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Good Player But Wrong Club?

Charliehenry (Arsenal) 2 years ago

There are alot of transfers now and players moving from club to club, so what players do you think have made a bad selection of clubs and possibly ruined there career or at risk of doing that now?

Here are two player I have selected:

Alexander Hleb - Barcelona
Temptation was too much and decided to leave arsenal for Barcelona and didn't really consider whether he would get a game with the number of quality players they have and is now on loan at Stuttgart, the same club Arsenal signed him from.

Diego Forlan - Man United
Made the right choice to go to spain and able to pick up his career but ManU or the premierleague didn't seem to suit him. When he went to Villarreal things turned around and is now see as a key player for Athletico Madrid. Lucky to have moved from ManU straight to Villarreal after his poor goal per game record

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Yeah, I feel sorry for Alex Hleb.... He was glorious at Arsenal!I would rate him as one of the greatest dribblers.... Damn.... One bad move and now he is playing at Stuttgart.... Sigh

Yogan (Chelsea) 2 years ago

Definitely Hleb, Prag and Aeaglan are so right. He messed up there and barely started. Maybe it was just for his recognition, but now he's gone right down the ranks. Poor choice sir

CHELSEA61 (Chelsea) 2 years ago

My number 1 choice for this topic would with out any doubts be Robinho. He is one of two players that gets the nod as starting striker for the best team in world football (Brazil). When it comes to the English game he isn't physical enough or his style isn't suited to the defensive play or ________.... You fill in the blanks? I'm not entirely sure why his form has slipped so badly at Man City but he is a far better player than what we have witnessed this year so far. The problem he will have now is that his stock has fallen so badly who will pay him what he wants to play for them? Or will he go back to Brazil Like Ronaldo and fade into the woodwork?

Charliehenry (Arsenal) 2 years ago

Well right now it looks likely that he will be heading back to Brazil which is a shame as when he joined city he was seen as the youngster who was almost guaranteed to become a world player of the year someday. His move to Man City was a real shock and has really affected his career. His choice to join City has wrecked his career massively but benefited City as he has attracted other players to join

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Great topic Charles. Here are my picks:

Kaka
Yes. Kaka was so talismatic in Milan and lifted the whole team in his shoulders. But now, what is he doing at Madrid? He doesn't even look like Kaka!Yes, of course, it wasn't his fault moving to Madrid. Maybe its too early to tell, so I hope Ricky proves me wrong!

Thierry Henry
Some may argue that he is still good at Barca, but all I want to say is that he is never the same player as he was used to be in the Arsenal outfit. He made football look so easy, and arguably one of th best strikers in the history of the Premiere League. He isn't the same now.

Michael Owen
Was a hero at Liverpool. Could have even turned into the world's greatest striker if he hadn't chose Madrid. He didn't find quality playing time in Madrid and was constantly criticized. Then followed his Newcastle switch and injury crisis. Now he must consider himself lucky to be a super-sub in Man Utd. A very big striker wasted by a bad move, i'd say

Yidarmy4lyf (Tottenham Hotspur) 2 years ago

Saying kaka sounds a bit biased to me, he's only just got there and he already ownd the midfield in la liga

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

A bit harsh I know.... But still he hasn't made any huge impact for the team like he did in Milan

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

No Kaka is a flop. Look at the team how they play with him.... And the difference when he isn't. For me, van der vart plays better in the system

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Poor Kaka....

Charliehenry (Arsenal) 2 years ago

Kaka really has made a bad choice but maybe he is happy that he is getting the games and will win trophies but I think he will never get player of the year again when you are next to the likes of Ronaldo, But early days

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

But it wasn't Kaka's decision. Berlusconi went mad after seeing hard cash

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Owen never really cared about liverpool. He even admitted he cared more for his international duty.

In portugal 2004. When rafa benitez got assighned, he pulled togethor carragher, gerrard and owen in the city and asked all of them to stay by thier rightfull team. What happend? Owen left.... For newcastle. Shows his loyalty and love for the club eh

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

True, I mean he supported Everton as a boy, Not Liverpool. He was never as dedicated to Liverpool as Gerrard or Carrahger

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

He was the loser anyway!

TheTorresBounce (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Owen left for Real Madrid then newcastle sergio

Rockerr (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Ricardo Quaresma
He was a star while playing for porto but after joining Inter he is never been the same. He has sick skills but is wasted at Inter. He could have easily became one of the best wingers in history.

Ryan Babel
Just like Quaresma, he should have become a star now. He was looking great at Ajax but in liverpool, he never played up to his potential. Though had a good debut season at livepool never played well in the next few seasons.

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Ha yes!Quaresma!Every time I see one of his old clips, I feel really bad. He is such a BIG talent.... Now wasted....

Charliehenry (Arsenal) 2 years ago

Hmm with babel I don't see him playing many games he said he is a striker so why is he not playing upfront with Torres? Liverpool's season hasnt gone well and having Babel still on the bench isn't going to give him much confidence it shows Rafa doesn't believe he can come on and change the game and Babel wants to make the world cup squad but its not looking good for him

Rockerr (Liverpool) 2 years ago

With both Torres and Gerrard injured, he may get a chance now!

Aeaglan (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Great topic!

Andriy Shevchenko:
He was one of the world's best strikers, the '04 Ballon d'Or winner led AC Milan in '03 to Champions League triumph & is currently the 4th highest goal scorer in the competition's history. He also played a vital role in the 2005 champions league campaign, taking Milan to the finals before losing to Liverpool.
Suddenly in '06 he jumps on a plane & moves to Chelsea for £30. 8M. Since then, he has never even came close to the form he had with Milan. Although he briefly returned to Milan last season on loan, he has little impact on the team. He is now back playing for Dynamo Kiev.... What a mistake he made moving to chelsea

Yidarmy4lyf (Tottenham Hotspur) 2 years ago

Damn I was guna say him

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Good ol' Sheva.... Yes.... Feel bad for him. Definitely one of the best striker in the world

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Preety much one of the Biggest hit and Misses of the century. Great player at milan. He pulled the team togethor. Excellent charisma in his play. But he just felt a bit home sick at Chelsea. Not having his usual 70+k fans I guess.

But seriousley, one of the best strikers in this century

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

He once said he moved to Chelsea only because of his family. Wish he had stayed at Milan.

Charliehenry (Arsenal) 2 years ago

Possibly the biggest flop EVER! Before he came to chelsea I considered him possibly the best in the world and then £30mil was top top money and he was a real let down he has never come close to being the same player

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

He did score a hat trick lol never knew a goal costed 10million pounds

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

Rich people these days...

Rzv36 (Real Madrid) 2 years ago

Samuel Eto'o was a prolific goalscorer at Barcelona (scored in 2 champions league finals)but he took a wrong way going to Inter....
Another bad move was Ronaldinho at Milan.... At the age of 28 he left Barcelona were he spent his best time of his career and I think if he stayed at Barca he could have been the best player in the history....

Adamaus (Manchester United) 2 years ago

Firstly with Eto'o where else did he have to go? Pretty muich no where and no going to Inter wasnt a terrible decision it doesn't suit his style as much but he didn't have alot of options.

Ronaldinho to Milan a bad decision? The reason he left barca is because they didn't want him anymore, he was in terribly bad form, form that some could argue he hasnt recovered from, and from what I remember hearing there wasnt alot of option for where he could go. I remember hearing City were interested and wanted to splash the cash for him. So he chose to go with a club that already had recent success. I think he made a pretty good choice when considering where he was and now where he has started to show some of his old self

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Both players you have mentioned were forced to leave the club. And yes, like Adamaus said, they have chosen the best possible clubs

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Why why why did they do the deal. Barca are nuts

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

Barca are outrageous. He just won the Champs League for the first time, top goal scorer, top everything. Went down in the history books, and how to they treat him? They sent him off to Milan, Not only that, but I think he's better than ibra. And they offered 40m PLUS Eto'o. This kinda treatment of players make me sick

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Eto'o-Ibra deal is plain useless deal and a BIG waste of good money. Ibra is no match to Eto'o while he was at Barca

Yidarmy4lyf (Tottenham Hotspur) 2 years ago

As a spurs fan i've gota go for bentley & pavyluchenko, granted they havent had too many chances but they has underperformed massively & seem to have lost a few years of they're carrers. Shame as bentley was a massive prospect for england(still could be if he gets out soon). Pavy was a panic buy to try & lure arshavin there, but turned out to be a dud.

Also I think veron when he was at united for the money he went for & also david nugent when he went to pompey

Blueskiesahead (Chelsea) 2 years ago

When pavlyuchenko has played, he really has impressed me. I find he is one of tottenham's best strikers. Just a shame he isn't played more

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Yeah, spurs has too many strikers. Sad that he is wasted there

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Paulo aint doing bad. Just hasn't got a chance to play. He aint exactly a favourite of the manager at the moment.

But he still bags goals for his country.... And good ones

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

Pavy probably be played more, but I don't think he's as good as Defoe, he could never take him out. As for Bently.... What you said

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

For me its Bloody Voronin....

Took the bundisliga by storm, forced rafa to turn away a 8 million pound bid by Hertha Berlin and what does he do? Misses sitters in the champions league.

Well good riddence to that ukranian rubbish

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Haha yes!When he returned to Anfield after his superb loan spell in Hertha, I seriously believed he is a very good striker and would definitely help Liverpool. Now I know what kind of player he is....

Thank God, Liverpool somehow got rid of him

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Oh why I believed in the same thing at the time. I remember at mid table I saw hertha belin at the top, and voronin the top striker. I was impressed and so I told all my friends how one of Rafa's Random buys were paying out....

Seems I had rubbish judgment all along haha

Charliehenry (Arsenal) 2 years ago

Sergio I think you were right I thought wow all Voronin needs is a couple games and he will get the goals after his time at Hertha, then came back and returned to the same he was and he was quite highly rated before he joined liverpool. I guess you guys seem to just pick the wrong guys sorry to say

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

No Offence Taken. Its a fact we have to live with. Rafa hasn't got the best scouting skills ill say. Players I thought that would make a big impact like leto, babel and ofcourse voronin):

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

Haha, Voronin sucks. Rafa deffo doesn't have the transfer skill of other managers. I think his only really great buy is Torres. This is the first time I can really see them giving him the Axe

Rockerr (Liverpool) 2 years ago

@manUK

fcorse Rafa isn't great in transfers but not that bad. It's him who brought xabi, reina, Benayoun, Mash, riera, Agger. So many great deals but also some poor deals

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

I think we only look at the negative at this poor time. If the injuries dissapeared and the players were influenced by the kop once more. You would think different

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

I know, but thy haven't. And I'm not the one saying Rafa should go. I'm just saying at this point I can see it happening

Bloodbrothers (Barcelona) 2 years ago

Torres when was playing in atleti, in spain before he went to liverpool a lot people consider him a average player, now he is one of the best

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

He was actually a good player there. He was just scared and intimidated as he was always refferd to as ' the kid '. When he arrived at liverpool, rafa gave him the confidence

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

I always wonder how he transformed Torres into a superstar. And the fact that he got El Nino for just 20 Million Euros sickens me. Wow!One of the best transfers ever!

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

It was pretty amazing. In one season he went from "the kid" to the worlds best. He's one striker any club would love to have. Including Man Utd

Charliehenry (Arsenal) 2 years ago

He did have a big reputation before as one of the best young players world wide but after his first season at Liverpool I think he is now seen as a world class player instead of youngster, he has kinda lost that label now. Its just a shame he keeps on picking up injuries

Bloodbrothers (Barcelona) 2 years ago

In atleti he was a promise he never won the pichichi in spain he noever scored more than 19 goals

Riggs (Manchester United) 2 years ago

All these players that went to madrid had their careers negatively impacted.

Anelka
Beckham
Owen
Van Nistelrooy
Robben
Huntelaar
Robinho
Makalele
Macmanaman

Many more I'm sure.

And one manager: carlos quieroz

Real madrid: where great players go to die

Rockerr (Liverpool) 2 years ago

"Real madrid: where great players go to die" I agree with that statement completely!

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

That's spot on!

MyRaJ (Barcelona) 2 years ago

I agree at this point, Real Madrid has ruined many good football players, sometimes do not like how to transfer players, if you buy something should use it not to keep him on the bench not to play, as he did with many good players...

Charliehenry (Arsenal) 2 years ago

I don't know what it is but even if you are a good player its not enough for madrid players seem to be in and out. Think you can add these also:
Wesley Sneijder
Rafael van der Vaart
Woodgate
Baptista
Thomas Gravesen

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Bayern are killers. What Happend to Podolski? I once Rated him over Torres. I honestly did D:

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

That's exactly What I've been saying!

Charliehenry (Arsenal) 2 years ago

I agree he has looked so good for Germany during his time at byern but then he couldn't even get a start for them. He was mistreated and had missed out on alot of playing time as he was probably Germany best player

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Same goes for Luca Toni. But now I'm glad to see him scoring goals and helping Roma

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Yeah. Two italians reunited. I'm sure he will extend the loan at the end. It looks likely

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

Curse Bayern D: At least he's with Roma, scoring goals. I bet that makes you happy Sergio

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Haha it does

Incuteration (Everton) 2 years ago

Owen went from a really good potential striker in Liverpool to a bullshit "impact" sub in Real Madrid. He rarely plays and rarely doesn't gets injured. I say Real Madrid ruined his life and wasted all his talents especially he was in his prime at that point of time

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

Haha who remembers owen over there.... Nobody. But he did get back on his feet.... More to the point alot of players have had downfalls over there. What happend to salgado, directly after sighning a contract he got kicked in the nuts by a servilla youngster. But honestly they aim to make big names of players but really they just lure them in and kick them out when another player is better and buyable...

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

Agreed, I mean look at Robinho now, He had tons of potential and nows he's.... Well that really is his fault

Pragathish (AC Milan) 2 years ago

Robinho to Mancherster City?
Sigh.... He has made a bad decision twice. First choosing Madrid, now choosing City over Chelsea

SergioRamos (Liverpool) 2 years ago

One Word : Lol

Charliehenry (Arsenal) 2 years ago

I wouldn't say that Madrid was a bad move it help him get a big reputation and he delivered at times at Madrid as for City that's clear to see he shouldn't have gone their but only he knows why he chose to leave Madrid.
Maybe Santos will be the next bad move in his career as he is taking a step back. Bad agent is what I say lol

ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago

Two Words: True! Lol