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Can Gay Footballers Ever Come Out?
Marcinny (New York Red Bulls) 3 years ago
By the way, I would love to see more gays in football. Those f.... Football stars are getting all the best female models and whatever sexy woman left out there. Time for them to see the light, frequent those gay bars and leave us mortals who don't kick balls for a leaving to enjoy the best that the opposite sex has to offer
Marcinny (New York Red Bulls) 3 years ago
Very interesting angle, Netned.

Nevertheless, I believe that if one of the good players comes out, he will hit bingo. There are plenty of public campaigns promoting diversity, which are looking desperately for a gay footballer willing to break the ice. Of course one who plays well in the Premier League.

Instead of getting bad money deals, chances are that the openly gay footballers will benefit from their status. Clubs will be reluctant to cut them bad deals because they will risk being vilified as bigots. Of course, the risks are that they will try to get rid of them by dressing room pressure and other indirect dirty tricks
3 years ago
Without wishing to sound overly cynical, I have no doubt that in the majority of cases, gay footballers don't "come out" as they know that it will affect them financially. I have heard of many instances where agents have advised their clients to keep the information private, as it would seriously impact on their marketability, either in terms of big money moves or sponsorship.

Gay, straight, bi or whatever, the common denominator in modern football is money, which greatly supersedes any desire to act as any kind of ambassador for their perceived cause.



CHELSEA61 (Chelsea) 3 years ago
Proliferation of hatred in any form is rampant in all sports. The issue of gay men in sports is always tough to talk about publicly because the people who preach hate are usually the most aggressive and the first to take a stand on the subject, usually with their fists raised. I do agree with Juno that racism is still the biggest ugly secret in football. For a person to make the desicion to come out, they need to feel comfortable and if someone on the team speaks out in a negative way about gay people then it creates a poisonous environment in which no-one would feel comfortable admitting they're gay. Often times this is the case in the locker room and probably the main reason that most atheltes remain in the closet until they retire
Juno (AC Milan) 3 years ago
Seriously, racism is a bigger problem in football...
Rob12 (Manchester United) 3 years ago
I couldn't care if there gay or not, only idiot fans and players abuse like the spainish
Joeymac (Manchester United) 3 years ago
If an australian rugby player came out of the closet, then a football player definitely can. Believe me, half the people in american stereotype football players as gay anyway. I wonder what the percentage actually is?
Ant (Liverpool) 3 years ago
The average is roughly one in seven I believe, though that sounds high.

Basically it means on every starting eleven, statistically, one player on the pitch is gay. Obviously that doesn't necessarily ring true because I would imagine a lot of gay men would not get into football in the first place
Juno (AC Milan) 3 years ago
Is this topic saying that Gary Neville should finally coming clean with his preference?


Illuminatii (Arsenal) 3 years ago
Hahahahahahahaha, look at how they both closed their eyes
Ant (Liverpool) 3 years ago
The kiss was bad, holding the face was worse, but the tongues? Unnecessary

You just know if this was Carragher and Gerrard the United fans would absolutely never shut up about it.

Welcome TO manchester
Tony (footytube staff) 3 years ago
Team bondage ant, I mean bonding.... Ahemmm
Juno (AC Milan) 3 years ago
LOL, for all we know, Man Utd might spark a new trend of MEN kissing MEN as Celebrations!    Yucks
Ant (Liverpool) 3 years ago
No-one can argue that Neville isn't passionate about his team
Bloodbrothers (Barcelona) 3 years ago
Ant you didn't finish the word:neville is passionate about his teammates
JamalPortland (Chelsea) 4 years ago
Hmmm this is weird, I'm not saying I hate gay people but flaming gay people I can't really stand. But for some reason if someone was to say "oh that guys a faggot" in school I wouldn't care but if they were to say that about a soccer player who is actually gay I'd get defensive and feel a bit offended. I think because skill isn't judged by whether you're gay or straight and it shouldn't matter if he's gay or not, if you're a fan of the club you're a fan of the club, just because 1 player is gay that doesn't mean that you can't like them. Maybe I'll reconsider my feelings on how I use those words
Ant (Liverpool) 4 years ago
Kick Homophobia Out of Football



Interesting advert. Warning: strong language
Andy (Rangers) 4 years ago
'Interesting' ad indeed!

I think it is an extremely important issue but the advert misses the point....

A lot of behaviour is unacceptable in everday life but is 'accepted' in football grounds, they could have executed it a lot better. It seems to be simply relying on shock tactics to get the point across, which shouldnt really be the case.
Borg (Manchester United) 4 years ago
Its very unfortunate what gay players have to put up with. I think that the times are changing and tolerance will creep in slowly but surely. I mean look at the anti-racism stand that fifa has taken. I can see acceptance of all sexuality gaining support as it becomes more acceptable in society. Even though it should be accepted by now society is resistant to change. Good topic
Senthil (Chelsea) 4 years ago
FA Campaign - Watch The Controversial Anti Homophobia Advert
He dreaded going to work with his colleagues. By the time he got into training, he was so nervous he felt sick. "I was like a bullied kid on his way to school to face his tormentors," wrote Graeme Le Saux, the former England and Chelsea defender, in his autobiography.

For 14 years, Le Saux endured the taunts of everyone from team-mates and players such as Robbie Fowler, who bent over in front of him and pointed at his backside during a match, to thousands of vociferous fans chanting obscenities. The cultured left-back was, in a sense, England's first outed footballer. And he was not even gay.

Le Saux's experience, just because he took an interest in the arts, read the Guardian and was not part of the game's laddish drinking culture, was so traumatic that he considered quitting football. Far worse, however, were the years of abuse suffered by Justin Fashanu, the only professional English footballer to come out as gay, who took his own life in 1998.

After becoming Britain's first £1m black player, Fashanu's career went downhill under Brian Clough at Nottingham Forest. Hearing rumours that Fashanu was visiting gay bars, Clough confronted him, later writing in his autobiography: "'Where do you go if you want a loaf of bread?' I asked [Fashanu]. 'A baker's, I suppose.' 'Where do you go if you want a leg of lamb?' 'A butcher's.' 'So why do you keep going to that bloody poofs' club?'"

The Justin Campaign, named in honour of Fashanu, is just one of a group of diversity and gay rights organisations who expressed "grave concerns" this week when the Football Association hurriedly cancelled the launch of a film intended to confront homophobia. Previously, it was reported that the FA had been struggling to find high-profile players to support the film; now, English football's governing body is to conduct further consultation on the hard-hitting video that shows a man abusing workmates and commuters with anti-gay taunts before doing the same at a football match. It may never be released in its current form.

While English football's administrators dither, homophobia endures in the modern game. The stadiums may be plusher than ever but they still reverberate to offensive anti-gay chants, and homophobic "banter" is widespread in dressing rooms.

The list of openly gay sporting heroes around the world is a short one. Famous names include basketball's John Amaechi, hurling's Donal Og Cusack, Olympic gold medal-winning diver Matthew Mitcham and, most notably in Britain, Nigel Owens, the Welsh international rugby referee, and Gareth Thomas, Wales's most-capped player and the former British Lions captain, who came out last December.

Of about 4,000 professional footballers in England and Wales, however, none will openly acknowledge they are gay. Paul Elliott, the former Chelsea and Celtic star who works with football diversity campaign group Kick It Out, has said at least 12 Premier League players are gay. After Thomas came out, the publicist Max Clifford revealed that he advised two high-profile gay Premiership stars to keep their sexuality secret because football "remains in the dark ages, steeped in homophobia".

The Professional Footballers' Association has taken advice from Amaechi over how to tackle homophobic abuse in the game. "There's no point beating around the bush," says its chief executive, Gordon Taylor. "Football is a macho world but then so was the armed forces, and that has changed."

Who is to blame for the repression and prejudice hanging over football? Abusive fans? Homophobic team-mates? Or the stuffed shirts at the FA and leading clubs who haven't a clue about the modern world? Ben Summerskill, chief executive of Stonewall, describes football as "institutionally homophobic", and says the FA is significantly behind other workplaces in tackling the problem. "The FA has been in denial at a senior level, and until recently they did not acknowledge that there was any serious problem," he says.

Traditionally homophobic, macho and conservative professions such as investment banking and the armed forces are, according to Summerskill, significantly better at addressing homophobia than football.

"It's ironic that the work we're doing with the army is much more advanced than what is happening in football. We're sending openly gay and lesbian people to fight in Afghanistan, but we can't send openly gay people to fight for the World Cup this summer.

"The chiefs and generals in the armed services understand that people perform better when they can be themselves at work – you feel more comfortable and are more productive – and that will be true of professional football, when it finally happens, as well."

Rather like Le Saux, former Scotland international Pat Nevin was teased in the dressing room by fellow footballers for his esoteric tastes. "I was interested in the theatre and the arts and so I got the 'you must be gay' thing – to which I sniggered and said, 'I'm not and I don't care if you think I am,'" he says.

During his playing career for Everton and Chelsea, Nevin was closely involved in the first anti-racism campaigns in football. But, perhaps surprisingly, he says he feels slightly differently about homophobia in the game. He believes the football world would quickly accept gay players and there are actually no insurmountable obstacles to them coming out; it is just up to them to reveal their sexuality.

"You hate to see homophobia out there, and you don't want to hear it or have it in the clubs, but if there are any gay players they should just come out. That may sound heartless, and I am sure if you are gay there are all sorts of fears and worries, but I do think football can probably cope with it."

In fact, Nevin believes football may be being unfairly tarnished for homophobia when there are actually very few gay footballers; he says he has never met one who is known to be gay. "Gay people have come out in other sports. Football gets battered for certain things which it doesn't deserve to get battered for. If a player comes out and is then hounded out of the game, that's when we should go for football."

Summerskill however believes there are high-profile footballers who are gay and in a similar position to Gareth Thomas, whose sexuality was known and accepted by those close to him after Thomas confided in coaches and senior Welsh team-mates three years before he came out. But it's not an easy place to come out. "We've talked to professional footballers who have explicitly said there is homophobia in their dressing rooms," Summerskill says. "That doesn't just make a difference to whether you will come out, but also how you play."

Clifford believes that it is unlikely a Premiership star will come out in the near future, but that if they do, they are likely to be an established, experienced star with a long career behind them and little to lose. Summerskill says he would be surprised if we did not see an openly gay footballer within a decade. But he does not believe high-profile players have a moral obligation to come out, even if it would undoubtedly help thousands of other young people – and footballers – wrestling with their sexuality. He prefers to quietly stress the positive benefits – both personal and professional – that have been widely expressed by openly gay sports stars such as Thomas and Martina Navratilova.

Thomas, who only came out towards the end of his career, admitted that he "could never have come out without first establishing myself and earning respect as a player", but then spoke of "the amazing response" he received.

At the PFA, Taylor fears the tragic example of Fashanu still looms large over professional footballers. But there are more encouraging instances of sporting heroes being open about their sexuality in great adversity. The Australian rugby league star Ian Roberts was the country's first professional player to come out in 1995; a courageous act in a notoriously macho sport. When he retired three years later, he reflected that, "The public reaction when I came out is my highlight over anything I've accomplished on the field."



   
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