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Jeroen (Barcelona) Yesterday
Watzke said no more new signings will be unveiled this summer; so the rumours of us signing Mario Gómez seem to be untrue. Good; we have plenty of players, but I do feel the striker position could've used a great backup like him
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) Yesterday
I think we're fine with Adrian Ramos. I kinda started to like the guy after he started scoring
Jeroen (Barcelona) Yesterday
Haha, what a coincidence!

I liked Ramos way before it was cool though I remember he destroyed us in 2012 (perhaps a bit sooner or later) with Hertha and I was impressed what kind of total striker he was. Turns out I was watching him at his very best, his technique isn't fantastic, but I still think he is underrated
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) Yesterday
Also, do you think Pulisic will be sent on loan this season? I mean, Reus and Schurrle are our first-choice wingers, and even without them you've got another pair in Mor and Dembele.

He must be a little bit disappointed to see us signing so much wingers after he had a decent debut season(especially for a 17 year-old)
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) Yesterday
Jeroen (Barcelona) Yesterday
I have no idea TBH. He's too young for a loan to be a must. Personally, if I were Tuchel, I'd sit with him and ask him what he wants himself by telling him the truth: being happy with his progress last season as the coach, but not being able to promise him a lot of playing time this time around.

I would like to see him at Mainz one season
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) Yesterday
"Personally, if I were Tuchel, I'd sit with him and ask him what he wants himself by telling him the truth: being happy with his progress last season as the coach, but not being able to promise him a lot of playing time this time around. ".... #JeroenforBVBCoach (after Tuchel leaves)

On a more serious note though, yeah, I think he could do great in Mainz(or any not-top-seven Bundesliga club for that matter). I think he should be loaned if Tuchel has no plans to play him in more than 2 matches this season. Damn Wolfsburg, why did you sell Schurrle...
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 2 days ago
What do you guys think of Ginter? I mean, our RB position is filled, our DM position is filled and our CB position is also filled.

I wonder how will Tuchel play him (maybe rotating with Bartra/Sokratis but then there is also Bender there....). I hope we don't sell him because he's talented and has many years ahead of him
Jeroen (Barcelona) Yesterday
Selling Ginter would be madness; he was one of the best performers last season, and that too in a variety of positions.

I don't know why he wouldn't start ahead of any of our others CBs in the RCB positions. Subo has been out of it for so long in the past years and I think Ginter is better than anyone else in the team in that position now. And who's to say he won't be playing as a RB often? No guarantees Lukasz will always be fit and Durm isn't quite as good as Ginter IMHO either.

RB: Piszczek>Ginter>Durm>rest
CB: Subo>Ginter>Sok>Bartra>rest

Plenty of times Matthias will get the chance to start games I think; knowing our injury prone squad
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) Yesterday
I think playing Ginter on RB kinda leaves us very weak on the right side. Note that we now won't have Mikhi who was THE ever-reliable winger when defending. And not to mention that playing Ginter on RB vs stronger teams like Leverkusen, Bayern and the European teams = suicide. I know, he's great when attacking but he's too slow for a RB IMO.

On the CB position, the problem is that you also have Bender, who signed until 2021. Now, I don't think he would sign knowing he's 4th choice. Also you have Bartra who comes from Barcelona because of lack of playing time. Also you have Sokratis who is very solid. And I don't rate Ginter really highly on CB....

But yeah, Ginter will probably get lots of playing time because of injuries.

Jeroen (Barcelona) Yesterday
Well, let's see what Tuchel has in store for us. Bartra might be the first choice along with Ginter, who knows? Youth first?
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) Yesterday
We'll certainly have to wait, but I can't do so without overthinking the possiblities before

Though, I think it might be Sock-Bartra partnership, with Ginter and Bender occasionally rotating with them(before important matches, vs weaker opponents, DFB Pokal etc.)

OddSpud (Borussia Dortmund) 3 days ago
Well chosen mhiki.... Pffff  
Jeroen (Barcelona) 3 days ago
Lol. At least he scored. But yeah, we are definitely the better team, for now. Doesn't mean a player can't try to join to the club of his dreams. United is still a more prestigious club, but their current state as a team is poor.

I can't imagine them not becoming a lot stronger quickly though. Look at all the players they're hauling in. Typical Mourinho: spend a few hundred million, win a title or two over the course of a few years
SoccerIsFootbal (Manchester United) 3 days ago
Dembele and mor looked good, will be keen to watch their development over the seasons. Smart to get gotze and shurrle to shield some of the young forwards, give them space to grow. I think your squad looks stronger in attack this season despite losing mkhi and gundogan but I suppose time will tell
OddSpud (Borussia Dortmund) 3 days ago
If only football was about how good your club is at present time and not about how good another club was in its past
SoccerIsFootbal (Manchester United) 2 days ago
Relax guys, as I recall you lost 4-0 to liverpool last pre-season. It's just a friendly
UWMike (Borussia Dortmund) 2 days ago
^ That was 2 pre-seasons ago.... And we all know how the rest of that season went.    -_-    
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 2 days ago
That was two seasons ago. And we all know how that went....

It is indeed just a friendly, but you can't deny that one can draw positives and negatives from such a match(other than fitness).

I, for one, have been totally amazed by Dembele and Mor and this match totally solidified my confidence in them. They're gonna' be a smashing hit. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Schurrle became second fiddle to Dembele.

Also, I've been really skeptic about signing Rode and I'm not gonna' scream all of a sudden "he's THE NEW iniesta" or something but my view of him improved (even though he was playing against not very fit players, yeah, I know).

Also, Bartra looked solid and Weidenfeller didn't make a horrific blunder(that surprised me).

On the other side, Depay is proving to be a signing worth every single pound of the 5 million spent on him. The rest 20 were a waste of money

KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 2 days ago
UWMike (Borussia Dortmund) 2 days ago
Yea, not sure we needed both Gotze AND Schurrle....

A midfield of Reus - Kagawa - Gotze, rotating with Dembele, Mor, Pulisic, and Castro? That sounds plenty deep to me.

I'm more concerned about the holding midfield roles. Weigl and? Sahin? Bender (I'm convinced that Tuchel wants him at CB for some reason)? Maybe Ginter? Are we hoping that Merino just walks into that spot? That central-defensive part of the park is a big question mark for me.
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 2 days ago
Man, we've made so much signings that we slowly start forgetting them....  Rode
UWMike (Borussia Dortmund) 2 days ago
:$    Dammit. You got me
SKool (Arsenal) 3 days ago
Aliko (Barcelona) 3 days ago
I know that many fans are just pissed off with Götze but the good thing is: he is back!
Hope he can flourish again under Tuchel. BVB will rock next season!
Jeroen (Barcelona) 3 days ago
I don't think a lot of fans are really angry he's back, more like in doubt what to expect. And of course it tears open an old woubd, but perhaps so it can heal properly
Jeroen (Barcelona) 3 days ago
What if Götze was just holding back the whole time at Bayern, spying for us, adding strong laxatives to the Bayern players' food all the time to keep them 'injured'? And now he's back, with a €12m net profit.

Welcome back, traitor. You better redeem yourself.

Best thing about him is that Reus will be happier and eager to stay
Kazuki (Liverpool) 3 days ago
So.... Is this like getting back with your ex. Who left for a rich guy?
Jeroen (Barcelona) 3 days ago
Your ex of whom you always thought she was the one, who made you a better person and vice versa. And then she left you for that arrogant rich guy all girls want for some reason, who then ditched her in turn because there was zero chemistry between them
Fabiusmaximus (Bayern München) 4 days ago
Got a nice team there fellas, eh?  Can't wait for the season to begin
Jeroen (Barcelona) 3 days ago
I just hope the players 'click' and we'll be spared of countless injuries.

Also, when will you guys sell Hummels to us again? They all return one day, you know
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 3 days ago
Not before he scores in our first clash of course (They all score, you know)
Chellen (Arsenal) 4 days ago
Gotze is a done deal.... Happy you snatch him.... Yes I understand he is considered as a "Judas" but he return, so the best thing for your club and player you will need to support him in order for him to regain his top form, and to make that transfer not a waste.... Then imagine if he can score in a champions league Final and with his assist or goal he can make your beloved team to win that champions league Cup, would you say no because he is a judas or yes? So hope your team continue to progress with those signings!Cheers
Obskurum (Borussia Dortmund) 4 days ago
Kicker reports that the Götze deal is already done. We will pay Bayern 26M for him. Schürrle is still on negotiation. I think Schürrle could be work at BVB, because Tuchel had already make him explode at Mainz. He is the perfect coach to get the best of Schürrle. Another fact that could help for his fast adaptation and explosion at BVB is his close friendship with Götze and Reus. If I where Schürrle, I would be amazingly excited to start to play for the best club in the world trained by the coach who made me a Bundesliga Star and together with my best two friends
Obskurum (Borussia Dortmund) 4 days ago
I know a lot of BVB fans don't want a Judas like Götze at BVB again (I include myself), but we must accept it and try to deal with it. He's still young and he can bring the team a lot of quality if he recovers his old form. I want to know how it will be when he scores his first goal in front of the Südtribüne. Will there be woos or boos?
Deffyduck (Arsenal) 4 days ago
It is a weird situation for player and fans alike. If he regains his old form and starts assisting and scoring like a machine, I think any fan can be won over eventually.

Gonzaga101 (Borussia Dortmund) 4 days ago
I was one that wanted his return. I don't think he will gain his old form (at least not right away) but his play will speak louder than words ever will
Kayslay (Manchester United) 4 days ago
They did an honourable thing to take him back after his dishonour in leaving.

He doesn't deserve it for me, but if he plays well and helps the club up all can be forgotten.

Also, How does the buy back price compare to the amount Bayern took him with.

Didn't he leave on the cheap?
OddSpud (Borussia Dortmund) 4 days ago
He was sold for €38 (clause). Bought back for €26 I think
SKool (Arsenal) 4 days ago
Schürrle will deffo boost the team up. Also with gotze coming back too
Goonerfan13 (Arsenal) 5 days ago
Well this will be an interesting season.... Cannot believe we are spending the money like this on Götze AND Shurrle....

Götze has already shown his loyalty(sarcasm) before and Shurrle has never really impressed me at any clubs he's been at. Has one solid game then goes on a vacation for a month and repeats cycle. This is solely a marketing scheme imo.

I am a fan of all the young lads coming in prior to these inconsistent and unwanted bastards.
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 5 days ago
The Gotze deal is good. Schurrle.... Not so.

"I am a fan of all the young lads coming in prior to these inconsistent and unwanted bastards. "

Right, because if we are going to win a Bundesliga/DFB Pokal/get far in champions league, we can do so with a couple of 18-year-olds leading our attack. Right.

Also, Kagawa is a very consistent player who has been present in every match past season, so NOT AT ALL do we need Gotze. Because we can always rely on Kagawa

Though, let's just buy Gotze and keep Kuba. It's best that way
Goonerfan13 (Arsenal) 5 days ago
I more-less was referring to the transfer fee and the wages that they will probably receive could have been spent elsewhere.

I do agree that if we are going for titles we DO need more depth than just teenagers, but bringing in players that already warmed the bench at champions league teams last year does not sound like it is improving our squad too much for the kind of money we are dropping on them. Both of these players combined only started 32 games and both hardly played the entire 90min when they actually did get the starting nod.

To me, financially, there had to be better options. That is why I think it is a marketing scheme
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 5 days ago
"I more-less was referring to the transfer fee and the wages that they will probably receive could have been spent elsewhere. " You think they can be spent on players such as....

Again, I'll repeat myself, I'd hate it if we splash 30 mil. Euros on freaking Schurrle, but I'm totally convinced Gotze is the best deal for us.

Try finding a player who actually HAD great chemistry with the players we have now, one that won't (probably....) f*ck us now with a buy-out clause, one that has many years ahead of him(he's 24 years old), one who has already played at a world-class level and can play again. Then try signing such a player for 27 mil. Euros.

Goonerfan13 (Arsenal) 5 days ago
Rather go for the f**k it approach and go for Leroy Sané
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 5 days ago
Should I remind you of the words Schalke, Manchester City and Bayern Munich?
UWMike (Borussia Dortmund) 2 days ago
What's Sané's price tag? 50m? .... Yea, that's smart money    /sarcasm
DortmunderJung (Borussia Dortmund) 1 week ago
Looks like götze is returning....  
Fabiusmaximus (Bayern München) 1 week ago
Will there be boos or woos?
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 1 week ago
Both, I guess

Few months ago I was kinda.... Negative about this deal's possibility to happen but the situation has changed. There are few important points to note:

1. Andre Schurrle. If Gotze's return is gonna' stop that guy coming (and as per Kicker, it may not! Wtf) just get Gotze immediately. Just get anyone ffs. Schurrle is not the right guy for us.

2. Mkhitaryan. He left and we need a replacement for him, and even though Gotze isn't a like-for-like replacement to Mikhi, he'll do. Also, Gotze being a replacement to his replacement is damn weird.

3. I'd also really like to see him back with his head down, because even if not literally said by him, it'll be his confirmation that he made a huge mistake by leaving BVB.

A decent number of fans will be upset but I think(hope*) they'll forgive him after a short while
OddSpud (Borussia Dortmund) 1 week ago
I'm no Schurrle fan. Not at all. Certainly not as Mikhi's replacement. But I do remember him having at least one good game in the final of the world cup (assisted Götze) so it means he can't be all that bad, or was that performance rare?
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 1 week ago
The problem is not whether he's not all that bad or good or whatever. The problem is whether he suits us.

It's kinda like Immobile. He is a good player but he just didn't fit AT ALL in our system.

So, even with all the "Tuchel made Mikhi play great, he can do it with Schurrle" falls in the water because Schurrle simply, unlike Mikhi, won't suit us in the first place. He just isn't the player we need. Those are just my two cents though, and Tuchel certainly knows better than me
But still, just get Gotze and let go of the Schurrle deal.

Also, there are rumours we are also going for Moussa Sissoko. Why? We are totally stacked in our midfield, and going for a better-than-average 27-year old? (probably just rumours though - atleast I hope)
UWMike (Borussia Dortmund) 1 week ago
Well.... I suppose we could have done worse
Cloudst (Footytube Mod) 1 week ago
So you guys are getting Schurrle?
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 1 week ago
I hope not
Jeroen (Barcelona) 2 weeks ago
BVB of the future! All players are 25 or younger. Average age is exactly 22 why. Oh.

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Looking good; we just need to fill in that? With a Lewandowski Jr. Or maybe Eberwein is our new Hummels, a Bayern reject becoming a world class player?
Alternatively, we could try to get Luciano Vietto from Atlético, since he's out of favour there. He was amazing in the 2014-2015 season
Niru 1 week ago
.... Where's Reus?    Edit: nvm, didn't catch the "of the future" part.
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 1 week ago
Jeroen probably assumed that by the time this squad would be our first-choice one, Reus would probably be gone to Bayern
UWMike (Borussia Dortmund) 1 week ago
Nah, those assholes would take Weigl before they took Reus
Jeroen (Barcelona) 1 week ago
What do you guys think about Vietto though? I would be thrilled if we could get him. He's class and would bring us skill, pace and goal-scoring efficiency up front
DortmunderJung (Borussia Dortmund) 1 week ago
Vietto would be a dream! We need a decent striker, then we're going to win trophies. Auba is is way to wastefull. He was only scoring because of his speed and strong teammates last season. He had the chances to score 35-40 goals in bundesliga.

Don't say we need to sell him, but another class option is necessary!
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 1 week ago
Vietto.... Haven't seen him play but I've heard good things about him. If he has half the pace Auba has and doesn't miss 50 sitters per season as Auba does, he'll do great
Iscodisco (Real Madrid) 2 weeks ago
Guerrero is going to be a golden player for Dortmund. Was pretty solid in the Euros.

Looking forward to seeing your team next season. Should be exciting
Gonzaga101 (Borussia Dortmund) 2 weeks ago
I am also looking forward to him as well. I feel bvb did a great job with this lad, if we was to sign after the Euros his price would have doubled
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 2 weeks ago
Yeah. I'm 100% sure he's a great signing, and that's a thing I can't say about our other signings this summer
Jeroen (Barcelona) 2 weeks ago
Yup, Guerreiro is amazing! It's unfortunate Bayern bought that other top talent though. Renato Sanches played the way I expected Pogba to play this EC. Biggest talent I've seen since Götze at such a young age.

I wonder if he'll get enough playing time at Bayern though. Should've gone to Dortmund to make a legendary partnership with Weigl and Guerreiro
Jeroen (Barcelona) 2 weeks ago
Yeah yeah, we lost Micki, Ilkay and, far worse IMO, Mats.

But we have Raphaël Guerreiro, Emre Mor, Ousmane Dembele, Sebastian Rode and Marc Bartra now!

On top of that, the three sold players were about €100m in total extra revenue and lots of high wages gone. All incoming transfers were only about half of the value of the outgoing transfers, so I fully expect more to come.

We'll be fine
KristijanT (Borussia Dortmund) 2 weeks ago
It can also be perceived like this:

" Yeah yeah, we lost 2 world-class players and, far worse IMO, our captain.

But we have unproven youngsters, a-bit-better-than-average players and third-squad Bayern players now!

On top of that, the three sold world-class players were about 100m euros in total extra revenue and lots of high wages gone.
All incoming transfers were only about half of the value of the outgoing transfers, so I fully expect more to come, even though we're so f*cking stacked in all positions that I don't know anymore how would Tuchel convince someone to come(hey man, we have 5 players on your position, but don't worry, I'll cook sausages for you).

We'll be fine "

Seriously though, I think we'll be fine, yes, but we'll play worse than last season.

Not to say that we won't have serious chances to win a trophy -- Bayern may be struggling to click a bit now that they have a new coach, and the Boateng-Hummels definitely does (as a Dortmund fan) fill me with hope - they're both very error-prone

Edit: Btw, you forgot to mention Mikel Merino. Not that he's a very known player though
Jeroen (Barcelona) 2 weeks ago
Lol, I'm taking the glass-is-half-full approach

The truth is that we are not a club like the most prestigious clubs in the world: Barça, Bayern, Real, United. The best players of all other clubs probably dreamed of playing for one of those when they were kids, and it's hard to keep them from ever going there once they get the chance.

The good news is Kloppo & everyone else of the staff and our (former) players made Dortmund much more attractive than it was a few years ago. Top talent like the kids we've bought now (I especially like Guerreiro) usually hardly knew BVB. Now they can become our next stars, who might stay long enough for us to win the BuLi again. Perhaps even the champions league?

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