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What's Your Take On Religion?
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Bring it on people. I wanna hear what you think about the Creator of the heavens and the earth. I wanna know what you think about the dude that created me, Todieisgain, Ronaldo7, ServinmySavior, ManUK, TheRonaldo7, Moonpig, Ragarsha, Lee, MainEvent, and all the other people on this site (sorry if I didn't name you, I don't have time for everyone. Don't worry about it though, Jesus loves YOU) and the whole world. Bring on the disdain and arguements people. The question is why aren't you saved. You know your gonna' go to Hell if your not. (I'm probably gonna' get banned for didsurbing the peace, but I hope it will make it through the staff.)
Syraph (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Aww great, a religious fanatic...
TheRonaldo7 (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
LOL.... Aw.... Bless! LOL!
ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago
Bessed are the meak
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Ya man its the freedom of expression a God given right to glorify him
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Can anybody give me one other good reason your on this planet
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Not evolution, brotha. Evolution is incredibly wrong and faulty
Syraph (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Why must there be a "good reason" to live?
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
I give complete glory to GOD for every goal I score, MVP award I win, and game I play. He is the reason I'm on this planet, and the only reason life's worth livin
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
What a weird forum but ok
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Heaven and Hell are not weird they are realities
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
I just find it hard to believe their is another life after this one! Where are the signs?
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
The signs are partially in man's gut feeling. Read this whole page if honestly interested
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Why do we have a conscience, if theres no after life why worry about what we do in life
TheRonaldo7 (Real Madrid) 2 years ago


*Puts on heavy gypsie voice*

Woooahhh.... Dude.... That's like.... Waaaaayyyy deeeep man.... Like Tooootaaallly!
ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago
Deeeepp Wayy dowwn there man seeeriously
Hill (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Haha is that what you call stoners? Gypsies?
Tom (Manchester United) 2 years ago
The only religion I follow is football
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
That's great but wherever you go your not goin to be playin futbol  
Tom (Manchester United) 2 years ago
So your saying theres no football in heaven? Well to hell with that
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Ha well not for you if all you follow is futbol  
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Heaven will be to glorious to worry about football. Soccer is great and all, but Hell is forever. There is no purgatory where you can make it back to heaven. Eternal darkness, flesh always on fire, and your alone. Heaven sounds better
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
AMEN  
Tom (Manchester United) 2 years ago
Well heaven sounds way too serious i'll take my chances elsewhere  
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Good luck
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Are you sayin the only reason you were created was to kick a soccer ball around?  That stinks
Tom (Manchester United) 2 years ago
Well there was no reason it was all chance
StrikersMT28 (Seattle Sounders) 2 years ago
Agreed 100%. I'm not religous, as in I don't believe in A sinlge god. I do kind of believe in Confucious and his sayings about things to strive for in life
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
What kind of chance? Where will we go after death?
Tom (Manchester United) 2 years ago
We will get buried and rot in the ground
StrikersMT28 (Seattle Sounders) 2 years ago
No, but yes we'll get buried, but I meant that football is my religion
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Why? What happens when everything ends? People are always scared of the end of the world. Do you mean people are just paranoid and there is no end?
Tom (Manchester United) 2 years ago
When everything ends then its over
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
That's pretty depressing
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Then why does man always make movies and myths and legends about the end? Man has a gut idea about an afterlife. Think about. Is your heart hardened to my questions? Or are you sincere in your answers?
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
So whats the difference between us and animals  
Tom (Manchester United) 2 years ago
So your saying bc ppl make movies about it then it exists? That's a bad argument
Tom (Manchester United) 2 years ago
I'm no zooligist so go ask 1 of those what the difference is
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
You're sayin there is none
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
We are not talking about creation Todieisgain. We are talking about the afta life
Hill (Arsenal) 2 years ago
My personal hell will be watching the Man UTD vs Arsenal 2nd leg champions league 2009 over and over and over again
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Is this toliveischrist a priest or something
Tom (Manchester United) 2 years ago
More like a grand inquisitor haha
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
I'm actually an ambassador for Christ
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Ok.... .... I got it
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Do you?
TheRonaldo7 (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
LOL!....    Where is the Pope when you need him!
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Todieisgain and Ronaldo94 are too
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Ronaldo94 a priest! Sadly I don't think so
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Yes! Ronaldo94 goes to my church
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Well who is he?
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
He is under your friend list
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Hmm ok ill look
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Is Ronaldo94 under your friend list?
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Yes
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
I aint no priest either I'm a saint sanctified for my savior, and I aint gonna' rot I'm goin to be worshiping my lord forever
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
People always say, "Jesus ain't coming back. " Well, hear this. The Bible says that the Lord will come as a thief in the night, at an hour when the world is not aware. And he is a thief coming to take the redeemed. Hell on earth will be opened as a second and final chance to those in rebellion. Don't be fooled. After all the christians are taken to heaven, hell on earth occurs for 7 years, and then the judgement
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
I don't read the bible and do you believe it?
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Yes it is The Truth. Did you know the Bible has never been proven false and some religious documents (the Koran for example) reference the Bible as a good book?
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Well youd hope it was a good book if half the world worship it  
StrikersMT28 (Seattle Sounders) 2 years ago
And Rastafari has never been proven wrong
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Rastafari denies the love of all people. Isn't that racist?
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
StrikersMt28, do you believe in Rastafari?
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Rastafari fulfilled no prophecy, he just showed up, Jesus had 2000 years of prophecy to back him up
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
To answer back to StrikersMT28, the Bible has been proven right constantly
Lee (Kidderminster Harriers) 2 years ago
“You believe the world's 12 thousand years old? "

"That's right. "

"Okay I got one word to ask you, a one word question, ready? "

"Uh huh. "

"Dinosaurs....

You know the world's 12 thousand years old and you know that dinosaurs existed, so you think they existed in that time. Well, you'd think it would have been mentioned in the f*****g Bible at some point. 'And lo Jesus and the disciples walked to Nazareth. But the trail was blocked by a giant brontosaurus.... With a splinter in his paw. And oh the disciples did run a shriekin': 'What a big f*****g lizard, Lord!' But Jesus was unafraid and he took the splinter from the brontosaurus's paw and the big lizard became his friend'”

- Bill Hicks
Vlad (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Well er, not that I'm defending the believers, but as I mentioned earlier (and have now confirmed through wikipedia), dinos went extinct 65 million years ago. Certainly had they been alive and kicking 12 thousand years ago, we'd all be worshipping t-rex today. Sorry, I mean T-rex
Ben (Arsenal) 2 years ago
"Religion easily has the best bullshit story of all time. Think about it. Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money. "

George Carlin (one of the all time greats along with Bill Hicks)
TheRonaldo7 (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Damn this s**t is disturbing the love of these forums.... But hey this is good s**t!    
ManUK (Manchester United) 2 years ago
Good S**t haha
Blaak (Manchester United) 2 years ago
Actually dinosaurs were mentioned in the bible Job 40:15-24 mentions behemoth and Job 41:1-34 mentions leviathan
Vlad (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Does it mention footytube though?
Match (Manchester United) 2 years ago
Bible thumpers make me lol. They preach like the storybook says and I'm like, "yo dawg, pics or it didn't happen. " yes I'm agnostic and yes I think logically.
Funny story! I went to my bro's bible study cause he's into that garbage and I destroyed the session within 5mins of it starting with a single question. It gave the simple minds in attendance a headache and the pastor or whatever was visibly upset. LOLz
Charlie (Barcelona) 2 years ago
Aw that's kinda mean, but fair I guess. Most the people in that room either have not read the bible past the front cover, or if they have don't understand it
Blaak (Manchester United) 2 years ago
What question did you ask?
Ellada10 (Olympiakos Piraeus) 2 years ago
Greek Orthodox all the way! It's the best and we all know it
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
Because your greek or cause you follow Greek Orthodox?
Ellada10 (Olympiakos Piraeus) 2 years ago
Because I'm greek, and just to let you know greeks are the best (no offense to non-greeks out there but your missing out)
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
I don't care what religion as long as I go to a happy place  
Ellada10 (Olympiakos Piraeus) 2 years ago
True, if you go to a happy place your good for eternity
VanPersie (Arsenal) 2 years ago
I want to stay on earth its happy here
Toliveischrist (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
I'm glad you people are at least arguing it out with me. Thank you
Agspiratos (Panathinaikos Athens) 2 years ago
Taso doesn't know what he's talking about but allow me to explain. Greek orthodox is and has been the least changed religion since the idea of religion. It has been proven to be most like it's original state. However, everyone has the right and can believe in whatever god(s) or idea they want. I feel that this subject may be a little too serious for the site and this is all I'm going to say. But I do respect all religions and ideas on the site so don't stop posting because of me
Hybr1dGunn3r (Arsenal) 2 years ago
I'm sorry, are you asking for everyone's opinions on religion?
Lee (Kidderminster Harriers) 2 years ago
We are living in a computer simulation:


Link: www.simulation-argument.com/

Abstract. This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed.

Either that, or Obama is the 2nd coming....
Adamaus (Manchester United) 2 years ago
Yes Lee.... And my friend Neo is the chosen one :/ pretty sure this isn't a computer simulation
Lee (Kidderminster Harriers) 2 years ago
You say that, but 100 years ago, people were 'pretty sure' we couldn't ever walk on the moon. And prior to that. People were 'pretty sure' the world was flat. And only half a century ago, people would never have conceived of the idea of watching a football match Live, on a tv with only millseconds of a delay. Or picking up a mobile phone and talking to someone on the other side of the world....

The theory is simply that if we believe that we can ever get to a state of technological advancement that would see re-creations of our world inside a computer simulation (through the use of advanced AI), then we must actually be in a simulation right now, as we would run soooo many of these simulations (that would see millions of years simulated in a fraction of a second), that it would be highly unlikely that we are the first intelligence to have made such a simulation.

Complex, but very very plausible. Certainly more so than an all-knowing omnipotent God that put dinosaur fossils on the earth as a prank to 'test our faith'.
Todieisgain (Real Madrid) 2 years ago
The bible predicted the world was a sphere.... 2000 years before people believed it
Vlad (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Oh I sooo completed your sentence (before I had finished reading it) to "The bible predicted the world was a sphere.... Before IT WAS A sphere". That would be something
Hill (Arsenal) 2 years ago
Actually, they never believed the world was flat. Hardly anyone did. Ah contrare you say, history backs it up, well I challenge you to find books from back then that say "we believe the world is flat. " I believe it was Washington Irving who brought the flat earth myth into popular belief. Before then, it was used by scientists to discredit Christianity
Lee (Kidderminster Harriers) 2 years ago
Oh Look, Some Facts (seems the bible didn't predict it at all)!

The belief that the Earth was flat was almost universal until about the 4th century BC, when the Ancient Greek scientists and philosophers proposed the idea that the Earth was a sphere, or at least rounded in shape. Aristotle was one of the first thinkers to provide evidence of a spherical Earth in 330 BC. By the early Middle Ages, it was widespread knowledge throughout Europe that the Earth was a sphere.

However, throughout history, many intellectuals and individuals continued to support the notion of a flat Earth. Modern hypotheses supporting a flat Earth originated with English inventor Samuel Rowbotham (1816-1884). Based on his interpretation of certain biblical passages, Rowbotham published a 16-page pamphlet, which he later expanded into a 430-page book, Earth Not a Globe, expounding his views. According to Rowbotham's system, which he called "Zetetic Astronomy", the earth is a flat disc centered at the North Pole and bounded along its southern edge by a wall of ice (Antarctica), with the sun and moon 3000 miles (4800 km) and the "cosmos" 3100 miles (5000 km) above earth.

"I don't like facts. I find they tend to cloud my judgement" - Stewart Lee
Adamaus (Manchester United) 2 years ago
I'm a believer of God, for those that disagree go and do the ouiji and tell me how that works. And if the ouiji board works from 'spirits' then God, and stuff must exist aswell.

Of course this is not the only reason why I believe but it is a factor
Agspiratos (Panathinaikos Athens) 2 years ago
Ouiji!
Lee (Kidderminster Harriers) 2 years ago
The Ouija board, like most things, can be explained with science. It is the result of collective human energy rather than some greater force at work. Essentially, the glass moves as a result of unconscious thought / energy transference. Bascially, people 'willing' the glass to move in a certain direction through tiny movements influenced by a group mentality.

Derren brown once did a show called Seance, where he conducted real life experiments, and demonstrates once and for all how Psychics, Ouija boards, and Ghosts, can all be explained with science, and simple cold reading techniques.

Part 1 of 6 here if you're really interested.

Derren Brown - Seance Part 1 @ Youtube

Facts FTW!
Adamaus (Manchester United) 2 years ago
Lol strangest answer i've ever got from the ouiji comment. But "collective human energy " :/.
"unconscious thought / energy transference".

You forgot about mind control but maybe nxt time. Jks.

If youve ever done one I doubt that. And if that if true then how come when you ask certain questions about urself, it can sometimes know the answer when none of the people around you know the answer? And you know your not doing it.

Just a question Lee but do you believe that we are just apart of a cycle? There is nothing greater? That we are here because of evolution and the journey of life? You don't believe in anything! Extra ordinary?
Adamaus (Manchester United) 2 years ago
Btw that video watch about 9:00 min when she is asked if she touched it. You can see her trying not to smile. She was lieing. But yea I'm not saying everything like that is true, ofcourse a ton of it is bullshit. I don't believe 3/4 of those things.

But after doing the ouiji board a few times imo it works
Lee (Kidderminster Harriers) 2 years ago
Yes it did sound a bit star trekky. I was trying to say that it's just basically the people sitting round the table that are making the glass move, and that any spooky things like it answering a question about yourself correctly is basically coincidence, or as a result of the will of others (and yourself), collectively, but unconsciously pushing the glass to a meaningful answer. Anyway if you watched the clips, you now know....

As for believing in anything greater, I won't have the audacity to tell you I know anything of why we're here or what comes after. That's the point - nobody does. I understand why people need to feel comforted in thinking there is meaning to it all, or an afterlife, but in all likeliness, this is all it is, just one take, before becoming part of the food chain like every other living thing on the planet.

I don't believe in heaven or hell, it's a man-made concept and if there is a truly higher power out there, people wouldn't be punished simply for not following whatever happens to be the 'right' religion. Every religion is based on a set of outmoded, weird and conflicting rules that were ultimately written and interpreted by fallible men.

I'll stick to the things we know are fact, we are born, we live, we die. Somewhere in the middle we have the opportunity to try our best to make sense of it all, and enrich and make better the lives of those around us. To quote Belinda Carlisle, - "Heaven is a place on earth". If you spend all your life worrying about what happens afterwards, or what life is supposed to be about, you may just end up missing it.

Now if you don't mind, I need to go fetch my sick bucket, and light some more incense.



   
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