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Opinion Time -would You Have Disallowed This Goal?
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Heres a george best goal from the 70's for northern ireland v england at windsor park belfast, would you have disallowed this goal, and if so why?


Somere (Manchester United) 1 year ago
No no rule was broken and the ball was in mid air when he kicked it, if it was in the keepers hands the maybe there could have been some protest
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Looking at gordon banks and bobby moore, I think they both knew they got out of jail on that one.... Lol
Juno (AC Milan) 1 year ago
Agreed with Somere that since the ball left the hands, its probably a goal. But it won't be useful to block the keepers in Bestie's way nowadays as they will most probably purposely or not, barge into you and fall ridiculously, then asking for a yellow card for attacking them physically. LOL. A steal from them is more probable.... Blocking their way is a no-no for me...
Rob12 (Manchester United) 1 year ago
It's a goal, but some ref's would give it some wouldnt. The ball left the area, but also there is a football rule saying players have to be outside the box when the ball is kicked even though it's not used in todays football that maybe why
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Well I have never heard anyone say it wasnt a goal, and even guys involved in the match looking back have all said the same.... GOAL, even the england guys, as I said the ref was at a loss what to do, as it was a first, and never seen before
Jetlifari (Arsenal) 1 year ago
It's unsportmanslike conduct. I've seen Ronaldinho, Zidane and some other strikers score goals like that and it's been disallowed. It's in the air but some refs view it as not being very nice
Juno (AC Milan) 1 year ago
Perhaps the Ref thinks there's an infringement on the keepers' movement, but from Ronaldinho vids, its a steal! Nothing unsportsmanlike
Pragathish (AC Milan) 1 year ago
Well come on guys, its nothing unfair.... Imagine yourself playing with your mates-won't you do everything(except cheating) possible to sneak in a goal?
Those two goals were purely killer and shows the players intelligence, instinct and opportunism.... Its wicked after all!
Blueskiesahead (Chelsea) 1 year ago
Now there is nothing written in the laws of the game that say a player can or cannot do this, however, it is kind of an unwritten law. Just like when the ref blows the whistle due to an injury and the play is restarted with a drop ball. There is nothing in the laws of the game that state that the team that didn't have possession when the whistle was blown must pass the ball back to the team that did have possession. But we all do it anyway. It's sportsmanship. As a ref, I would have allowed the goal, because it really would be wrong to not allow it. However I would be about as harsh as humanly possible on that team afterwards
Sharpoon (Hull City) 1 year ago
Two seasons ago Carlton Cole scored a goal in that very fashion against Hull and it was disallowed, Zola was not a happy man
Ltm017 1 year ago
Yes I would disallow it. I really don't like goals like that.... Yeah a ref can say like what juno said infrigment on keepers movement or something of the sort. Goalkeepers are and should be protected too...
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Yeah but if you read my post below ltm017, keepers and defenders held all the aces back then, you could pass the ball back to the keeper, which made for boring games, and there was no real time limit on how long the keeper could hold the ball.
So bests goal was a breath of fresh air, and its not as if gordon banks didn't see him.... Lol, and your the first person I have ever heard say it wasnt a goal, maybe in todays game you could be right, but not back then
Pragathish (AC Milan) 1 year ago
I think this doesn't need to be disallowed,no rule hasn't been crossed.I remember 'Dinho scoring a similar goal:

Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Nothing wrong with that goal either, the george best goal caused all sorts of questions at the time, and most people came to the conclusion that the ref simply didn't know what to do, because they had never seen it done before, and therefore he disallowed a really cracking oppotunist goal, I must admit, that's the first time I seen the dinho goal, and it should have stood as well, two players penalised for genius and opportunism
Ltm017 1 year ago
This one is tricky.... What the keeper thinking.... I guess this one I might allow but then again if I was a ref I wouldn't just because I don't think it right that a keeper should have to fight his way out of his own box
Northstream (Tottenham Hotspur) 1 year ago
Nothing wrong with either of those two goals!
ElPeloHernandez (America de Cali) 1 year ago
Those are both goals not in the keepers hands the George Best goal is too funny how would you let him do that.... He threw the ball so high in the air
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
I think both are wonder goals, scored by two of the greatest players ever to walk this earth, it just goes to show officialdom doesent regonise genius.... Lol
Kimaway17 (Liverpool) 1 year ago
I would not
Adamaus (Manchester United) 1 year ago
I would. In fact a while a go after watching that ronaldinho video I tried doing it in a game but the gave me a yellow for it :/, don't know how he came to that conclusion
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Lol adam, did you kick the keeper before the ball? , maybe that's where you went wrong mate.... Lol
Jetlifari (Arsenal) 1 year ago
Lol! Don't kick the keeper man
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
I think adam has incorporated a bit of aussie rules into his game.... Lol
Ant (Liverpool) 1 year ago
Back in the day, no, I wouldn't have disallowed it. Keepers could pick up passbacks, drop the ball and collect it again. As far as I know, the ball has to be in both of the keepers hands or else its considered to be challengable. For example, I remember a goal where a keeper was holding the ball in one hand, ready to kick it upfield, and someone ran in and headed it out of his hand from behind, scoring a goal.

However, these days that would be considered ungentlemanly conduct, or similar. Basically, it goes against the spirit of the game. I'd disallow the goal, give the keeper a free kick.... No booking though
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Yep your correct ant, that's another fact about football back in the day, the backpass did ruin games, especially in european games, so it was a ray of sunlight when someone like best or dinho did something like that to lift the game.
I remember that headed goal ant, i've been busting my balls thinking who scored it, it will come to me.... Lol
Juno (AC Milan) 1 year ago
I think you'll find it if you scour through videos labelled as funny footballs. Its definitely in there
ScooterHayes (Chelsea) 1 year ago
Yeah, I thought it was more of a courtesy these days to leave the keeper alone (though strikers do pressure them to make fumbling mistakes) when he had the ball. Not to mention I'm sure there's been an injury as a result of a play like that.... I don't have proof, but players get hurt all the time interrupting kicks. And we all know dangerous challenges would occur if not for tat courtesy anyway.

Didn't a team in this year's World Cup do something similiar? Forlan or somebody.... Maybe Saurez took a shot on goal after a foul, and where typically they'd just play it back to the keeper in the name of fair play, they blasted it and almost scored. It was off the bar or something
HangTime (Chelsea) 1 year ago
Should be disallow. What can the keeper do? They can only hold the ball for 7seconds. You got to look at it from the keeper perspective. Though I love the ronaldinho goal. He caught the keeper off guard
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Hangtime, in todays game you could be right, but not back then mate, there was no real rule on the time, and as I said above the game was easier for defenders and keepers when you were allowed to pass the ball back to the keeper. So the defenders and keepers already held all the aces, another reason why forwards were better in them old days.... Lol
Hill (Arsenal) 1 year ago
My whole life I've learned that you have to move away from the keeper when he has the ball in his hands. Now that I think about it.... What a BS rule! He's another player out on the pitch, the same as anyone else. They just get to use their hands-only difference.

I don't think it should be disallowed. The keeper should not receive any special rules. I would say you can't knock it out of his hands though. That is just dirty and could lead to people mauling the keep haha. I have a match tonight and I'll give it a go. I'm sure I will get carded as Adamaus says he did
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
He doesent move away from you when your bearing down on goal, and more than likely take you out.... Lol, best and dinho just kindly relieved the keeper of the ball, no harm done, great goals.... Lol
Joeymac (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Fine goal by me. As a matter of fact, I was watching this highlight a couple of days ago on youtube and wondered myself why the goal was disallowed. In modern day though, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't allowed because the goalie only has so long to get rid of the ball
Maxwell (Chelsea) 1 year ago
I think this goal should not be allowed. Simply because there was interference from the player and I think if I am right the rule clearly states that there should not be any interference when the goal keeper is clearing the ball out of his hand. That is my opinion
Juno (AC Milan) 1 year ago
I've read the rules before and I'm quite sure there's nothing to prevent a player from blocking, or tackling a keeper. (Except that you shouldn't physically touch or barge at the keeper/ or any other players for that matter) Once the ball leaves the hands of the keeper, its okay to challenge for the ball
Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
Best never touched the keeper, it might have been a bit sneaky, but brilliance none the less, as was dinho's, although his was really sneaky, he ambushed the keeper.... Lol
Electrolex (Ajax) 1 year ago
Van persie also made a goal like this, it got disallowed because the keeper was about to kick the ball and the ref saw that as the goalkeeper still being in control of the ball.

Video here:


Tony (Manchester United) 1 year ago
In todays climate and with the rules they have in place with the keeper having 6 seconds or whatever to clear the ball, they most likely would not give that goal, but I would, if you take imagination out of the game, its dead in the water, so I applaud imagination of this kind, its up to the keeper to be more alert



   
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