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What Now For England?
Matt (Footytube Staff) 1 year ago
Roy Hodgson's team are heading home a little later than some expected a little earlier than we all wanted.

In the limited time Hodgson had with the players I think he did as well as could be expected he made England very organised and difficult to beat conceding only 3 goals in the four games they played. Where England failed was on their inability to keep the ball. As has been the case for many years now England's best players lack the basic technical skills that many of their opponents posses this leads to giving the ball away and having to chase the game. In all bar the Sweden match England's opponents enjoyed the lions share of the possession.

This lack of technical ability is not something that can be readily solved and the adage 'You can't teach an old dog new tricks' applies here. If you have not been coached from day one with these skills it is very unlikely that you will be able to gain them later in your career. It is not a situation that an International manager can resolve on his own the fundamental style of how we play the game has to change and that needs to happen at every level of the game.

The answer would then appear to be that we rip up the current team sheet and start over very much like Germany had to do. The problem we face is that there is not a massive pool of young talent out there to come in and fill the shoes of the present England players. At least not as far as we know, with less and less English players making it onto the pitch regularly in the Premier League England's young players are not getting the time they need to develop and gain experience. Making it almost impossible for Roy to pick new talent with any degree of surety.

So what now? Well I think the process of rebuilding has to begin, the FA need to not only continue with their plans on coaching but to try and encourage teams to either play their young English players or let them go out on loan so they can develop. The fans and the press need to give Roy time to develop a team and take some risks with unproven players safe in the knowledge that a defeat is not going to have everyone baying for his departure. We need to accept that for a time we are going to get worse before we can hope to get better.



Araz (Queens Park Rangers) 1 year ago
We are the Fulham of the international world, it feels horrible to say it, but it's time to accept that for now that is our level and at that level it would have been a robbery to knock Italy out
Sam (Juventus) 1 year ago
I'd actually say the "Liverpool" of international football- insurmountable expectations based almost entirely on the memory of yesteryear with a crop of players who really want to deliver but constantly seem to under-perform when it matters most...
Rockerr (Liverpool) 1 year ago
Don't think it is right to compare England with Liverpool, Liverpool has been on down hill only on the recent few seasons. Before that Liverpool were pretty competitive and came close to winning a few silverwares unlike England who never been competitive and has been shitty in the last 10 or 15 years(even more actually), getting knocked outta' tournaments without giving any fight or even failing to qualify.
I actually think it is stupid to consider England as a giant. What did they achieve to consider themselves as a Giant, they've a WC like during the second world war or something. Other than that they have achived nothing to consider themselves as a big team, not even close
RouslanH (Chelsea) 1 year ago
It was in 1966, but that is still 46 years ago
Matt (Footytube Staff) 1 year ago
It is not that people consider England a giant it is just that it should be based on population and popularity of the game
ManUK (Manchester United) 1 year ago
It's also because England has had so many good club players that have done well when not on international duty.

But these players have been successful when they had other people at their clubs that could keep the ball. Just think about it, Gerrard had Xabi Alonso, Parker has Modric, Chelsea was never known as that type of team but even Lampard had Makelele and Essien who were great protectors of the ball
BeefCurtains (Limerick) 1 year ago
The entire opening post is emblematic of every single whiny post-tournament-England-failure rhetoric that has occured over the last 60 years. Jeeez! Enough already.

"It is not that people consider England a giant it is just that.... "

Whoaaa there, Skip. What happened to all that chest-thumping, bottle-of-lager-in-hand-bravado and unjustified posturing hmm? As I understood things, England are the best in the world. At everything. Are they not? Adopting the false humility stance/playing the wounded soldier has never worked for the 'English' before, why are you starting again now?


"Where England failed was on their inability to keep the ball. "

Really? Well then take comfort in the fact that this has been just ONE of England's problems since long before '66. And they've been bemoaning it ever since.



"It's also because England has had so many good club players that have done well when not on international duty. "

Genuinely lmao! >


"insurmountable expectations based almost entirely on the memory of yesteryear"

If you were to replace the far-too-diplomatic 'insurmountable' with the fully deserved 'unwarranted and unrealistic' then I feel that this statement would be worthy of being riveted and welded above each and every entrance of each and every football ground in each and every corner of England.


ManUK (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Can someone express an opinion without being hated on? Football is huge in England, of course there are going to be many complaints
BeefCurtains (Limerick) 1 year ago
Opinions are one thing. Afflicting self-deception and enfeebled 'soft excuse' based apathy upon others is something else entirely.





   
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