accordance to who they are playing against. For example against a team like spain, we may want some height in the box so start crouch for that match. But against italy we would want more speed and skill so start defoe. Just an idea
Haules (Chelsea) 6 years ago
Rooney and Defoe in the starting eleven and Cole and Agbonlahor on the bench
Fussball (Barcelona) 6 years ago
Rooney and Owen (if he stays fit and firing) upfront can challenge any team's defence. Apart from them, Capello should make his choices only at the business end of the season, keeping in mind the form of the players like Defoe, Bent and Crouch. Heskey is an old cannon now, better off, 'cause Walcott, Gerrard and Lamps can do the passing where as Agbonlahor and Cole could fill in as good substitutes for strikers
TheTorresBounce (Liverpool) 6 years ago
Hmm interesting, I think a Rooney/Owen combination could be potent too, they would definitely compliment each other nicely plus they share the same club team
SirStig (Arsenal) 6 years ago
Rooney for sure, because he's world class. I think Defoe and either Bent should start alongside him because they are quick and can score goals. Crouch should be on the bench or maybe even start to provide the necessary height to get on the end of balls coming in from the wings ie. From Beckham or Lennon
TheTorresBounce (Liverpool) 6 years ago
Not Beckham! That old fogey is better off in a retirement home
LionAzzurro (Rimini Calcio) 6 years ago
+1 on beckham.... I really like Bent he deserves a lot more credit then he gets.... Could do tons of damage along side rooney with the national team
Pragathish (AC Milan) 6 years ago
I second you opinion LionAzurro. Beckham still, is one of the best crossers in this universe, trust me. If you have seen any AC Milan matches lately, you'll know why. Such a perfect crosser
Franboy (Barcelona) 6 years ago
Gabriel Agbonlahor and rooney are a great duo (fast, physical, running forward) I do not know if they have already played together but I am convinced that this attack would be a good result
Pragathish (AC Milan) 6 years ago
Gabby and Roo? Hmm.... Both aren't that strong in air. You must be able to win high balls, when you need be the striker of England, you know, as they use high balls and crosses to create their chances.
So, Bent with Roo would do the trick
Rzv36 (Real Madrid) 6 years ago
1. Rooney  2. Heskey  3. Agbonlahor  4. Defoe  5. Bent  6. Crouch  7. Owen
Pragathish (AC Milan) 6 years ago
I would opt for Darren bent or Cole to pair up with Roo. And Owen can be used as a super-sub.  
CHELSEA61 ((Footytube Moderator)) 6 years ago
Darren Bent is an extreme long shot after his below average performance in the Brazil friendly. Jermain Defoe is our super sub without any doubt and if Capello sticks with tradition Heskey may still be the starter beside Rooney. In fact I can say with confidence that only one spot remains open. For me the locks are Rooney, Heskey, Defoe, Crouch. The last spot will be determined in the coming months and maybe a change if an injury occurs. The last spot in my opinion is being fought out by Agbonglahor, Owen, Carlton Cole, Young, Walcott. My money is on Gabby
CHELSEA61 ((Footytube Moderator)) 6 years ago
If you're going by numbers alone then It would have to be Rooney and Defoe. I personally think that It should be Crouch beside Rooney only because he compliments Rooney's game more than Defoe does. Defoe should and will be used often but as a sub. Its where he's done most of the damage to opposing sides. Bent had his chance against Brazil and came up way short and Owen I'm afraid has seen his last days go by for England. Heskey and Carleton Cole are the most probable to join England as the last two of five strikers on board. Maybe Theo Walcott just to have him gain the experience of being there for the future
TheTorresBounce (Liverpool) 6 years ago
Taking Theo last time for that reason didn't go down well.... I think we need to take 5 players who have experience in pressure situations and that we can trust with our nations hopes. Namely- Rooney, Defoe, Crouch, Heskey, Owen/Bent (Owen might be a good person to take as he is experienced on the world-stage and he may have a calming effect on the other players)
CHELSEA61 ((Footytube Moderator)) 6 years ago
Rooney and Owen have struck up quite a friendship at United and if Rooney has any influence over Capello he might try to sway his opinion on the matter. The fact that Owen has played very little at United lately doesn't bode well for him though. I expect we'll see some last chance games for the last few positions over the next three friendlies scheduled. I know Walcott's trip to Germany was a bit of a fiasco but He may very well be the future of English football. They could try Ashley Young but I think he has even less experience and it would be a similar result as Walcott's first time
TheTorresBounce (Liverpool) 6 years ago
I strongly doubt Rooney has any say in who is in or out of the England team, but if Owen starts getting playing time at United you never know. And I would much prefer to see Young on that plane than Walcott simply because I rate Young higher than Walcott anyday
ManUK (Manchester United) 6 years ago
Really Defoe is already a shoe in for the world cup, as is Heskey. The real competition is for that fourth and Fifth spot.

I would like to see Owen in there though it looks unlikely and people disagree. Bent I might like in there too if he plays well. Carlton Cole also looks like he could be included so we have some competition there (especially with crouchie too). So This is what I'd like to see in the English Striker Line up:

1) Rooney
2) Defoe
3) Heskey
4) Owen
5) Bent

This is what I would bet on happening:

1) Rooney
2) Heskey
3) Defoe
4) Crouch
5) Cole
TheTorresBounce (Liverpool) 6 years ago
I'd back Bent to get in ahead of Cole if he keeps putting the performances in, so you'd play Defoe/Rooney then up front?
ManUK (Manchester United) 6 years ago
Well in Truth I can't decide. I like Defoe a lot and see him as a better player than Heskey. Making it so Him and Rooney are the two best strikers in the squad. But Defoe is a very similar player to Rooney, Where as Heskey isn't - he holds up the ball and works well with Wazza.

So My problem is to trust Capello to be Right or not, because he seems to like playing Heskey up front with Rooney

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