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Tree2 (Barcelona) 1 week ago
So what would you guys consider the biggest international rivalry in the british isles?

England- Rep Ireland?
Northern Ireland-Rep Ireland?
England -Scotland?
This question crossed my mind and I am really curious to know!
Juventusfc (Juventus) 1 week ago
I think it would be either England-Scotland and/or Northern Ireland-Republic of Ireland
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 1 week ago
Depends on who you ask. England has fierce (but respectful) rivalries with all of the home nations, due to our shared history.

England vs any of the other home nations is always eagerly anticipated in Rugby.

Not so much in football, though. In football it'll be the Irish "derby" or England v Scotland
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 1 week ago
I must say I think last night's game showed why Rooney is better suited as a striker than a #10.

Keeping Sterling as the tip of the midfield diamond ensured that our progression from midfield was much more dynamic on the counter.

This 4-4-2 diamond is still a work in progress and there are areas to address (I'm not convinced Wilshere works well at the base of the diamond) but I like that we can have two strikers deployed further up the field.

------------Back Four

Sturridge/Walcott/Ox/Welbeck/Lambert/ and more can rotate in and out.

The core of this team can stick together for the next 5 years and still be in their mid-late twenties. I think now is definitely the time to be experimenting with this formation since we have a relatively easy qualification group. If we can iron out some of the wrinkles by 2016 we might just avoid embarrassing ourselves in the KO stages!
Kayteo (Manchester United) 1 week ago
Not bad! Play to the strengths!
Kayteo (Manchester United) 2 weeks ago
With AOC and sterling as direct, dribbling wingers, a pair of overlapping fullbacks, a handy midfield pair and two athletic centrebacks there is the beginnings of a half-decent team here.

But I am not convinced hogdson is the man to get the best out of a young, ballplaying side. This england side could be making triangles and creating overlaps in the channels but instead they look lost and frankly bored out there
Fadinho89 (Arsenal) 1 week ago
Once walcott is fit, I'm telling you, sturridge, sterling and walcott makes a very fast direct front 3.

This would be the attacking force.

Drde159 (Manchester United) 2 weeks ago
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 1 week ago
It's funny because it's true
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 2 weeks ago
Paul Merson believes the England team should be built around Sterling

RedFace (Manchester United) 1 week ago
I believe the England team should be built without Hodgson
ScouserDan (Liverpool) 1 week ago
I can agree with that ^
Theatreofdream (Manchester United) 2 weeks ago
Roy hodgson is a clown.... Wondering if he still has a dick 'cause he definitely got no shame at all still wanting to coach the team after a shambolic performance.... He's on par with moyes
FromRaaange (Chelsea) 2 weeks ago
Sickened that Rooney was made captain
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 3 weeks ago
Hodgson's new-look squad....

Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster (Southampton), Ben Foster (West Bromwich Albion), Joe Hart (Manchester City)

Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Calum Chambers (Arsenal), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Danny Rose (Tottenham Hotspur), John Stones (Everton)

Midfielders: Jack Colback (Newcastle United), Fabian Delph (Aston Villa), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), James Milner (Manchester City), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal) Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Andros Townsend (Tottenham Hotspur), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)

Forwards: Rickie Lambert (Liverpool), Wayne Rooney [C] (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Danny Welbeck (Arsenal)
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 3 weeks ago
I copied and pasted from the BBC and I don't see Glen Johnson in there.... Doth mine eyes deceive me !?!?

There is a lot more youth in midfield which excites me. I expect we'll continue to line up like this:



2nd string doesn't strike fear into the hearts of opponents but that is the hand we've been dealt...
YungGunner (Arsenal) 2 weeks ago
Danny Welbeck is Arsenal, not Manchester United.
Chanman (Bayern München) 2 weeks ago
1st string doesn't strike fear in to opponents either
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 2 weeks ago
Cheers YungGunner, when I posted this 6 days ago he was still at Utd
RedFace (Manchester United) 1 month ago
Gerrards made the right decision!
Jamesutd (Manchester United) 2 months ago
Wonderful news guys, england will definitely win euro 2016 and wc 2018

SoccerIsFootbal (Manchester United) 2 months ago
Just wanted to give credit to howard webb, who risked his life calling that handball on hulk lol
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 2 months ago
Still trying to work out what Fergie possibly could have gained by making that call
Troubletonight (Arsenal) 2 months ago
Why are people throwing the blame at Hodgson? Can people not see that a lot of the England players are just not up to scratch to compete at World Cup level? If Hodgson is only given a Nokia 3310, how do you expect him to do video calls?
CHELSEA61 (Chelsea) 2 months ago
What has he won? What is he good at? Where has he succeeded? At most jobs you have to be the best candidate to be the boss
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 2 months ago
@Chelsea61 - we have a saying in England; "you can't polish a turd"

I don't think it matters who you appoint for the England job, the players are just not as good as their international competition.

I can't think a single English player who would make the starting XI for Germany/Spain/France/Netherlands etc

Roy's training methods cannot be blamed for the fact that the players have poor control and couldn't pass a ball to the feet of their team-mates 20ft away.

The game is simple and we can't even do the basics right
Kayteo (Manchester United) 2 months ago
Hodgson's not exactly top of the line either.

Take a look at some of the other managers and they have done wonders with limited resources. Costa rica won the group, after all, and none of their players would feature in italy's team, would they?
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 2 months ago
No they wouldn't, Kayteo, however the Costa Ricans can do the basics right.

The English players couldn't string five accurate passes together. They were all under-hit, over-hit or just so far from their teammates that the players had to run/stretch just to get the ball.

One could make the argument that Hodgson would have fared better as a manager for a team that could pass a ball properly
Kayteo (Manchester United) 2 months ago
Agreed Deffy, but those same players do okay for their clubs - unless you practice those basic skills (and other things, like penalties) you can't expect much.

I do think it's 50-50. I'm not saying hodgson should leave, but I don't know if he's the right coach to move the team forward.

English coaches are poor in general
Moe66 (Manchester City) 2 months ago
Its a combination of both really. They failed to do teh basics and the management was off. Their was not a lot of confidence from England coming into the games they showed fear a number of times and panicked when it came to their MF and DF. Roy isn't the best manager in the world. England need a better manager who has an actually plan and give the confidence they need. The best managers pick the best possible players and the best possible formation and really understanding all your players inside and out, being able to get the best out of them. Roy doesn't.

I do like the attacking emphasis he put into the game against Italy and it worked put you can just focus on one area you have to cover all your sides and the defence was just awful. Johnson could barely make a decent pass, Jagi/Cahill looked lost a number of times and Baines was out of position and had no cover from Rooney when he overlapped forcing him to cover more distance and his gas was out and done in the middle of the second half.

All in all I don't think his the man for the job and the longer you keep him the longer England wouldn't be heading anywhere and will be stuck in the same position. England needs a manager, a world class manager who can lead this team towards the right direction with a plan because they truly do have so many young talented players but they wouldn't succeed with Roy around in international football
CHELSEA61 (Chelsea) 2 months ago
Please sack Roy immediately! It's clear after Euro2012 and Brazil2014 that he hasn't the stones to command a team of talented yet overhyped high payed Englishmen. The English mens national team is in shambles. First time out of the tournament in the group stage since 1958. They don't need an Englishman running the team, they need the best man available. The only other pre-requisite should be that he speaks English. The hefty salary should attract a fair amount of interested parties. I'd be happier with Giggs as the Manager. He couldn't do any worse
SoccerIsFootbal (Manchester United) 2 months ago
England have undeniably played a lot better in this tournament compared to euro 2012. To judge roy on that tourney also wouldn't be fair, as he took over from capello right before the tournament.

To be fair, this time around, england missed a fair amount of chances, and they came in with a weak defence.

I think the main issue was a lot of the players they relied on to make the difference were not in the team even 3 months ago. There was shifting, players out of position, confusion etc. You need a settled team, settled role players etc. I think england have a good coaching (neville, etc) and supporting staff set up, good young players, etc. Now they need a strong philosophy, a plan/vision they can implement, and some luck that their potential stars develop into established stars. Roy may not be the best visionary manager but I think he's assembled a good supporting staff and he's got good players.

Euro 2016 will be a lot better than these past two tournaments so long as these youngsters keep getting picked, build some chemistry and experience, and start taking their chances. The only real concern for england is central midfield, I think they will have real quality attacking and defensive options 2 years down the road as these young players continue to get experience in the premier league and in europe.

My one big disappointment, asside from him not trusting rooney to play his game in the #10 role (sterling and barkley didn't not produce the goods when it mattered), was that he picked all these liverpool players yet did not play liverpool's style (tactical shape and style of play). Look at germany, adopting bayern's style because so many of their players would be comfortable in that system since they play for FCB. Or look at the netherlands, with LVG playing the 3-5-2 system because it would suit his young defenders, who are all from feyenoord and play that system for their club. I think a truly top manager should evolve tactics to suit his best players.

A diamond midfield of

Would have made use of the young players and probably made best use of liverpool players and rodger's system
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 2 months ago
SIF, I couldn't agree more - you have to play the formation that suits your players rather than try to fit players into your chosen formation.

I actually don't think Rooney makes a particularly great #10, so I would have tried to fit him into a formation that utilises him as true striker.

A 4-3-3 with Rooney/Sturridge rotating as the main spearhead would have suited us better. We also missed some real pace and good delivery out wide - a fit Walcott/Chamberlain would have been ideal for a 4-3-3, IMO
SKool (Arsenal) 3 months ago
Chelsea4lyphe (Chelsea) 3 months ago
A glimpse of boarding the plane home
Pewpew (Liverpool) 3 months ago

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