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FootballFacts (Chelsea) 3 years ago
Liverpool Have had more shots than any other team in Europe's top 5 leagues this season, with 384 attempts on goal
Madder (Liverpool) 3 years ago
We will turn it into goals.... Mark my words
Shanksbond (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Rodgers spending

Sahin 3m loan fee
Assaidi 3m
Allen 15m
Borini 12m
Yesil 1m

Total 34m



Ltm017 3 years ago
15m on Allen? 12m for Borini?    I don't know how you guys are not frustrated
Greatchelsea (Chelsea) 3 years ago
Where is borini? .... Havent seen him play for a while...
Shanksbond (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Borini recovering from broken foot. @ltm017 not frustrated? Shows ya don't get awful lot for 34 million. Would be better to give one million to me and will go to casino haha
Suppose get even less for 35 million then.... Carroll can come to casino too.... He's injured and needs to get out of nolans house for awhile
Ltm017 3 years ago
Hahaha You can get a lot for that though. Why not? There is no reason why teams with less cash are going out and buying cheaper players who are better quality. Someone needs to be replaced and horizons need to be broadened.

LOL one million and the casino? Haha you are going to take Carroll to the casino too? Should be interesting lol
Shanksbond (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Players have crazy valuations these days. The cheaper players that you mentioned have quality which is a source of opinion amongst a viewer of his skills on the pitch. Theres many cheaper players that have turned out to be bad purchases. The difference is that its an epic fail to be transferred for large fee and not play well every week. Who would you replace?
[account-removed] 3 years ago
There is some value in the market though. We've gotten Dembele for 15 million, Vertonghen for 10 million, and Lloris for 12. Though, we also did get Bentley for 15. That ought to make you feel better about players that haven't clicked

I think the scouts for both Liverpool and Tottenham need an upgrade and an overhaul. Liverpool's been overpaying for players for a while now, unfortunately
Ltm017 3 years ago
Let me see.... Henderson, Allen, Downing, Sterling. Basically I think midfield needs a makeover. Sterling shouldn't be a starter, he should be a sub because he has lot more to learn, especially decision making wise. Your midfield is sub material and I don't say that to be rude or anything, but there is no way Liverpool can contend with the top 4 or 5 with that midfield
[account-removed] 3 years ago
You've actually forgotten to name Gerrard and Lucas, their two most influential players. I think you're being a bit too harsh, ltm017. They are missing a lot of players through injury. Borini would have been playing if he were fit, Sahin is injured. I think of all the players you've mentioned, only Downing is a starter, and Allen gets a lot of bad press. He's a young player in a new club in a new role. He'll do fine with a bit of time.

This is what I see their team as, correct me if I am wrong, liverpool members.

-------------------Reina--------------------
---Johnson-----Agger-----Skrtel-----Enrique
--------------------Levia-----------------
-------------Gerrard------Sahin------------
----Borini----------Suarez-----------Downing

Subs: Jones, Carragher, Wisdom, Henderson, Allen, Downing, Sterling.

If anything, I'd say they're missing a striker that can back Suarez up. Maybe shift Suarez out wide to the left, and have a good target man up front
Shanksbond (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Midfield of gerrard, sahin and lucas definitely not sub standard. The problem is not being able to play best trio enough so far. Agree sterling not ready yet. Liverpool big problem is not having good enough wingers to play Rodgers system and lacking firepower upfront. All top four sides have more than two frequent goalscorer. Liverpool have Suarez only. Liverpool goals conceded have been shocking over Christmas period. I put that down to not defending well enough as a team and individual errors. Liverpool need another centre back to give agger or skyrtel a breather. Don't think Coates fast enough. Did Rodgers pick the right team against stoke? It is his first season in the job, he's likely to be more prone to errors. Should he have played taller players and been tighter defensively? He is true to his philosophy and it is against his nature to not use his own style
Ltm017 3 years ago
Am I being too harsh? The player I named are the ones I feel could make the bench if Liverpool bring into two midfielders that are better. I agree about the striker part they would definitely need someone else to help up top. Borini is not good enough and Sterling it will take more time with him.

Magneto I am looking at that lineup right now and I don't think it is good enough.

Take out anyone except for Gerrard and Suarez(I will not count Sahin because he is injured.) and go to Spain, France, Germany anywhere in Europe or even South America and I am almost 100% Liverpool will be in a better position at the end of the season and thriving next season. The midfield is lacking and Liverpool concentrate too much on players only in England. Whoever is doing the scouting needs to do better
[account-removed] 3 years ago
The question though, is what exactly are the boundaries "not good enough"? Are they not good enough to challenge Barcelona? Of course. That is a given. Are they not good enough to challenge for the PL title? Of course. They aren't. Are they good enough to challenge for top 4? Truth be told, with a striker in there, I think they are.

I think we've also got to be realistic. Liverpool has a terrific history, and no one can take that away from them. But at the moment, they need to focus on one step at a time and start pushing for 4th before they attract top players again. Right now, they're overpaying for decent players that wouldn't conform to Liverpool's standards say 5 years ago. But right now, they need to start from the ground up, rebuild some lost ground with some budget constraints after some poor scouting in the past. The same applies to Spurs. Going to be a tough and long battle
JestaYNWA (Liverpool) 3 years ago
*applauds Ltm and Magneto*
[account-removed] 3 years ago
.... You, applauding? No poisoned cookies? No throwing me off the solidarity boat?
Madder (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Enzo Zidane (17 years), son of Zinedine Zidane will follow a two month trial at LFC in February 2013.


Link: www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/ff-football-forum/110...

Wow.... Enzo got his debut for the Real Madrid be team in 2010, 49 matches with 38 assists and 8 goals so far
Customize (Real Madrid) 3 years ago
Like father, like son
Rockerr (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Can't find that news in any other place
Thomasfk (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Isn't his actual name Enzo Fernandez?
[account-removed] 3 years ago
@Thomasfk I think his legal name is still Enzo Zidane, but at Real Madrid they call him Enzo Fernandez to take the pressure of his father's surname off of him
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
If anyone watched the Everton/Chelsea post match interviews with the players it seems Lampard won't be staying at Chelsea (even though he played for West Ham before) next season. I couldn't imagine our owners getting rid of Gerrard/Carra.... I'd be devastated
Hmohammed (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Well Chelsea is different to Liverpool. Chelsea' success is based on spending hundreds of millions of pounds and 90% of their fans didn't support them until 2005. Liverpool is a team with knowledgeable fans that understand the traditions and history of Liverpool and that's why they love them. Our success was based on one man taking control of a weak league 2 side and rising to the top without the help of a sugar daddy owner. Because of our limited cash we understand who legends are and appreciate them, but for Chelsea their mentality is "lets buy another legend"
Cloudst (Footytube Mod) 3 years ago
Or.... NO falcao NO party
Shanksbond (Liverpool) 3 years ago
What really going on? Lampard still want massive wages? Don't mind having Carra and Gerrard at club forever but their renumeration has to be in line with their contribution to the success of the team
Guidas (Chelsea) 3 years ago
"90% of their fans" omg who cares about foreign fans. We had a big enough fan base in England before roman took over. Where did you get this idea from? Its only you liverpool fans who think this
[account-removed] 3 years ago
@Guidas What
Zilch (Footytube Moderator) 3 years ago
"Omg who carse about foreign fans" @Guidas: You're kidding right? Do you realise the potential growth capability for any club in England that gains international interest? Do you realise what an enormous boost it was for United when they cashed in on the asian market in the late 90's?

I think you should probably stick to cheering on your team and ignore debates about foreign influence if you have such narrow vision
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
A Chelsea fan is going around to other teams forums and asking Lampard or Gerrard? Pretty interesting seeing some of the responses from neutral fans
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Gerrard pretty fair and square actually I saw that in man utd forums but if I would have answered it there would have sounded pretty biased to mancs so I left it, anyways who cares gerrard is better and will always be here in this forum...
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Well of course Steven is better.... He's more complete in regards to the central midfield position! Has been the heart & soul of this football club for many years and is a role model to veterans & youngsters alike. Captain for club and country speaks volumes, and most importantly is a ONE MAN CLUB
[account-removed] 3 years ago
Honestly, it would be just an opinion that we'd be able to give, and not more than that. I'll take myself as a test case, and put forth this theory....

1) I don't watch either Chelsea or Liverpool play for 90 minutes. I don't watch the highlights even certain times. How would I form a valid opinion to give an answer to that?

2) Even if I did watch 90 minutes, I have a healthy respect for Liverpool, and consider Chelsea a rival team. Would I be able to put aside all bias? Try as I might, I'd find it very difficult to do so.

3) They've never really played well together while playing for England, although Gerrard has always played a more integral part of the English squad.

I think people really shouldn't compare. They're both good players and legends for their clubs in their own rights. I think that really should be that. I hope people don't take the neutral responses too seriously
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
5:57 - who else can do that?    
Gregmaverick (Arsenal) 3 years ago
Agree with magento.... I wish the question was whom do you like the most? In which case you would get an unbiased answer...
[account-removed] 3 years ago
That is even worse than highlights, Dan, to form an opinion. Heck, I'd give you a video that'd make you think that Bentley is the god of football. Evidence really needs to be only valid if someone's seen a 90 minute game for a season and watched the two players play week in week out
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
I agree with you magneto on they never should be compared....

On one hand they are having vastly different roles one is captain and have been carrying club on his own shoulders where as other is true servant and bleeds blue.... One scores important goals other scores goals more frequently....

But on the other hand they both belong to the same position I mean both being deployed in the same role over the yrs makes the comparison inevitable.... For some of them....

And when a liverpool fan answers that question to a neutral fans it always sounds little biased.... So I always do avoid these kinda conversation on the prem page or any page for that matter....
[account-removed] 3 years ago
But do they really play in the same position Sam? Lampard is quite central to the midfield, whereas I've seen Gerrard play on the wings, and in the hole behind the striker on many an occasion. I could be mistaken though...
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
No you are not mistaken but he has been experimented in every possible position in the midfield.... Bcos of the versatility he posses(hope m not sounding biased here)

And more of in that hole as 3rd striker was when benitez thought of him playing and he was exceptional there aswell....

But most of the time he plays kinda more in central midfled and same is the case this year as we had no lucas for 1st half of the season and allen not being so good at pressing, he was playing way behind than where he used to play under that benitez era.
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Well the question should be if you were a manager who would you pick in your starting squad? Gerrard in midfield or Lampard in midfield?

The video is not intended to form an opinion on the player but rather showcase all the different goals that Gerrard has scored. Well everyone knows Bentley is not the god of football because he's right dog shite compared to Gerrard. Gerrard has played cm/cam/rw hell in the Champions League final he played at RB position for a bit
[account-removed] 3 years ago
I don't think you sound biased at all, Sam, for even I know Gerrard to be a very versatile player. I've seen him play in every possible position in my limited time of watching Liverpool, and that is no mean feat.

Dan, its again, a tough question to answer. If I were a manager, I'd be watching every player in the English squad day in day out, go to games, and if not, atleast view recordings. That'd be my job and I'd scout out every weakness, every strength. That's what I hope Roy is doing now for England. As a lay man who was once interested in the English squad but hasn't followed much of international football in years, I'd still fail to answer that question accurately.

The one thing I can say though, without any hesitation, is that Gerrard is more of a team player than Lampard. I sometimes still wonder why they both haven't managed to play well together
MyJohnson (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Who's the England captain?
Cloudst (Footytube Mod) 3 years ago
Mags simple poor management in England

Truthfully though depends who compliments the style better. Lampard is good in a certain tactical set up as gerrard is good in his respective tactical set up. I've said many times both are class players and when comparing the two it's really how the person views them if you really want to distinguish the two. Judgement call in the end
[account-removed] 3 years ago
Poor management in England? Yeah. Nothing new there. I blame Jesta. He's nice and blamable
[account-removed] 3 years ago
We usually win when mr shelvy dosent play...
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Watch out.... Voldemort will cast a spell on you
Hri100 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Shut it Peter or I'll batter you freaking wall.... Sit tight and keep quiet !
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Thought this was was a real professional performance considering the illness issues.

Flew out in first half played really well and put game to bed.

Second half we just seemed to see it out, we knew they would go for it and if we did too they could of countered and there was no need for that.

Efficient and simple don't give them chances don't push it, not too exciting but glad we can do it when needed.

Two thoughts first I've noticed that so far this season without enough goal scorers in the team we have to go all out to get decent results.

Performances that should get 1-0s or 2-1s get draws and losses and we have to put in a 6-0 or 8-0 style performance to get decent scoreline wins.

This game and Fulham we easily could of scored more goals, hope that is fixed by the January recruits.

Another observation, one that gives me confidence, was the amount of times Suarez would be jinking around with the ball off to the sides of the goal.

It was frustrating today as Sterling, Henderson and Downing aren't the kind of player to take advantage of that and get in and around the penalty area so when Suarez was checking there was nobody there to try and get the ball to so he had to try something else.

Rodgers was talking about that in the fan meet last week and how important it was to recruit the kind of players who will be in those positions hungry for goals for Suarez to find. Hopefully with Sturridge coming into the squad he can bag some more goals and lighten the load on super Luis. If Suarez get's another tricky striker up top with him who likes the 1-2's and making runs behind defenders we can increase our scoring chances.

Sure that happened at least three or four times so that tactic could really work very well for us soon.

Good result lets hope we carry some consistency into the next game as that's been our main failing this season.

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Match Stats:

QPR 0 - LFC 3

Possession: 33. 6% - 66. 4%

Shots on target: 6 - 7
Total shots: 14 - 19
Shots from outside the box: 13 - 5
Shots from inside the box: 1 - 14

Corners: 1 - 9

Total passes: 303 - 614
Passing accuracy: 77. 9% - 84. 5%

Total crosses: 9 - 20
Successful crosses: 25% - 15%

Shanksbond (Liverpool) 3 years ago
When borini returns, he will give more support to suarez
Madder (Liverpool) 3 years ago


The Day The Earth Stopped Masturbating -- 2012 -- Trailer HD

Can't imagined some one really thought about all this LOL
Georgio (Bayern München) 3 years ago
The last 10 seconds was the most disturbing thing i've seen all week and I usually watch some disturbing s**t lmfao  
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Ohhhh man I'm honestly rolling on the ground laughing.... That s**t is ridiculous lmao
Madder (Liverpool) 3 years ago
LOL both of them reminds me of Teja and Jesta LOL
YoloToure (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Very shortsighted of them at the end there. Coulda both lived in a world where they never would have had to masturbate again
Livever (Liverpool) 3 years ago
If we score early we have larger chances to win the match. Liverpool should buy pure striker. I have no bad sight if we buy younger striker from median clubs, but I couldn't be happier if we can sign big names. And the key to enter top four may clinicalas not to score more goals but to score them early in the game
Hmohammed (Liverpool) 3 years ago
We all want big names mate but Liverpool isn't what it used to be so big names aren't attracted to us anymore unless it's for more money or a childhood dream
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
I think we don't only need one striker though our priority will be one but apart from that we need a strong and compatible midfielder....

Like yesterday when wesley sniejder was linked with us, I was like I really want him here but that's never gonna' happen but someone like him long shooting, defensive at times, and all sort of passing range.... And to be quite honest I don't see point in playing allen once if lucas is playing I would love to play sahin instead of allen if he comes to what he used to be....
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Suarez came to us.... No champions league.... One of the best strikers on the planet! Big names would be nice but we need players who actually want to PLAY FOR liverpool. I agree with Sam about the midfielder. Now though the team needs a striker (Sturridge in) Ince looks likely. A CAM would be great for us. Is Sahin coming back anytime soon -_-?
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Well TBH suarez didn't come to us only bcos we wanted him, he wanted to leave AJAX anyway bcos some issues where going on by that time and ajax denied to stand by him.... Some friction on biting down the ear where going on and everything was caught on the tape.... So there was no way that ajax would have defended him and that let him down....

But anyway no point talking that thing over we have him and he is absolute world class player but right now there are strikers who are either too world class and are already settled at good clubs and will not join us or not good enough for us(or maybe I don't know if there are few) and ba was the one who would have been the perfect buy for us now seems to be on his way to chelsea.... Plus huntelaar and walcott all seems to be impossible for time being so sturridge has to establish himselves quickly and start taking the responsibilities with suarez....
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
About our wingers....

I don't understand the sterling and downing combination not that it has anything to do with our performance or something but as far as I see characteristics wise they kinda are similar players.... Both have got tremendous pace cuts on the inside with great flair....

Where as suso is something different he contains the ball very well he can produce some the terrific through balls and also if on one of the wings we are having either of dowining or sterling and on the other suso then it kinda gives us more advantage.... One of the best thing about suso is he has great vision and can open lot of space if played in the advanced role....
KingLucas (Liverpool) 3 years ago
The way you described Downing and Sterling they look like wingers. The way you described Suso he looks like a CAM; therefore the reason he doesn't often play as a winger
[account-removed] 3 years ago
Sterling is young so its his luck he has time to learn. Many times he takes players on but in the end fizzzles out. Time will teach him that speed is great but if you can't turn you'll drive straight off the cliff. Suso is suspect on the outside, his overall speed is not like sterling but he is quite creative. Suso seems to like to play closer to the middle than out on the flanks
Madder (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Suso was brought in by rafa as the successor of xabi.... They have similar quality... Good in dictating play, good vision and great long pass range.... I can understand the experiment using him on the wide... But it is not playing him to his best.... And when given his preferred role... And this what the kid can give:




Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
My main point of concern here is whenever the squad has been selected we have always gone with downing on one hand and either suso or sterling on the other hand now roles are different class is different but at the end of the day only one can play in any of the given role either as a winger or as a forward or whatever you guys have to say about suso's positioning....

So why not to play suso instead it gives us more attributes I don't have anything against sterling nor am I worried about recent dip in the form of sterling he is young and have ample time to prove himselves but its just about extra creativity.... My 2 cents....

Madder: thanx for sharing this look at the f*****g vision I really want to see him and assaidi more but unfortunately downing have kicked the form and he has been immensely strong from what he use to be.... So cutting down the chances of assaidi....

Anyways its always good to have competition inside the group of players it always helps team moving forward....
Madder (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Personally I want suso in our midfield trio.... Alongside lucas and gerrard.... Lucas can hold the line.... Gerrard move forward.... And suso roaming on the half line try to feed long range through ball or long ball.... It will be the same principle like gerrard-alonso-masch era....

I knew rodgers like short passes but for me.... Alternatives are important....
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
True but looking at the trend I don't know if that is ever gonna' happen.... Playing him can make it lot easier for suarez...
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Suso is much better in central midfield. Him and Gerrard dictating the tempo of the game will help us. The squad is crying out for a pacy/tricky winger
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
In the last interview he was talking about the players playing tactically....

And he was mentioning the reason on why is he playing downing on the johnson's side more than enriques's side cos he considers el toro to be a runner and he covers up lots of ground up and down but he is not that much of a attacking minded player as johnson is so if dowining plays on the side of enrique he might ultimately end up coming in the way of enrique.... Also he explained on why is shelvey being played in such an advanced role....

Basic reason behind shelvey playing an advanced role is when enrique moves forward he does not do the basic cutting of the player on to the inside so BR wants someone who is good on to the inside and around the box hence shelvey instead, now some of us are convinced that suso has that ability in the central role so why not play suso in that inside role that also can be the other option playing 4-3-3.
Shanksbond (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Assaidi is a pacy/tricky winger. Don't think Rodgers signings have had the desired impact. Now he has to go buy another pacy/tricky winger
Kain (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Every time alan hansen is on MOTD or motd2 he drives me up the wall with his boring analysis when I don't understand what he's talking about half of the time...
KingLucas (Liverpool) 3 years ago
He played for Liverpool once so I am sure he says good things about the club
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Hansen was a terrific player, some of the older Liverpool fans I've talked to said he's the best defender that's worn the famous Red. He takes the piss when Judas was on there and some other players lmao
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Can anyone give me link to MOTD highlights...
BlackAna (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Thank you very much...
Sam6194 (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Gerrard joked that opponents should be pleased that they only have to face the No. 7 twice each season
Madder (Liverpool) 3 years ago
   #InBrendanWeTrust | Liverpool FC | Season 2012/2013 | HD
Kop4Ever (Liverpool) 3 years ago
In Brendan We Trust
Madder (Liverpool) 3 years ago
My wish following the last game of 2012:

1. We carried the flair of the game.... And build on consistency
2. Enrique won't be out long because he is a joy to watch
3. More time for hendo because he proven he can step up everytime he was called upon
4. The defence department can shut off opponents like they did against QPR
5. Suarez keep scoring!

Ynwa
Madder (Liverpool) 3 years ago
Hendo played through illness.... And did give us the show we want from him.... And for that I think the lad deserve respect
AngeOuDemon (Liverpool) 3 years ago
I am always been a fan of Hendo. Like, Lucas did, he will prove his critics wrong
Shanksbond (Liverpool) 3 years ago
It could have backfired, if he had a played poorly, fans would have been wondering why he played! He improved as the game went on. He does have good potential



   
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