All of you Half witted monkeys have made me very humid in recent weeks. The matter of people calling lucas lieva of liverpool not good , or One of the worst players in this season. Well I have not yet found some one who will tell me why he is regarded as " Rubbish " .

On the LFC polls this week he has classed as one of our top perfomers:



(Poll Taken On Liverpoolfc.Com)

Now lucas has been far more creative then a lot of players this season , not just in our team . But many others. He has proved to us he is a valuable player , and also he shows more character then anyone thought he did . When alonso left he left a big hole in our system. Now lucas was young , very inexperienced but yet fought past the rest and showed rafa he can deal with the pressure of the premier league. Pressure that many cannot deal with.

Now people rate lucas so low becouse of his low reputation and style of play. He isn't very flashy but yet has a lot of talents , and has shown much creativism this year. He is also preety solid. He makes a lot of tackles in the game , keeps posession alot and can header a ball well.

Heres a Reference from epltalk.Com:
" For us to label him as a flop is premature. A player doesn’t have to progress at Messi’s rate to become a world class player. Lucas deserves time and Liverpool fans should wish the best for him, however much he may struggle now or in the coming years. He is only 22 and already plays for one of the biggest clubs in the world. He is certainly on the right track."


Now I ask you , People of footytube...Do you Agree With me ?




Comment and Critique on your view of Lucas Lieva. But please Elaborate on your view , no One Liners!

You have my vote mate, I forsee him as the future captain of liverpool fc

I'm one those guys who thought Lucas is just a crap and fit for nothing, but he proved me wrong. He had improved a lot. He is not the same Lucas who used to be. He is now acting as the main link between the defence and attack. His long passes and through ball are also better now.
Many still call him crap and that is because they see him as the replacement for Xabi. But he isn't really a replacement for Xabi. Xabi is a holding mid-fielder who just makes some long passes and offers a lot of creativity. Whereas Lucas is more of a defensive player and he does his duty pretty well. Ofcourse he is not a big creative player but its Rafa's fault playing two defensive minded players(mash and Lucas). Aqualini is the real replacement for Xabi, so when you don't look lucas as a replacement for xabi you won't call him a crappy player.

He'll be a complete mid-fielder very soon. Sometimes I get a feeling that he is better than Mash.
But there are a lot of areas where he has to improve, like shooting, Long passes etc. But overall currently he is pretty good and reliable player. Definitely not an amazing player but not a trash too. More than a back-up

I've always liked Lucas and was quick to come to his defence when people so quickly write him off. I do agree with when you ask people to ask why he's rubbish they don't have an answer.... I believe there just following the crowd but they really don't know jack. Lucas will continue to improve steadily but surely. And its only a matter of time before The Kop starts Chanting his name away like Stevie G

I admit I am one of the half-witted monkeys that don't rate Lucas very highly. I have no doubt he will improve beyond all recognition, and be a very good player in the near future, but for now, for me, I don't think he has the quality needed to be in the centre of midfield for the most successful football club in English history.

When the ball falls to him, I kind of feel like I do when there is a corner and the ball bounces out to Jamie Carragher. No doubt Jamie is (was) a really world class defender but he is absolutely awful at shooting. You know some ballboy will be crawling out on the roof of the stadium in the rain, collecting the shot Jamie took earlier that day. Lucas kind of evokes the same feelings for me. When he has the ball, I have this dread that he just won't do anything very creative with it. I guess we were spoiled with Alonso whipping off 40 yard pinpoint passes last season, but Rafa and the backroom staff must see something in his training sessions that we almost never see out on the pitch.

So, in summary, my feelings for Lucas are that there are great things to come, but we badly need great things right now.

As a counterpoint, here's a compilation of him showing his stuff.

He's young and has time to learn more and become even better than xabi alonso

Not good is not harsh he hasnt impressed me in anyway, I havnt seen him score a goal where I went wow, he hasnt made a pass for me to say that was impressive, he just does an ok job. People I think have the impression that when it was "the good times" at Liverpool he was the one loosing the ball. At the moment not many player in Liverpool squad are really playing well and he looks ok as his game has started to improve.
When the whole team is playing well Lucas is outshone. Mascerano can take and make a brilliant pass and now Alonso the star of Liverpool fc last season was the pass master and now he is gone all you have is a guy who only makes the simple pass which isn't quite upto the Liverpool quality and his all round game needs improving but maybe he will

To those Who Never believed in him haha

Lucas Leiva-hmm.... Not bad but definitely not so good. Its okay, because at first he was like a crappy and a horrible player, but now I see him as a more fine and a confident central mid-fielder. He's developing day by day, that's a good thing.
But still, I must say that he is currently NOT more worth than a back-up mid-fielder. Yes, as I mentioned earlier, he is not so good. His passes are just mediocre level, same with his tackles and his long shots are really horrible. So, I class him not more than a back-up player.
But, this guy is JUST 22 years old. And is always hard-working, confident and ready to work his socks off for the team. These are seriously some good attributes, so in 2-3 years definitely he is going to be a very good defensive mid-fielder.
But for now, he is just mediocre and definitely not a trash, as many call. Has superb future up-front, if he continues to work hard, as he does now

He isn't great.... But I'll accept him as a good player, even though I don't like him. Good topic, a place where we can discuss if he is really good enough to get Liverpool back to where they should be (he isn't :S) but he defends and attacks, a real box-to-box midfielder, the main man when Gerrard or Benayoun are out. I agree with Pragathish - he gets better every match. He's even playing for his national team so he must be good

Certainly lucas can up his game a little and may not be as good as other midfielders in the league, but he is still quality. Personally I don't find him to be the most creative player out there but he does his job. He is a hard working player who helps break up opposition play fairly well and doesn't do a half bad job of distributing play. You also have to remember that he has been given the responsibility of filling in for xabi alonso.... A very, very tough task indeed. Could liverpool do better? Certainly. Is he the best for the position he plays at liverpool? Perhaps. Does he deserve the constant critisism that he does from so many liverpool fans? Definatly not. At least he goes out there and works his absolute hardest, and that's the most you can ask of him

people rate lucas so low becouse of his low reputation and style of play

I think once a player gets a reputation of being rubbish, it becomes pretty hard to get rid of that label. You just hear his name and you automatically think rubbish! Its a bit unfair, really.

On another note, its surprising that he's Brazilian. I mean, really?

You can't force anyone to like him or say anything good about him. Look you ever go to the highlights section and see people vote a side rubbish because they lost! Now that is aggravating. Lucas now he is not the worse player this season, he does his job he does what he is suppose to do. Maybe someday it will change you don't know.... But until then stop calling people half-wit monkey's. If I want to call him rubbish I'll call him rubbish.... If you don't like it deal with it....

Even though I don't believe he is rubbish, he can be much better.... But you never know maybe if he had new management things would be different

Granted, Lucas hasn't been bad this season but he doesn't inspire confidence when he plays and its hard to see him becoming a world-beater! The problem with Lucas is that he lacks any creativity, or an X-factor if you like, He'l never try any killer balls or score any screamers from range, he's just happy to play short passes and leave it to the rest of the team. This is part of the reason we're not creating chances. I could make my peace with this if he was a great tackler but he's average at best, gives away too many easy fouls too. He's not exactly the model of consistency either so I'm not his biggest fan but as long as he's wearing the red of Liverpool I continue to hope that he comes good...

No one calling him rubbish, my mission is complete haha